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  • Originally posted by sibun View Post
    Do the process as i am telling for best tuning:-
    1. Warm up the engine by 10 min riding.
    2. Then adjust the idling from idling screw to about 2000-2200 rpm and look at the tachometer.
    3. Now adjust the air-fuel mixture screw such that the rpm rises. It may be in clockwise or anti-clockwise direction. See the tachometer and rotate the screw in the direction where the rpm is rising. See where the rpm is at highest by looking at the tachometer. For example if the idling after adjusting the mixture screw is at 3000 rpm and further turning the screw in any direction be it clockwise or anticlockwise is decreasing the rpm then leave it at the position where it is showing the highest and decrease the idling by idling screw to 1100 rpm.
    The 3000 rpm is an example it can be any rpm but start from 2000 rpm.
    Do this process and post the result.
    Remember to set the mixture screw where the idling is highest and in tachometer equipped bikes it is quite easy.
    The theory behind it is that at optimum ratio engine produces maximum power so the idling is highest and at lean or rich mixture the engine looses power.
    Well, I wasn't patient enough to wait for someone to reply. So decided to have a few trial and error runs. I used to turn the AFR screw half rotation and go for a ride and then check on the spark plug. Kept doing this till I was satisfied with the colour of the spark plug. Now I seem to be doing just fine.

    Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post
    Guys, I found a peculiar thing with my Hunk yesterday. In fact I have been observing it since quite a few days. In the morning when I start my bike (cold start), it cranks up to life in just a single press. However, it seemed to me that the idling RPM was too low and the engine would stop anytime, so I turned on the choke. Now, after turning on the choke, the engine simply turned off! I had thought otherwise that turning on the choke would make it idle at a higher RPM.
    Ummm, you need to use the choke BEFORE you start the bike. Or as suggested earlier, atleast after accelerating a bit. In any other circumstance, the bike WILL switch off.

    Originally posted by sibun View Post
    The front disk is of TATA YUKATA make. The fault is not with the disc but with the pad. The new brake shoe/pads that come with hero bikes are asbestos free. The advantage is long lasting but poor braking. You can change the front pads to KBX/ANL(Rs. 140/Rs.179) brand which are asbestos and softer than OE and see how the brake bites. And those with drum brakes at rear use the asbestos model of splendor front drum shoe (Rs.116) instead of asbestos free model(Rs.220) and see the braking of rear drum. Even in brake shoe you can use ANL or ASK shoes of splendor and they perform much better than original.
    Do the above changes and see the difference in braking. You will be surprised by furious bite of brakes.
    Are these straight fits for the front disk of the Hunk? I really would not want to become:
    "Dhobi ka khutta na ghar ka na ghat ka" type.
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    • Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
      Ummm, you need to use the choke BEFORE you start the bike. Or as suggested earlier, atleast after accelerating a bit. In any other circumstance, the bike WILL switch off.
      That is the interesting part with my bike. The bike cold starts without choke. But when I use choke before starting it, it takes 3-4 cranks WITH a little acceleration to start it! And after 3-4 secs of a slight twisted accelerator, the idling becomes stable.

      What do you say about that?
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      • BTW do the rear NISSIN brakes on the Hunk have asbestos pads? Coz the bite is superb in the rear. Any insights?
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        • Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post
          That is the interesting part with my bike. The bike cold starts without choke. But when I use choke before starting it, it takes 3-4 cranks WITH a little acceleration to start it! And after 3-4 secs of a slight twisted accelerator, the idling becomes stable.

          What do you say about that?

          BTW do the rear NISSIN brakes on the Hunk have asbestos pads? Coz the bite is superb in the rear. Any insights?
          For the first bit, I'm kinda stumped. But my bike's idling is not consistent. Keeps varying by around +/-500RPM. Any idea why?

          Also, the second bit, you seemed to have read my mind. I have the EXACT same question.
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          • yesterday in my campus road, i was riding below 35kmph, suddenl a kid from a crowed jumped in to the road, i applied only the rear brake, my hand some how didn't reached the front brake lever. but no use, then i saved that kid by sudden turning. really panic situation

            my point is cbz rear brakes are too poor,
            me too wish to change to asbestos brake pads if possible. are they direct fit?

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            • Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
              For the first bit, I'm kinda stumped. But my bike's idling is not consistent. Keeps varying by around +/-500RPM. Any idea why?

              Also, the second bit, you seemed to have read my mind. I have the EXACT same question.
              During morning cold starts my bike's idling would be around 1000 rpm, then after 5 mins of ride it becomes 1400-1500(to which I've set it). But even at that point it'll be swinging between 1400-1500, which is normal I guess.
              @Ashwin
              the +/-500 rpm difference with your bike is like I mentioned? i.e during cold and hot conditions, if so I believe it is normal.

              @Bloggingwheels
              AFAIK, during cold starts what you have mentioned is quite normal.
              Last edited by SatSon; 05-12-2012, 12:12 AM. Reason: correction

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              • Originally posted by abhisheklalnediya View Post
                yesterday in my campus road, i was riding below 35kmph, suddenl a kid from a crowed jumped in to the road, i applied only the rear brake, my hand some how didn't reached the front brake lever. but no use, then i saved that kid by sudden turning. really panic situation

                my point is cbz rear brakes are too poor,
                me too wish to change to asbestos brake pads if possible. are they direct fit?
                Your braking technique is wrong. You should hold your front brakes for an emergency stop. Hitting only the rear brakes will only cause a lockup and a long skid which barely facilitates slowing down sufficiently enough. Practice "Staged Braking" where you gently increase the pressure on the front brake enough to stop on time also enough to not cause a lockup and eventually a spill. Also, try not holding the clutch while braking, if you notice, letting go of the clutch causes you to slow down that fraction more.

                During single riding, the front brake is much more effective than the rear because a majority of the weight of the bike shifts to the front. That expains why using the front brake is more effective. Whereas with a pillion on, the rear brake also sharpens up because the additional load ensures the tyres stick to the ground and not lift up even slightly. Ride safe.

                If you have the same rear disk assy. as the Hunk, you can try the Rear Pads of the ZMR. Cost a bomb(1k+), but bites exceptionally well.

                Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                During morning cold starts my bike's idling would be around 1000 rpm, then after 5 mins of ride it becomes 1400-1500(to which I've set it). But even at that point it'll be swinging between 1400-1500, which is normal I guess.
                @Ashwin
                the +/-500 rpm difference with your bike is like I mentioned? i.e during cold and hot conditions, if so I believe it is normal.

                @Bloggingwheels
                AFAIK, during cold starts what you have mentioned is quite normal.
                I don't my situation think it's normal. It used to never hover around before. It used to constant with a change of around 100RPM. But now, it seems to vary too much. Or maybe I'm just paranoid.

                +/-500 is a range of 1000RPM! So my bike sometimes hovers between 1500 and close to 700 odd RPM. That is strange right?


                Secondly, with the choke on, a rich mixture is sent to be burnt, how can it require more cranks to start the bike? Shouldn't it theoretically need fewer cranks to start a cold engine with a rich mixture than with an optimum mixture?
                Last edited by ashwin.terminator; 05-12-2012, 11:14 AM.
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                • 39-40 kmpl when doing an average 70+ kmph (65-85), highway, solo, with occasional city traffic.
                  Is this fair..?
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                  • Under cold condition or after rest for greater than 8 hours, a Fuel efficient and lean set engine needs a little bit of choke to start,since the available air/petrol vapour ,inside engine is not enough to start. But when the engine is hot or has some AF charge left inside, applying choke fully will flood the chamber leading to engine switching off...In such cases applying slight amount of choke,moderately,will help..if at all it is needed.
                    Regarding varying RPM.....If the idle RPM varies by more than 200 revs.,when engine is hot, then suspect air leak in inlet due to loose fitting of air hose to carburetor, or holes in it..Otherwise it also indicates too lean a setting and adjusting the AFR screw by Half turn ANTI CLOCKWISE will reduce this .
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                    • Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
                      39-40 kmpl when doing an average 70+ kmph (65-85), highway, solo, with occasional city traffic.
                      Is this fair..?
                      if you r bike has done about 40-50000 kms / 2-3 ys old, the avg is fine.

                      but having said the above, average is dependent on how you ride rather than what you ride :P

                      if you dont change the throttle much, you might get 50 kmph and with constant changes in throttle, it can easily breach south of the 35 mark.

                      I am currently getting 40 kmpl on highways (constant throttle changes). and if i am riding smoothly, i often cross the 50 kmpl mark.
                      during offroading, i have even got 25 kmpl once.
                      just to highlight the engine condition, my bike is 1 lac+ kms old and is asking for a block replacement :P
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                      • Originally posted by ROCKRZ View Post
                        if you r bike has done about 40-50000 kms / 2-3 ys old, the avg is fine.

                        but having said the above, average is dependent on how you ride rather than what you ride :P

                        if you dont change the throttle much, you might get 50 kmph and with constant changes in throttle, it can easily breach south of the 35 mark.

                        I am currently getting 40 kmpl on highways (constant throttle changes). and if i am riding smoothly, i often cross the 50 kmpl mark.
                        during offroading, i have even got 25 kmpl once.
                        just to highlight the engine condition, my bike is 1 lac+ kms old and is asking for a block replacement :P
                        My bike is just 12k and 1.2 yrs old.
                        And yea, I change the throttle a lot. Infact, I never keep it at one point. Keeps twisting - up or down.
                        So my bike is healthy, huh..?
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                        • Aren't you supposed to keep varying the throttle only during your run in. Post that, to maintain a healthy engine speeds should be more or less constant whether high/low. Of 3 bikes (including a scooter - Honda Eterno!) I have seen that the engine performs best if we don't stress it much and that includes gentle twisting the throttle.
                          I have followed it till day and have never suffered from mileage issues and neither issues of speed and performance! I have made it as a thumb rule now.
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                          • Originally posted by psr View Post
                            Regarding varying RPM.....If the idle RPM varies by more than 200 revs.,when engine is hot, then suspect air leak in inlet due to loose fitting of air hose to carburetor, or holes in it..Otherwise it also indicates too lean a setting and adjusting the AFR screw by Half turn ANTI CLOCKWISE will reduce this .
                            Sir, regarding the calibration of analog tachometers on the Hunk/Xtreme, the least count is 250 revs. That is there are 4 graduations between a 1000 RPM. therefore +/- 250 RPM is normal I guess. My bike has done just 1100kms. And it idles at 1000 +250 RPM (between 1000 - 1250 RPM) during cold starts. And idles at 1250 +/-150 RPM when the engine has run for around 10-15 mins. This is quite normal as far as I understand? I have no issues with mileage/power. Therefore what you mentioned for the +/- 200 RPM 'problem', does not seem to be affecting my engine much. Am I right?
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                            • @psr: One more thing sir, regarding what you wrote about the functioning of the choke, the reason of my 'apparent' interesting choke working became quite clear. A valid deduction indeed!
                              My engine easily 'rests' for more than 8 hours; acc to what you've written - I guess, the engine is still hot?
                              The a more valid reason seems to be that the AF charge is still present in the combustion chamber? Are these engine designs such that it keeps some AF charge even after shutting off? Or is it more with new bikes and not present in older bikes? I am 'inspired' to learn these intricate details about bikes. Your insightful informative posts seem to have made me greedy for some more info!
                              Thanks
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                              • Originally posted by psr View Post
                                Regarding varying RPM.....If the idle RPM varies by more than 200 revs.,when engine is hot, then suspect air leak in inlet due to loose fitting of air hose to carburetor, or holes in it..Otherwise it also indicates too lean a setting and adjusting the AFR screw by Half turn ANTI CLOCKWISE will reduce this .

                                Bingo! The spark plug indicated a slightly lean mixture. Half a turn and it seems to have improved. A little bit more of fine tuning is required tomorrow I guess. Thank you!
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