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  • Changed my headlight to 50/55 (Maruti OEM). Lighting has improved. It works well above 2.5-3K RPM.

    P.S. : My auto DC conversion was rectified as i noticed there was a wire cut (Yellow wire,as told by SIBUN) and it was connected to DC supply. There is no change of RPM (symptom of load increase as pointed out by someone here ) when HL are turned ON. Now my only concern left about lighting is FOCUS. I once had an accident,collision with rear of a TATA 207,there were scratches in Front headlight plastic and it was broken from below. I will change it someday but the problem is it caused a bend in the inside rodes that holds the front part and thats why my headlight is not fitting as it used to be earlier. Resulting in a lower reach. Dont know if i will be ever able to get that long reach of my headlight .
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    • Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
      It looks like you've already installed it? If so, what are the results? I mainly changed to DC because I always felt I needed more light when taking turns on the dark highways.
      Yes last night and today early morning I tested it,
      lighting increased, both high and low beam.
      but switching from low to high beam takes about 300ms and its complete dark in that time, flash also have this delay.


      change from 35 to 60W affects battery???
      head lights works on alternator than battery??
      Last edited by abhisheklalnediya; 12-18-2012, 08:34 AM.

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      • Originally posted by abhisheklalnediya View Post
        Yes last night and today early morning I tested it,
        lighting increased, both high and low beam.
        but switching from low to high beam takes about 300ms and its complete dark in that time, flash also have this delay.

        same here,may be an battery upgrade is next

        change from 35 to 60W affects battery???
        head lights works on alternator than battery??
        Headlight works on Altenators. but can always change this if u want to,but not with a tiny 4Ah battery whcih we have in our rides. Better go for 7Ah
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        • Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
          Headlight works on Altenators. but can always change this if u want to,but not with a tiny 4Ah battery whcih we have in our rides. Better go for 7Ah
          if head light works on alternator, then why do we need a better battery?
          also the delay?

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          • Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
            Headlight works on Altenators. but can always change this if u want to,but not with a tiny 4Ah battery whcih we have in our rides. Better go for 7Ah
            whats the avg life of our battery??

            also clutch cable??
            i used to go 300+ rides to rural area of kerala and tamil nadu, its 100100+km on odo should i keep a spare clutch cable during these rides??

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            • Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
              A long screw driver with metal on hand grip end also works great.
              Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post
              @Sibun: My bike is just 5k kms old
              Mostly city riding
              Sane riding....no stunts

              Btw when I lubricate my chain, the sound emitted is more!!! completely confused!!! And the sound while coasting is such that it will make your heart go sad.....like stones are being crushed by the chain-sprocket (at periodic intervals). And obviously, the interval decreases as the speed picks up. And strangely, this was not there ever. Developed very recently about 300 kms back.
              As pinakiji has said go for checking the rear sprocket bearing. If possible go and stand on the head of mechanic at service center as the bike is still under warranty.

              Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
              Does clutch play actually affect mileage? :O The guys at the Hero service center had decreased the clutch play for me, it used to be half clutch as it's called I think. Had read online somewhere that half clutch is bad for the engine so left it at full clutch. But if it increases mileage in anyway, I'll take it! :P

              Here's where I read that Half Clutch is not good for the engine:


              And mileage of 75+, wow! That is fantastic! I'll sit and tune my bike tomorrow and try to get my bike atleast above 45kmpl. It used to give me 48kmpl at one point of time in city, but then dropped to 38-40kmpl odd after I serviced it at the authorized service center once.

              Also, could someone please tell me how could 1/4th of a turn in the AFR screw make so much of a difference? I mean, it's hard to believe that 1/4th of a turn could change mileage by 17kmpl and more! If that's so, my bike has hopes of returning 55kmpl in city still. :P
              Yes, clutch play affects mileage as a tightened clutch will not allow free engagement of clutch and thus increasing clutch plate wear and also low mileage and performance. For extreme/hunk keep 5mm play at the yoke, i.e the gap between clutch yoke and clutch lever. In my joy i keep around 8 mm as my joy gears are butter smooth. But in extreme you have to keep 5 mm. Use a ruler and measure the free play between yoke and clutch lever by pressing and checking the free play. Adjust until you get 5 mm.

              Originally posted by vineeshvv View Post
              @Sibun

              how about using MOBIL 1 0w-40 engine oil in cbz xtreme
              0W 40 has never been recommended in any bikes.
              Why 0W 40 is never recommended in bikes?
              This is what i read in an interview by shell engineers when talking on lubricants for ducati moto gp bikes.
              In cars the engine oil and gear oil are different. So the engine oil lubricates the engine only. So 0W grade is used. But in bikes the gears use the same oil as engine oil. For gears the thicker oil is recommended. But for engines a lighter oil is recommended, so a compromise is reached by using 10W 40 which provides adequate protection to gear box and also easy for engine to circulate.By using 0W 40 you are lubricating the engines but the gears and bearings will squeeze out the oil and thus they will not be lubricated properly. So by using 0W 40, your gearbox will be gone before you even change the bore kit.
              Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
              @Sibun tuned the carb by 1/4th turn anti-clockwise...will post the snap after i ride for some time.



              that grade mobil oil is for car only.



              Please save your money on 300V...i have used that oil for more than 20K kms...its no longer VFM and it wont make your bore last forever like some think here...most shell out money for this 300V thinking it as a investment...i did it to too...my bike ran mostly on 300V only and the bore went bonkers in 35000 kms...i am not saying 300V is a bad oil ...just that if you stick to good SS oil and keep the drain interval at 2.5K you will get the same result more or less ...you will save a lot of money too in the process....heck you can even get a new bore kit installed for the money you save on 300V :P
              Yes, you are correct. There is no additional benefit of using super expensive oil. Just use regular 10W 40 oil and your engine is good to run for ever.


              the tools will cost less than Rs 500...one time investment...it sounds like its tough but its not...i thought like that too...but one time is all it took to make it easy...it took me 2 hrs to clean my chain and do a rear wheel service first..then it became easy .
              We have to start somewhere and this is the first step. When i first started DIY around seven years ago my mechanic helped me a lot and now you see i have opened almost every engines of my friends bikes and overhauled and this Saturday i am going to open my friends alto engine.So make courage and try to do yourself.


              I cant say for sure but i think by my estimate i am getting 66.19/100rs after following sibuns technique...i now give throttle so lightly you can not tell if i am twisting the throttle or not lol...and i keep the speed between 65km/hr -80km/hr.
              I told you so.Previously you would have been opening half accelerator and still traveling at 80 kph and now even with fraction of throttle opening you can achieve the same speed. This is the reason why i get superb mileage even after riding at 80-90 at highway. Also i use a fraction of throttle for maintaining such speeds.Even i have mentioned in splendor thread that in my joy with only half throttle opening i maintain 80-90 easily. The thing is that riding intelligently saves fuel and also increases engine life. I tell every one to ride in similar way and see how smooth the bike feels.Even you can achieve more top speed by this method.The trick is to after full throttle decease it to 75% and then once again twist slowly.Suppose you are stuck at 110 at full throttle then decrease the throttle slowly, you will see that no decrease in speed is observed.Then when speed will decrease after a particular throttle point, now slowly repeat twisting to full. You will see your bike will climb speed slowly.
              Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
              It looks like you've already installed it? If so, what are the results? I mainly changed to DC because I always felt I needed more light when taking turns on the dark highways.


              Also, Sibun, I turned my AFR screw to 1.6 turns. It felt like it lost power somewhere above 70kmph. There seemed to be a flat spot of sorts, the bike hiccuped as if it had run out of fuel. Also, when the engine is not warm enough, opening throttle too fast caused the engine to switch off. I am posting pictures of the spark plug for your reference. The spark plug looks like it's running a little lean, am I right?

              Also, could someone please tell me if something is wrong with my front brake's pistons please?
              Yes, you are running lean. But from the plug it is clear that you are previously running too rich. See the sooty carbon. I am sure your combustion chamber to be full of sooty carbon. What you do is richen the mixture by 0.25 turn i.e. now it is at 1.6 so make it 1.85-1.90. This will sort out all problem. An engine when tuned right will always hiccup before warming up. It is because when engine is cold fuel doesn't atomize properly and thus cannot fire properly. That is the reason why choke is provided. Once the engine warms up then no problem as fuel will atomize properly. If for cold starts you richen the mixture then your bike will run super rich and will cause many problems like excess carbon deposits,spark plug fouling and sorting, dull throttle response and many other problem.From my experience of tuning for almost 6 years if an engine is running rich and you lean the mixture then it will show hiccups and feel like running out of fuel. After 3-4 days every thing is sorted out. It is because the rich mixture would have cause carbon in combustion chamber,plug,exhaust valve, silencer, e.t.c. By running lean for some days, the carbon gets burnt out and your engine will feel free. Just set the tuning to 1.85-1.90 and check. Previously you were running too rich.
              Regarding your pistons it is normal and nothing to worry, one piston will push out before other and the pads stops the piston movement and thus other piston pushes out and both piston press the pad. I told something and you did something. I didn't tell you to open caliper pistons. Instead i told you to open master cylinder piston(located near handle bar). The master cylinder piston is responsible for creating pressure and not the caliper pistons.

              Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
              Changed my headlight to 50/55 (Maruti OEM). Lighting has improved. It works well above 2.5-3K RPM.

              P.S. : My auto DC conversion was rectified as i noticed there was a wire cut (Yellow wire,as told by SIBUN) and it was connected to DC supply. There is no change of RPM (symptom of load increase as pointed out by someone here ) when HL are turned ON. Now my only concern left about lighting is FOCUS. I once had an accident,collision with rear of a TATA 207,there were scratches in Front headlight plastic and it was broken from below. I will change it someday but the problem is it caused a bend in the inside rodes that holds the front part and thats why my headlight is not fitting as it used to be earlier. Resulting in a lower reach. Dont know if i will be ever able to get that long reach of my headlight .
              As i told you yellow wire was cut and nothing to worry. There is nothing that can be solved. Everything has a solution. For that rod go to service center and tell them to change the headlight mounting brackets or what they call headlight stand. It will cost about Rs.220. By changing it your headlight will get the right support and also long reach. Just ask for headlight stands in service center and you will get it.

              Originally posted by abhisheklalnediya View Post
              whats the avg life of our battery??

              also clutch cable??
              i used to go 300+ rides to rural area of kerala and tamil nadu, its 100100+km on odo should i keep a spare clutch cable during these rides??
              Battery life depends on many factors and nothing that can be said how long it will work. I am using amaron battery in my joy and it has been running for 3 years and still is as good as new. For me three years is a running of 90k kms. If you are venturing out to rural areas, no need of keeping clutch cable as the cable takes up too much luggage space. A better alternative is to get a scooter(bajaj) clutch wire(inner wire) will cost about Rs.10 and also a lock nut(Rs.3). It will take almost negligible space and also you can store it in toolbox. when clutch cable snaps, just pull out the inner from outer and insert the scooter inner in the outer of the cable. then use lock nut never the engine and tighten it after adjusting the clutch freeplay. Let a mechanic show you first.
              After you return change to OE cable.
              The advantage is that:-
              1. Takes of much less space(can store it in tool box)
              2. Fits all bikes(Suppose you go with friends. And one of them snaps clutch cable. be it splendor, pulsar,cbz, karizma, or any bike a single wire is enough for any bike). This will work. Let me get a photo and post to make it clear.
              Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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              • Originally posted by [COLOR=#333333
                0W 40 has never been recommended in any bikes. [/COLOR]
                Why 0W 40 is never recommended in bikes?
                This is what i read in an interview by shell engineers when talking on lubricants for ducati moto gp bikes.
                In cars the engine oil and gear oil are different. So the engine oil lubricates the engine only. So 0W grade is used. But in bikes the gears use the same oil as engine oil. For gears the thicker oil is recommended. But for engines a lighter oil is recommended, so a compromise is reached by using 10W 40 which provides adequate protection to gear box and also easy for engine to circulate.By using 0W 40 you are lubricating the engines but the gears and bearings will squeeze out the oil and thus they will not be lubricated properly. So by using 0W 40, your gearbox will be gone before you even change the bore kit.
                i am currently using it the 0W-40 MOBIL1 oil, should i change it immediately to 10W-40 or after some few kilometers ???
                Last edited by vineeshvv; 12-18-2012, 01:16 PM.
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                • Originally posted by sibun View Post
                  Yes, clutch play affects mileage as a tightened clutch will not allow free engagement of clutch and thus increasing clutch plate wear and also low mileage and performance. For extreme/hunk keep 5mm play at the yoke, i.e the gap between clutch yoke and clutch lever. In my joy i keep around 8 mm as my joy gears are butter smooth. But in extreme you have to keep 5 mm. Use a ruler and measure the free play between yoke and clutch lever by pressing and checking the free play. Adjust until you get 5 mm.


                  Yes, you are running lean. But from the plug it is clear that you are previously running too rich. See the sooty carbon. I am sure your combustion chamber to be full of sooty carbon. What you do is richen the mixture by 0.25 turn i.e. now it is at 1.6 so make it 1.85-1.90. This will sort out all problem. An engine when tuned right will always hiccup before warming up. It is because when engine is cold fuel doesn't atomize properly and thus cannot fire properly. That is the reason why choke is provided. Once the engine warms up then no problem as fuel will atomize properly. If for cold starts you richen the mixture then your bike will run super rich and will cause many problems like excess carbon deposits,spark plug fouling and sorting, dull throttle response and many other problem.From my experience of tuning for almost 6 years if an engine is running rich and you lean the mixture then it will show hiccups and feel like running out of fuel. After 3-4 days every thing is sorted out. It is because the rich mixture would have cause carbon in combustion chamber,plug,exhaust valve, silencer, e.t.c. By running lean for some days, the carbon gets burnt out and your engine will feel free. Just set the tuning to 1.85-1.90 and check. Previously you were running too rich.
                  Regarding your pistons it is normal and nothing to worry, one piston will push out before other and the pads stops the piston movement and thus other piston pushes out and both piston press the pad. I told something and you did something. I didn't tell you to open caliper pistons. Instead i told you to open master cylinder piston(located near handle bar). The master cylinder piston is responsible for creating pressure and not the caliper pistons.
                  Ok, I will adjust the clutch free play soon. I have adjusted the AFR again. I shall post a picture of the Spark Plug again tomorrow. Hope it's better this time. But the thing is, the hiccups earlier were not when the engine was cold, the engine would suddenly lose power at around 70kmph after the engine was hot itself.
                  And I misread your earlier post regarding the brakes. But I don't how what is the Master Cylinder Piston now. Either way, I washed the insides of the caliper with petrol. Is that ok? The bite has come back to normal now. And yes, I am very happy with the brakes now.


                  Originally posted by vineeshvv View Post
                  i am currently using it the 0W-40 MOBIL1 oil, should i change it immediately to 10W-40 or after some few kilometers ???
                  I suggest you get the oil changed ASAP.
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                  • Originally posted by vineeshvv View Post
                    i am currently using it the 0W-40 MOBIL1 oil, should i change it immediately to 10W-40 or after some few kilometers ???
                    Run for 2.5k and then change it. No need of so much hurry.
                    Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                    • Guys I did Chain Cleaning and lubricating it..

                      The shopkeeper suggested me castrol GL-4 can...

                      Well Gears have become smooth and chain noise is lower than before...

                      I have encountered a small problem here..after a run of 110km , my Pilot lamps went kaput...

                      Problem is both of them arent working , but rear lights are okay....What should i do now ....???
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                      • Originally posted by abhisheklalnediya View Post
                        if head light works on alternator, then why do we need a better battery?
                        also the delay?
                        In case u decide to go for full/partial DC setup.

                        Originally posted by RohIIT View Post
                        .............
                        I have encountered a small problem here..after a run of 110km , my Pilot lamps went kaput...

                        Problem is both of them arent working , but rear lights are okay....What should i do now ....???
                        Can u explain it further plz. coz there is only 1 bulb in the front parking light while we have a LED cluster in the rear. I guess ur front parking bulb is kaput. To change it u need to open your front viser.

                        Originally posted by sibun View Post
                        Yes, clutch play affects mileage as a tightened clutch will not allow free engagement of clutch and thus increasing clutch plate wear and also low mileage and performance. For extreme/hunk keep 5mm play at the yoke, i.e the gap between clutch yoke and clutch lever. In my joy i keep around 8 mm as my joy gears are butter smooth. But in extreme you have to keep 5 mm. Use a ruler and measure the free play between yoke and clutch lever by pressing and checking the free play. Adjust until you get 5 mm.
                        Sibun sir i have a tight clutch(means gear changes at slight pressing of clutch lever) everyone compalins k "Yaar itna tight mat kar isko". Should i loosen it little bit ? and my bike suffocates at inclined roads with a pillion. It hardly pulls,what might be the reason??

                        As i told you yellow wire was cut and nothing to worry. There is nothing that can be solved. Everything has a solution. For that rod go to service center and tell them to change the headlight mounting brackets or what they call headlight stand. It will cost about Rs.220. By changing it your headlight will get the right support and also long reach. Just ask for headlight stands in service center and you will get it.

                        I have done some jugaads with help of a local mechanic. Earlier there was a HUGE gap between my digital meter and visor ,now its limited upto few mm,i guess light throw should rise. Lets wait for the night.
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                        • Originally posted by sibun View Post
                          Run for 2.5k and then change it. No need of so much hurry.
                          which one to choose

                          SHELL AX7 10W-40
                          MOTUL 5100 15W-50
                          or any other options ???
                          Last edited by vineeshvv; 12-18-2012, 05:35 PM.
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                          • Originally posted by vineeshvv View Post
                            which one to choose

                            SHELL AX7 10W-40
                            MOTUL 5100 15W-50
                            or any other options ???
                            Go for the Shell oil. It's the right grade for our brakes.
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                            • Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
                              Go for the Shell oil. It's the right grade for our brakes.
                              are u using shell ???
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                              • Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post


                                Can u explain it further plz. coz there is only 1 bulb in the front parking light while we have a LED cluster in the rear. I guess ur front parking bulb is kaput. To change it u need to open your front viser.


                                iF THERE IS one bulb in parking lamp then , it has fused..

                                Can the fused bulb be changed locally....

                                I have only a truck repair shop nearby...hope he keeps bulbs too..

                                is it a 5W bulb??
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