Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

Hello, Xbhpians... I too own a Pulsar 180 UG 5... blue-black a year old (DOP : 21.10.2012) and it was my dream bike and now I am finally riding my dream... but since a few months like 2-3 mnths, its been creating lot of sounds... After taking it out from the showroom it returned me an average of 45-48 and the pickup was awesome... I even beat a 220 SF with my 180... I also followed the 2500 kms run-in rules... and during run-in once I took my to 95kmph so that the engine doesn't get stuck to single kind of driving... but in feb 2013 it started problems of missing it.. it the engine used to go off even when it was boiling hot... it was missing a lot... so I took it the SC the mech said that the tuning's gone... ( I wondered how)... so he retuned it... the missing problem was gone but since then I badly miss my pickup even after the third service which was done this july its not back... once for one and a half month before the second service I got an avg. of 52 for which I did the tuning myself... but then I opened the AFR a bit so that there's no pressure in the engine and the piston and the bore don't get torn (I read it from website...)... Now the current problems 1. the engine is making literal 'trrrrrr' sound when I go up from 4.5k rpm in an gear or whenever I twist the throttle for overtaking... 2. there's a 'khat khat' sound ,from the clutch side, at each release of the clutch lever and the ride gets jerky and 3. after 3rd service as I go up 4.5k rpm mark there's a constant 'ghnnnn' sound coming from the head area... I have tightened the external nuts on the head (not opened the head yet) but still the sound persists... Its my request to all of you to please tell solutions or some clues as to what is happening to my bike as its been very hard for me to see my bike making such noises... lockhrt999 and others please see... Regards1 khatat each eaeach ea[/MENTION]

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

hi @ yashasvi

saw u on thread after a long time...!!

the issue with my rear brake is, if i give it a medium touch, it doesnt do anything, absolutely no braking..but 1 mm more, and the tyre almost locks up...!!!!!

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@prajwalmd

1)set the afr to 2.5 turns anticlockwise.
2)get the bike serviced in front of ur eyes.
3)change the engine oil to motul 4t 5100 15w50
4)get your front fork oil changed, this might solve the thad thad sound from the head.
5)get the chain lubricated by yamalube/motul chain-spray


u seem to rip the vehicle a lot, avoid that, occasional ripping say once a week or every 300 kms is healthy for the engine.

Hope your problems get solved and you get your REAL p180 back...!!(Even i own the same model and color as yours)

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

@ @Taahir according to me and (probably)others... for smooth acceleration and shifting, it should be done as you're about to reach 4000rpm or at 4000 rpm (3900 to 4000) but for max acceleration you can go a bit up to 4200 I guess (never tried it intentionally)... hope i'm correct... @lockhrt999 sir what do you say...

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@ Taahir
Thanks alot for your reply... and yes this beast in that color looks killer... takes my heart away each time i see it and yes your avatar pic is really hot...
Turning the AFR 2.5 (exact) from the closed position is making my bike run sluggish, really low pickup, vibrations while accelerating and the bike
does'nt go above 65.... and even if it goes its breathless...(even my friend said that owning a same 180 purchased just 6 months back) and even the
RPM meter doesn't remain constant, and the plug was greyish white...
I'd also like mention just after the post I retuned and now its on 4.15 full 360 revs. and 8.3 half revs. which resulted in a constant rpm, smooth
humming and perfect switch start...
i have a question does actually richer tuning give a good pickup...???
yes i get the bike serviced in front of my father's and my eyes... and the same goes for all the vehicles that i own...
i live in lucknow and goto college like 10-15 kms cruising at a max 65kmph but when i go for training a lot of clutch, brake and gear changes and
sometimes a little throttle twisting takes place(i don't think thats ripping)... when i mentioned 52 kmpl avg. it was for all conditions...( i don't know
how)
i dont think fork oil needs a change beacuse the head makes a constant "ghhnnnnnnn" sound and that too when the rpm goes above 4.5 and the
speed is above 57kmph... and the bike is just an year old and run only 6037 kms so fork oil replacement... ???
the "khat khat" sound comes from the clutch plates' side... i'd adjusted the clutch settings (after posting) along with tuning and after that it has gone
away to a large extent... and while tuning i could hear a clicking sound... that may be of the tappets i guess...
sorry for writing such long descriptions... as you said "i want my REAL p180 back" thats what i keep saying to SC mechanics.... and i seriously want it
as i know after how much of a long wait i got it... the day i got it was like nothin in this world could make me happier... (sorry for getting nostalgic...)
and thanks a lot for replying me back...
can the 'trrrr' sound be because of tuning...?? (P.S.: Can anyone tell how to use the "enter key" and the "End Key" in my posts as I am not able to put new line breaks rather they are not working...) and one more thing... till last night my front disc brakes were perfectly fine i.e. were having perfect play and bite BUT today morning when I was returning from my training my disc brakes have lost almost all its bite... the play is the same... but there's almost no braking and I really had to press real hard even going beyond the lever limit to apply since brakes... and since then i'm driving at 45-50 kmph so that I can stop easily and in an emergency... Is it because of oil coz at the parking I saw 2-3 drops of oil on my disc (it might have come that bike repair centre next to parking) and my bad that I even forgot to wipe it... so can a washing of the whole front wheel with soap water and rotating the wheel help as I remember the chemistry's "miscelle formation concept that takes all the dirt and oil" or will I have to take it to the SC for brake pad cleaning... or will it get ok by time... [MENTION=25280]lockhrt999[/MENTION] sir please give some advice...

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

[MENTION=65661]prajwalmd[/MENTION]: I think you have made AFR too lean. Too lean or any type of rich can make engine mis-fire making that khat khat noise when you shift to higher gear. Also making AFR too lean might make engine overheat, yes! more air means more oxygen means more heat. Excess heat will wear out engine parts faster and it's not worth over the average you're getting. And it's also making the performance sluggish. You want a good tune meaning neither lean nor rich for good performance and good average. Before tuning make sure to clean air filter because dusty filter will make rpm to move about even it perfect rpm.

Rich AFR will produce good pickup when engine is hot but it will misfire whenever it gets the chance. Check the tip of spark plug. if it's brownish black, tune is good. Black means it's running rich, brown to white means it's lean.

There's another way to test the engine performance. Pulsar is a 5 second bike. Meaning it can do 0-60 in 5 seconds. Just try to do that on your bike and you don't even need 3rd gear to check that. 1st till 35 and 2nd till 60. Have a go.

New pulsar has engine note similar to splendour. After 3-5k kms they finally start to make rumble like a proper pulsar. There's no going back. Enjoy the Ducati. When I get chance I don't up shift below 7k rpm just to enjoy the sound.

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

Thank you Sir for replying... I've read your points while going through various posts and forums... as of the constant rpm while tuning thing... is it exactly constant or is there a shake of 0-1.5 mm in the needle... and definitely i'll try your 5 second trick... and sir yes what do have to say about the front disc brake thing... Sir I had retuned the engine after the post and it finshed in 8.3 half rotations i.e. 4.15 full revolutions... so should the tuning be correct...???

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

I didn't read about disk brakes.
Yes, that oil is the cause. Look for its source. See if the front suspensions aren't leaking oil. Braking won't get better with time, disk and brake pads are need to be cleaned. Take it to SC or use disk brake cleaning spray.

On ideal machines there shouldn't be any needle rocking. But sometimes you can't help it as our machines aren't computer controlled like newer models.
Whenever I've cleaned carb, nozzles, fuel tank, filter that needle stayed constant for few days.

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

Thanks a lot [MENTION=25280]lockhrt999[/MENTION] sir... i'm sure that there's no oil leakage from any part of the bike... it must have fallen from the mech's hand (oil ke cheetain) near my training centre... surely will follow your advice and post tomorrow... Regards

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

[MENTION=25280]lockhrt999[/MENTION]

sir can we please meet up today evening or next weekend...??

i really want you to take a look at my bike and ride it once, to know if its sluggish or performance is low kind of thing, if so, plz tune the afr for me...it'd b a huge favor...!!

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and also take a look at the spark plugs...!!

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how do i pull the spark plug out???

i pulled the black casing and the spark plug was in that narrow space, could not get the fingers into it to pull it out...

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Recent pic of my p180

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

No problem. I'm afraid I can't tune AFR in a single sitting but I'll tell how to do that.
Getting spark plug out is very simple but it's not as simple as pulling out . Once you take off the black casing, you need to use that box spanner you have got in the tool kit (same box spanner acts as screw driver handle, remembered?) You put that around the spark plug and use another spanner to rotate that box spanner anticlockwise.

P.S. Guys don't call me sir. I might not even be elder than you . When you call me sir I feel I'm still teaching in VIT.

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

[QUOTE=Taahir;1004162]hi @ yashasvi

saw u on thread after a long time...!!

the issue with my rear brake is, if i give it a medium touch, it doesnt do anything, absolutely no braking..but 1 mm more, and the tyre almost locks up...!!!!!
Well I was just little bit busy with my college and all but now i'm gonna be regular.
Well the rear brakes of our bikes are really very bad. Well when my bike completed 10000kms I got new brake shoes, the braking improved, but after some days they were back to its normal self again.
And atleast your tyre locks up when you apply pressure, mine doesn't even do that

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

Can u please PM me your number...i'l call you and then we decide on time and venue...!!

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@yashasvi

that is the reason i am not going to change brakepads. coz if there was a issue with them, the tyre wouldnt lockup, with a little extra pessure....!!

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

Yes, that is right. Somtimes I think of getting rear disk brakes for my bike, but 10,000 rs for 220's disk brake setup are way too much

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

Brembo rear brakes of P220 are worse than our drum brakes. You should try releasing rear brake setting nut by a few turns.

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

lockhrt is going to see my bike today, but it wont be shiny...

I havent even washed her in a month because of submissions....and practicals....

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can we get R15's rear disc brake setup for our bikes...just a thought..coz i really like her braking...!!

Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

i recently bought this bike. i have been limiting my rpm to 4k mark(sometimes 4200 on 5th gear), i have completed 350kms on it. i have two questions,
1. quite often this happens, i m unable to shift from 1st to 2nd, gets stuck for some reason. is it normal?
2. at about 250kms, i went to A.S.C to get my engine oil changed. now he changed it to some moto gold 20w40 without asking me. i read in the owners manual that if i change my oil from bajaj 10000 to some other brand, my bike it out of warranty. should i be worried?