Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[velociraptor13]

Yes, only in HID


Ensure that the coil rewinding guy should have something in his head. Take it to a competent auto electrical guy & get the rewinding done. Hope you know the process.


All 3 are good. There's a 60/55 that is available for cars these days, not sure if its called Philips Xtreme H4. Costs about Rs 800-1000 for a pair & throws almost white light. In this case, you can opt to change the holders to ceramic which sustains hear very well.


Why would one want to change the motorcycle to DC for 60/55? This is done only when the headlights are to be changed for HID/BiXenons. For a regular 60/55, coil rewinding & changing RR unit will sufficient.

Well,what other part runs on Ac apart from the headlights and console lights?I was saying this for ape specific RR.

[aargee]

Well,what other part runs on Ac apart from the headlights and console lights?I was saying this for ape specific RR.

From my understanding APE's RR is used mainly for HID setup. Is there something wrong?

I know except headlights & a single filament on tail lamp runs on A/C. But my point is, unless one is changing to HID, why should one unnecessarily change the complete motorcycle to DC setup that too for a 60/55?

[abhijeet080808]

Why would one want to change the motorcycle to DC for 60/55? This is done only when the headlights are to be changed for HID/BiXenons. For a regular 60/55, coil rewinding & changing RR unit will sufficient.

From my understanding APE's RR is used mainly for HID setup. Is there something wrong?

I know except headlights & a single filament on tail lamp runs on A/C. But my point is, unless one is changing to HID, why should one unnecessarily change the complete motorcycle to DC setup that too for a 60/55?

Actually rewinding + RR unit change is enough to convert a motorcycle to DC. Only thing is what RR unit to use and how the rewinding is done - it is much better to get it done for DC instead of AC.

[NANOtechnology]

he he
even i want a more powerful setup.
planning to change my current setup and put something different.
suggestions please !!

[vineeth aredath]

Hi all, am a silent reader of this thread and now am in need of some help. Am planning to install P220 projector and ellipsoid headlamp in my zma, and i would like to know the possibilities of installing two P220's Headlights(2 ellipsoid for high beam and 2 projector with HID for low beam) in a single unit of zma as shown in the figure.

*is it possible to install them as in (2), if so, what are the other necessary changes which am suppose to do(coil rewinding??).
*i think the first mod is possible but i prefer the second one.

Am using Osram NB with relay but am not happy with this setup especially in highway, apart from this my reflector unit got burnt because of Philips 110/130 WATS bulb which i was using before. So if i need a better output from NB, i have to change ma head light unit, instead of that am thinking about some mods in the current headlight unit itself.

Gurus please shed some light in this,

Thanks in advance

[navnish]

Hi all, am a silent reader of this thread and now am in need of some help. Am planning to install P220 projector and ellipsoid headlamp in my zma, and i would like to know the possibilities of installing two P220's Headlights(2 ellipsoid for high beam and 2 projector with HID for low beam) in a single unit of zma as shown in the figure.

*is it possible to install them as in (2), if so, what are the other necessary changes which am suppose to do(coil rewinding??).
*i think the first mod is possible but i prefer the second one.

Am using Osram NB with relay but am not happy with this setup especially in highway, apart from this my reflector unit got burnt because of Philips 110/130 WATS bulb which i was using before. So if i need a better output from NB, i have to change ma head light unit, instead of that am thinking about some mods in the current headlight unit itself.

Gurus please shed some light in this,

Thanks in advance

instead of spending so much in doing the mod . go for a 40w h4 bixenon hid you will be very happy with the light output trust me on this

[vineeth aredath]

instead of spending so much in doing the mod . go for a 40w h4 bixenon hid you will be very happy with the light output trust me on this

hey Navnish bro thanks for the reply actually i saw your previous post about the same bulb and was about pm you, is that bulb available in h7 holder. I know h7 will come with single beam but if that 40w bulb is available in h7.....,

Am not interested in fixing an hid with out a projector. The main reson is cops, i've few friends as victims and i don't wanna repeat the same. But if i fail to fix 2 p220's head light assay, i may go to the first type as mentioned in the earlier post where i can try a bixenon projector with 40w h4 HID bulb as mentioned by you.

Another thing is that my headlight unit is not in a good shape now, and if am going for a direct hid fix, i may have to change the head light assay, its partially burnt now.

Before trying to source scrap p220 headlight units, i just wanna know the possibilities of above mentioned mod
thank you

[NANOtechnology]

@ vineeth

buddy, the idea is great, but a personal experience tells me that its almost impossible to attach 3 or maybe 4 projectors inside the unit without designing brackets.
there won't be space to attach more than 2, with or without brackets so i believe it can't be achieved in an easy manner.
Secondly if you go ahead and even design brackets to accomodate all these make very very sure that you have leveling option for each and every unit, besides you'll have to keep water and dust away too which is very very difficult with brackets.

first and the foremost thing is that DON'T even think of putting up a movable bulb inside stock reflector..
there's a ZMR under my building with 6000k hid in stock reflector, its not even HALF as bright as my current setup.
secondly the Glares will be too much.

go for a projector for low beam and a reflector for high beam, BOTH WITH HID, its the most powerful setup.
the lucky thing is that your bike's stator can easily power a 100w bulb so there won't be any battery issue.

for now the best option i can give you is go to a junkyard, grab a p220's headlamp assembly (only the black thing with projector and reflector and its attachment without the glass), and simply try to fix it inside cutting the back portion of your current reflector.
what you will get is as follows :-

• oem leveling
• perfect positioning of both the beams
• projector for low and reflector for high
• will look very decent too (compared to what you are planning to)

besides you only have to accommodate it using clamps and fuse it completely with oodles of silicon jel to make it all 1 piece...
40w hid in both of them and both of them ON on high beam will outrun any car headlamp without any doubts.

try this for now, if in case you are not happy with the brightness you can change it later, and 2 hid kits will be much cheaper than 4 which you are planning to buy...

i hope this helps....

@ navnish

bro please upload pics of 40w stuff man, i have my eyes on them...
and it would be good if you put a comparison between the 2 using pics...

[Shreeni0403]

For using HID on Unicorn, rewinding is not really necessary until and unless you ride for more than 3 hours daily in bumper to bumper traffic. If the battery is healthy then only RR swap to APE's should do the job.

For 55/60w, DC conversion is not mandatory but no harm doing bcz u will get flicker free light. But here rewinding is mandatory

[Shreeni0403]

Just getting another opinion! I think you are correct, with both lights on and the radiator running, the horn sounds weak with the engine off. This bike has very tight margin to play around.

But then I wanted 2 HIDs on low beam too! Too much kya?

Nah , I would say you are trying to compete with Dr
Dude in that case use dual tube HID's

@Dr. - I wanted the link of photos where u ve posted the clamps to mount Pulsar Headlight assembly on you Scorpio. Plz help

first and the foremost thing is that DON'T even think of putting up a movable bulb inside stock reflector..
there's a ZMR under my building with 6000k hid in stock reflector, its not even HALF as bright as my current setup.
secondly the Glares will be too much.

Completely agree. ZMR's reflector spreads too much. Good/Excellent for low beam but on high beam it loses lot of light as its spreading there also. I seriously feel Unicorn's reflector was way better than the ZMA/ZMR's reflector in terms of spread and narrow beam capability.

[ppkreddy]

Honda Unicorn headlights change

Thank you all for your suggestions

[sajjt]

Hi all, am a silent reader of this thread and now am in need of some help. Am planning to install P220 projector and ellipsoid headlamp in my zma, and i would like to know the possibilities of installing two P220's Headlights(2 ellipsoid for high beam and 2 projector with HID for low beam) in a single unit of zma as shown in the figure.

*is it possible to install them as in (2), if so, what are the other necessary changes which am suppose to do(coil rewinding??).
*i think the first mod is possible but i prefer the second one.

Am using Osram NB with relay but am not happy with this setup especially in highway, apart from this my reflector unit got burnt because of Philips 110/130 WATS bulb which i was using before. So if i need a better output from NB, i have to change ma head light unit, instead of that am thinking about some mods in the current headlight unit itself.

Gurus please shed some light in this,

Thanks in advance

@Vineet,

I would go with Nano, twin beam will be a nice balanced setup than a quad lighting. 4 Lights will be almost impossible like Nano said bcz of the space constraints. But who knows its possible When Nano was giving the details, we were all against this twin pods within the pods bcz of the space issue, but he proved that we all were wrong in that. A quad may be an over load on the battery too.

[NANOtechnology]

@Vineet,

I would go with Nano, twin beam will be a nice balanced setup than a quad lighting. 4 Lights will be almost impossible like Nano said bcz of the space constraints. But who knows its possible When Nano was giving the details, we were all against this twin pods within the pods bcz of the space issue, but he proved that we all were wrong in that. A quad may be an over load on the battery too.

quad won't be unachievable, but the issue would be the brackets, if you design them there's no option of closing the entire thing from behind which will invite dust and water.

the lucky thing again is that he's wanting to do this on a Karizma so has ample of space to hold stuff inside the assembly.

however even i am wanting something more powerful from my headlamps, maybe in a month or two, be surprised again, I'll try to achieve the most powerful headlamp setup even seen on entire xBHP...

[vineeth aredath]

quad won't be unachievable, but the issue would be the brackets, if you design them there's no option of closing the entire thing from behind which will invite dust and water.

the lucky thing again is that he's wanting to do this on a Karizma so has ample of space to hold stuff inside the assembly.

however even i am wanting something more powerful from my headlamps, maybe in a month or two, be surprised again, I'll try to achieve the most powerful headlamp setup even seen on entire xBHP...

thanks nano and sajith bro, so here is ma current plan.

First am gonna source a p220's head lamp unit and will try to fix that(one ellips and one project) first. Later if there is enough space inside for another p220's assay then i'll go for the quad setup. But i think its a bit tricky task which need expert hands.

Before fixing the p220's lamps i'll remove all the reflective materials inside including the one that reflect the pilot lamps, this way i think i can make some more room inside.

[Shreeni0403]

however even i am wanting something more powerful from my headlamps, maybe in a month or two, be surprised again, I'll try to achieve the most powerful headlamp setup even seen on entire xBHP...

Whats cooking sir

thanks nano and sajith bro, so here is ma current plan.

First am gonna source a p220's head lamp unit and will try to fix that(one ellips and one project) first. Later if there is enough space inside for another p220's assay then i'll go for the quad setup. But i think its a bit tricky task which need expert hands.

Before fixing the p220's lamps i'll remove all the reflective materials inside including the one that reflect the pilot lamps, this way i think i can make some more room inside.

IMO, remove the complete reflector and just retain the Glass. Now catch hold of a good aluminum fabricator who can design the outer similar to stock reflector which should have a bracket to hold the projectors and ellipsoidal !!