Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[NANOtechnology]

hey guys am having pulsar 180 ug3. & i have sum query regarding lights so pls help me out..

1. is my bike AC or DC?
2. whats the approximate cost of installing HID on it?
3. will it effect battery of bike?


if u have some suggestions 4 me den also reply guys..

1.
your bike is AC, if its a ug3.
you will have to make it full DC, even to think about HID...

2.
cost of hid depends, if you want just a bulb in stock reflector (which isn't justice for hid's)
or you want projectors or something like that..
projectors will cost more, learn more about this by browsing the forum more precisely.

besides you will have to consider the cost of DC conversion too which will include a new RR unit, coil rewinding, and re-routing of wires to run from battery, and in most of the cases you will also need a new battery...

so basically you need to be healthy with the wallet...
if you want a peace of mind, otherwise you'll be back here in this thread with lot of complains...

3.
it will drain your battery quickly, but if the DC conversion part is correctly done, it won't have any -ve effect on the battery, considering you want 1 hid bulb.

i hope you are more clear, search for other threads and my other posts in UT to get a clearer picture, get the basics cleared first, most of the lighting masters have been tired answering basic questions over and over again....

all the best....

[virdiraman]

1.
your bike is AC, if its a ug3.
you will have to make it full DC, even to think about HID...

2.
cost of hid depends, if you want just a bulb in stock reflector (which isn't justice for hid's)
or you want projectors or something like that..
projectors will cost more, learn more about this by browsing the forum more precisely.

besides you will have to consider the cost of DC conversion too which will include a new RR unit, coil rewinding, and re-routing of wires to run from battery, and in most of the cases you will also need a new battery...

so basically you need to be healthy with the wallet...
if you want a peace of mind, otherwise you'll be back here in this thread with lot of complains...

3.
it will drain your battery quickly, but if the DC conversion part is correctly done, it won't have any -ve effect on the battery, considering you want 1 hid bulb.

i hope you are more clear, search for other threads and my other posts in UT to get a clearer picture, get the basics cleared first, most of the lighting masters have been tired answering basic questions over and over again....

all the best....

thanx for replying.. can u tell me is there any other good option for lights without so much hassle...

[harshitcyborg]

HID Lights for Pulsar 180

I own a pulsar 180[UG3]. For a long time i have been planning to change my headlights to HID system. But there are lots of questions wandering my mind. These are the ones. Please help me out.

1. How much will HID kit cost?
2. How is it gonna affect my battery?
3. Has HID become legal for Bikes?

[Aryan]

Query Merged.

[NANOtechnology]

thanx for replying.. can u tell me is there any other good option for lights without so much hassle...

in my opinion, nothing can beat HIDs.
i use dual Hid's and i can't see anything which can be better than it.
the hassle is there, but its worth every penny...

you can go for 55w halogen bulbs or osram nightbreaker, but still HID will ALWAYS have an upper hand...

[velociraptor13]

in my opinion, nothing can beat HIDs.
i use dual Hid's and i can't see anything which can be better than it.
the hassle is there, but its worth every penny...

you can go for 55w halogen bulbs or osram nightbreaker, but still HID will ALWAYS have an upper hand...

I second that,Hid+projectors will eat away nightbreakers for lunch and dinner
@nano-please post some pics of your current hid set up if possible if you havent.

[NANOtechnology]

I second that,Hid+projectors will eat away nightbreakers for lunch and dinner
@nano-please post some pics of your current hid set up if possible if you havent.

i have posted the pics..
previously i had low beam HID and high beam Halo, these where clicked then...

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/13272-hid-projector-help-41.html#post482454

currently as you have experienced in flesh , i have both low and high beam HID's...
and here are those pics..

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/help-me/13272-hid-projector-help-44.html#post484426

[Deepakumar]

A little help needed.

I have a ZMA-R, stock battery,Osram nightbreaker 60/55w and Dual-horn(stock ones).

Now comming to the problem, when the bike is running with headlights/signals on, when i press the Horn button everything gets dim. i have changed the battery too but still i face the same problem. when the throttle is up to 3000x RPM. then everythings okay. wut els could be the problem. guys please help me out

[sajjt]

Since am also with a HID projector, I would say its the best with twin pods like Nano is using. At the same time we can't ignore higher rated halogens on reflectors. Its the best for a economical light upgrade with less procedures. Just go for a coil rewind on the lighting coils and go for a good branded 55/60W bulb, u r done. If u still need more brightness, change to a round metal reflector (Amby), install relays and go for the 90/100W (more greedy guys can think of 100/130W with a good winded coil) and enjoy the night rides with a commandable/arrogant lighting. I still remember those days where I was equiped with a 90/100W on stock reflectors, with a single flick almost every one will pay back the respect and for careless drivers, just few secs are more than enough to teach them whats the effect of high beam to others But there are morons too who wont understand even if u flash a laser beam towards their eyes. So addicting was the light to make me to replace the domes 3 times just within 5-6 months

Am sure that it will be the best lighting as its the best focused, aligned and legal setup than a HID on a reflector evenif its for High Beam. (Nano count on)

[NANOtechnology]

Since am also with a HID projector, I would say its the best with twin pods like Nano is using. At the same time we can't ignore higher rated halogens on reflectors. Its the best for a economical light upgrade with less procedures. Just go for a coil rewind on the lighting coils and go for a good branded 55/60W bulb, u r done. If u still need more brightness, change to a round metal reflector (Amby), install relays and go for the 90/100W (more greedy guys can think of 100/130W with a good winded coil) and enjoy the night rides with a commandable/arrogant lighting. I still remember those days where I was equiped with a 90/100W on stock reflectors, with a single flick almost every one will pay back the respect and for careless drivers, just few secs are more than enough to teach them whats the effect of high beam to others But there are morons too who wont understand even if u flash a laser beam towards their eyes. So addicting was the light to make me to replace the domes 3 times just within 5-6 months

Am sure that it will be the best lighting as its the best focused, aligned and legal setup than a HID on a reflector evenif its for High Beam. (Nano count on)

agreed sajjt...
but there is a problem to install an amby reflector, we have to get rid of the entire dome...
in pulsar series might be its possible as you guys have a dedicated separate reflector and a separate glass, but as far as our bike domes are concerned installing a round headlamp minuses the looks of the entire bike,
besides comparatively the light to voltage ratio is way too different....

i do agree that it is well focused, and the best part is flashing is also handy, but again, 8+ amps of current pulled at a single flash !!!!

for me, its simple, keep low for low profile, high for high profile, get respect, give respect, and yes, we CAN focus hid's too, if i had a better projector and a slightly better high beam reflector i bet it would have been much better (considering my stuff was bought from junk)...

but again, haven't you shifted to HID even after using 100w ??

if DC conversion needs to be avoided, its good to go for halos, but imagine a bike like karizma, running on round Amby seal-beam, or imagine a FZ with one, or a Fazer !!!

projectors really look attractive, it feels like a celebrity, when everyone at a signal wants to know a thing or two about my headlamps, so apart from STAYING upgraded with technology, you can mess things up INSIDE THE HEADLAMP ASSEMBLY without hampering the looks of the machine too much.....

and remember saj, 2 HID's focusing Together (in my case) are better than a single 100w bulb !!!

[Swas]

anyone, pls suggest me what type of HID should i use in this projector.

[RanjithMN]

tht looks like a H7 itself

[sajjt]

anyone, pls suggest me what type of HID should i use in this projector.

I think its D1S mainly used for Audi/BMW/Merc cars





Swaroop, sorry for making u to wait, I didn't've ur cell no. else I wud've contacted u by now.

[sajjt]

agreed sajjt...
but there is a problem to install an amby reflector, we have to get rid of the entire dome...
in pulsar series might be its possible as you guys have a dedicated separate reflector and a separate glass, but as far as our bike domes are concerned installing a round headlamp minuses the looks of the entire bike,
besides comparatively the light to voltage ratio is way too different....

Very true once u make any alterations to the fairing or anything like that the whole thing transforms into another, some times it turns out to a good looking one but some times its like.... But if something is itching badly, we need to go for some compromises too.

As I said earlier, 100W lighting is so addictive and the stock reflector cant withstand the heat... so decision is urs to go for Amby HL or replace with the stock knowingly it will melt within no time.

i do agree that it is well focused, and the best part is flashing is also handy, but again, 8+ amps of current pulled at a single flash !!!!

No Pain No Gain , Dont worry, ur alternator is capable now

for me, its simple, keep low for low profile, high for high profile, get respect, give respect, and yes, we CAN focus hid's too, if i had a better projector and a slightly better high beam reflector i bet it would have been much better (considering my stuff was bought from junk)...

I agree to this as its the UNIVERSAL rule of thumb

But focusing HID on stock reflectors is a pain believe me, its totally different from a halogen, as the light sources, bulb length filament orientation etc are entirely different.

I would suggest everyone who are going for HID Conversion kits to read this to get an awareness on this.

Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

but again, haven't you shifted to HID even after using 100w ??

Thats very tricky shot but obvious too, how can I resist the temptation and stay away from this magnificient thing

But I must confess that the beam spread is so wide and distant vision is beyond comparison in reflectors. But being a responsible person, we have to be legally clear on our activities and I don't like people cursing me even though am not hearing it for being with a 100W halo which is mercy less in high beams.

and remember saj, 2 HID's focusing Together (in my case) are better than a single 100w bulb !!!

U mean 2 HID is powerful than a 100W halo? Or am I wrong?

[Swas]

@ Sajan chetta, while searching in google, i got a information that D2S bulbs can be used instead of D1S in D1S projector. Just go thru the below link

D1S vs D2S