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  • Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
    Pinkai Sir : My main concern is braking bite. Ever since i got my bike,my rear brake was almost useless.Dont know what brand they using in new xtrems for brakes.Front one was GOOD. Just wanted to know whether Non-Asbestos ASK/ANL brakes would increase the bite atleast 30-50% in rear and 20-30% in front(already good).One thing for sure i m not gonna use OEM Brakes for rear atleast.
    For rear go for splendor front brake shoe from ASK and the bite will increase after 200 km and rest assured it will provide more bite than OE shoes.
    For front go for ANL or KBX pads. ANL are best but try to find it as it is difficult to find. ELSE go for KBX pads.ASK pads are good and better than OE.

    To clear confusion the brake shoes are provided to OE from ASK and the front brake pads by ANL. But the quality is inferior as to direct brand because they make to OE specification and at the cost approved by OE in tender. so quality gets hit. But when those companies directly provide spares they provide better quality because they have to share market with OE and even beat them as they have OE tags attached to it. And also the middle men gets decreased and thus cost decreases.
    Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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    • Originally posted by sibun View Post
      For rear go for splendor front brake shoe from ASK and the bite will increase after 200 km and rest assured it will provide more bite than OE shoes.
      I saw one for splendor,but how can i be sure whether its front or rear one

      For front go for ANL or KBX pads. ANL are best but try to find it as it is difficult to find. ELSE go for KBX pads.ASK pads are good and better than OE.

      They told me k KBX are not for hero honda,instead they are for apache or any other bike.are these pads same for most of the bikes i.e. direct fit ?? moreover all these available front pads are Non-asbestos ASK.should i go for it..??

      To clear confusion the brake shoes are provided to OE from ASK and the front brake pads by ANL. But the quality is inferior as to direct brand because they make to OE specification and at the cost approved by OE in tender. so quality gets hit. But when those companies directly provide spares they provide better quality because they have to share market with OE and even beat them as they have OE tags attached to it. And also the middle men gets decreased and thus cost decreases.

      let me use these only available ASK pads in my ride and feel the change.Can switch to any other brand later on if required. 300rs is not a big deal for such a crucial part of our ride.
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      • yeah , got a new rear brake shoe from HH showroom for 120 bucks , hardly done 100 kms and it feels worn out

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        • Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
          yeah , got a new rear brake shoe from HH showroom for 120 bucks , hardly done 100 kms and it feels worn out
          Used Brake shoe?? what made u buy that??
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          • Originally posted by SatSon View Post
            I strongly believe, the Honda engines these days do not last long like those of old Splendors or CBZ's. Even most of the unicorn engines do not last more than 50k. May be we can say it depends on the type of usage.
            But old Splendor's / CD 100s were used by people who even don't know when oil needs to be changed, but they last for nearly 1 lakh kms . And they being lower cc'd bikes, their pistons will revolve more times than that of a 150's revolve for the same kms. But still they run more before they need engine overhaul.
            Here our Xtremes/Hunks are ridden by people among us who are very keen on understanding each of the minor changes in bike and get it serviced, but out engines face early death
            Well said , my kawaski 4s champion is 1994 model completed 2lacs plus kms without engine overhaul , presently its used in our village by my uncle for daily commute to short rides to market. even our village has 1988 HH cd100ss still beaming after lacs of kms (meters consols are puffed long ago) inspite of adulterated fuel available which they further add little kerosene, oil change regular maintainance is unknown routine for them , just washing along side buffallows is maintainanace they know.miss those old days when petrol costed 25/-
            New generations bikes are not bulit to last under so called govt norms and SC people accept it , even riding in uncle mode dosen't gurranty longitivivty inspite of timely services and good fuel we fill in our bikes with expensive SS/ FS oils.

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            • Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post

              let me use these only available ASK pads in my ride and feel the change.Can switch to any other brand later on if required. 300rs is not a big deal for such a crucial part of our ride.
              The splendor front brake shoe is bigger(130 mm) and the rear is smaller(110 mm).

              Originally posted by girimajiananth View Post
              yeah , got a new rear brake shoe from HH showroom for 120 bucks , hardly done 100 kms and it feels worn out
              Check your brake cam situated in the drum panel. Also while fitting the wheel before tightening axle nut rotate the wheel and ask some one to stomp on the brake.The wheel will stop suddenly and without removing pressure from rear brake pedal just tighten the axle nut. This is known as brake centering and without doing it your brake will feel in effective.After doing this go for a ride and feel the difference.
              Originally posted by Vikshe View Post
              Well said , my kawaski 4s champion is 1994 model completed 2lacs plus kms without engine overhaul , presently its used in our village by my uncle for daily commute to short rides to market. even our village has 1988 HH cd100ss still beaming after lacs of kms (meters consols are puffed long ago) inspite of adulterated fuel available which they further add little kerosene, oil change regular maintainance is unknown routine for them , just washing along side buffallows is maintainanace they know.miss those old days when petrol costed 25/-
              New generations bikes are not bulit to last under so called govt norms and SC people accept it , even riding in uncle mode dosen't gurranty longitivivty inspite of timely services and good fuel we fill in our bikes with expensive SS/ FS oils.
              Kawasaki 4s champion was my favorite bike but alas i was quite small when it paved way for boxer. But with the introduction of boxer quality went to drains.
              Do you know a time was there when splendor used to cost Rs. 52000 in orissa. When i bought my joy it cost Rs. 46000 on road in 2001.
              For Rs.46000 what i got:-
              1. No fuel meter
              2. Smaller drums,
              3. No self start,
              4. spoke wheels,
              5. Basic styling and round headlamp
              But what everybody didn't see was that it reeked of quality. Even after 12 years, i remember the day i bought the bike home it smelt like a new bike and i can still remember the smell which i do not find in my extreme when i bought, my fathers 2010 model splendor, my sister 2008 model pleasure and my cousin brothers 2009 model CD deluxe.
              Even today after 12 years and 3.1 lacs km my joy has factory paint and will put showroom display bikes to shame. Just have a look in my signature.
              The thing is that today people search how much more features we get for the money we pay. Even here in xbhp most of the members recommend that a particular bike is value for money. When people seek value for money then automatically quality decreases. My joy after 3.1 lac km still feels young which i cannot say if my extreme will be after even 50k.
              For the knowledge of members i would like to say what are original(came from factory) in my joy even after 3.1 lac km:-
              1. Paint job,
              2. switch gears,wiring, bulbs(yes they are all original and only the head light bulb i changed to halogen), indicators, meters, e.t.c
              3. Mudguards, rims, drums, main stand, e.t.c.
              4. Key set(yes! it is original from factory), back light, headlight, front fork outer covers,e.t.c
              In a nut shell you can say only the engine has been overhauled twice(still it is less for 3.1 lac km),handle racer ball changed only 7 times, brake shoe replaced regularly, tyres and chain sprockets.
              Rest everything is all original even the brake switches are original that came from factory.
              Now i would ask every member do you think that after 12 years and 3.1 lacs km will your bike have everything original like my joy.

              The thing is that costumers have changed. Previously customers didn't buy a vehicle but they bought home a relationship but now they do not care what they buy as after 2-3 years they will dump it.The people have changed. This trend shows in their character also. As todays people are dumping bikes after 3-4 years similarly they keep relations with people if they have any work else they do not have any relation.
              Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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              • Originally posted by ATHUL4R View Post
                my 4th and 5th service i gave my bike to another SVC (old HH DEALER) Ancy motors, Nalanchira , Trivandrum. AT MY 6TH serivce as usual i went there for service and i told that there is vibration and some hard sound from engine evven at low speed and i think its some bearing problem i need to get it ready with my warranty. he said me to start the bike and race the engine and he said its normal. I said what normal even the bike didnt crossed 12k kms or one year. He said he cant do it in warranty and i said i had taken extended warranty. he said thats not useful and cant accept there. after all that i checked my svc book there is no seal. so i asked him about sealing my 2 receipts he said he had no seal. before gaving my bike there i asked him that is it Authorised and can i done my remaining free service there. He said a Big Yes its Authorised.. after i came to know its not authorized and its too late. today i am going to see the Head office guys about my warranty. I dont know they can understand my situation.
                You should've checked the dealership here mate --> http://www.heromotocorp.com/bike-dealer

                I searched for Ancy Motors, couldn't find it. Actually, what all changes they did? If they were minor, you don't even need to contact as one of my fren's Passion was serviced without checking the seals and stuff of the earlier services. To be on a safer side, you could definitely ask them out but I dont think there's anything to worry

                Get hold of a better service centre and you should be good.

                I changed mine to a better place and the roughness has vanished completely. I am not very motor-literate but he did some stuff near the battery on the right-side of bike.

                My Bike Details as of now:

                Running: 5345 KM
                Mileage: 45-50 KM/l
                Issues faced till now: Engine screaming at speeds of 45-50, fixed at fourth service and Front Disc Pads replaced as the earlier ones were worn out

                Guys any one have any suggestions for what type of oil i can use for bolts and joints near gear changing lever. Can I use the machine-oil used in stitching machines (My mom's box has it) or petrol or is there any specific type of oil I should use. Offlate I see slight rust on bolts connecting the brake and clutch levers as well as the gear changing lever.
                Last edited by mastiworld; 09-08-2012, 08:53 PM.

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                • Originally posted by karthikbenz View Post
                  Hi fellow bikers,

                  Even I feel that the refinement is an issue with CBZ Xtreme(mine is a latest Oct 2011 version). I consulted my mechanic which he told that it is an issue with CBZ Xtreme. When I complained about the same to SVC guys each time during the free services, they would tighten the engine mounting bolts which did no good and the issue is still existing. They admitted that it is the characteristic of this bike and no other HH bikes have this vibration problem.

                  The harshness of CBZ Xtreme is such that the we feel like the engine is crying out of breath once we cross 60 KMPH in the top gear. The bike feels good below 50 KMPH - 55 KMPH but becomes harsh when crosses 60 KMPH. I really doubt how the same engine (slightly de-tuned) when put in Unicorn behave more refined and in a flawless manner. I would rate pulsars to be better than CBZ Xtreme in this aspect.

                  Now I have crossed 12K KMS, I stopped complaining SVC guys about the engine harshness and I am trying to get myselves used to those vibrations which I find very hard even now.

                  My normal cruising speed is between 60 - 75 KMPH, which is Xtreme's peak vibrating range and is irritating me each time I ride this bike. I used to love the breezy ride in my previous bike R15 in 6th gear in that speed range which I had for 3.5 years and crossed 50K Kms on the odo. I had never felt any such vibrations in R15. But lately R15 started giving electrical problems which could not be resolved by Yamaha SVC's even after shelling around 15K........this made me to sell off that bike (in an angry mood against Yamaha ) and I decided to not to buy Yamaha again (which I am regretting now that I should have waited a lil more to solve that problem )and came to HH-CBZ which I thought would be a good option with less maintenance. But I agree that the maintenance is a lot cheaper when compared to my previous bike which is the only reason I am consoling my selves.

                  After shelling 74 K for this bike, it is a bad idea to sell this bike now and I have decided to get used to the engine harshness till at least for two years after which I would look for a better option.

                  And to all guys who are planning to buy this bike, try to take the test ride which I was refused by the SVC when I bought last year (HH Nagappa Auto , Chennai). I think they are giving test rides for all the bikes now and if they don't give, tell them that u won't buy. After all its our hard earned money and don't get fooled by the brand name. Test ride at all the speed ranges and check whether it suits your riding style and if it suits you can very well buy. The mileage is between 38 - 45 KMPL depending upon your riding style.

                  Hope it throws some light on the negative side of this bike. For those whom the vibrations do not matter much I think this is a good VFM bike.
                  My old bore that came from the factory felt the same below 60km/hr it was like unicorn engine but after 60Km/r upto 75Km/hr and the bike used to vibrate but not like you say but yes i can feel the vibration in the foot pegs and handle bar - one reason i turned to wasteful synthetic oil in the first place but after crossing the 75Km/hr mark it was again like unicorn engine .

                  Now i am on my new bore and from the moment i first opened the throttle in the SC - i knew it was diff. - there is a huge diff. between this new bore and the one that came from the factory - the new bore feels SO free and smooth - now after completing 900Kms i am starting doubt if my old bore
                  had some kinda manufacturing defect .

                  @sibun i didnt do the axle bolt tightening with the brake lever pressed routine - and i was wondering why my rear braking is suddenly not upto the mark -so thanks for clearing that up will do it tomorrow
                  Last edited by sarbanoxley; 09-08-2012, 08:59 PM.
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                  • Originally posted by ekm-biker View Post


                    HH oil of BP Stays For 300 To 400 Kms.
                    ,, ,, Of Idemnitsu Stays For 400 to 500kms.

                    Gulf Pride 20 w-40 Stays For 500 To 600kms

                    Castrol activ 20w 40 Stays for 750 kms.
                    Yamaha lube 20 w 40 stays for 500 to 600kms.
                    Shell Semi synthetic Stays for 800 to1000 kms. I am writing this from my experience.Normal Use At around 50 kms /hr and short trips,these same oils stay for above 2000 kms.
                    So to sum up Be judicious and change oil when ever NEEDED.
                    Correct me if i am wrong wont the bumper to bumper traffic put more strain on the engine oil than on the highway where you are maintaining more or less constant speed for a long time with little or no gear changes .

                    I am hearing about this shell oil a lot - any good alternatives in the same grade 10W 40 ?
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                    • i am having a very strange problem with my cbz xtreme(odo 6k)
                      every morning i start my byk n ride it runs very smoothly...however after 2-3 km of ride it becomes sluggish ...it doesnt revv freely
                      n again if byk is not driven for 5-6 hours n then started it revs freely again for next 2-3 km n after that becomes sluggish

                      P.S: if bike is given rest for 4-5 hours n started then it revvs freely for 2-3 km n then becomes very sluggish..

                      whats the problem with it???
                      guys i seriously need ur advice

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                      • Originally posted by cbz_edge View Post
                        i am having a very strange problem with my cbz xtreme(odo 6k)
                        every morning i start my byk n ride it runs very smoothly...however after 2-3 km of ride it becomes sluggish ...it doesnt revv freely
                        n again if byk is not driven for 5-6 hours n then started it revs freely again for next 2-3 km n after that becomes sluggish

                        P.S: if bike is given rest for 4-5 hours n started then it revvs freely for 2-3 km n then becomes very sluggish..

                        whats the problem with it???
                        guys i seriously need ur advice
                        Sluggish means? The engine feels low-powered and doesnt yield better acceleration or it becomes harsh.

                        I am no technical guy but are you revving the bike slowly with proper gear shifts. Here is the proper shifting pattern I read from other threads and posts for our extreme.

                        0-10 : 1st gear
                        10-20 - 2nd gear
                        20-30 - 3rd gear
                        30-40 - 4th gear
                        40-upto the limit - 5th gear

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                        • Originally posted by cbz_edge View Post
                          i am having a very strange problem with my cbz xtreme(odo 6k)
                          every morning i start my byk n ride it runs very smoothly...however after 2-3 km of ride it becomes sluggish ...it doesnt revv freely
                          n again if byk is not driven for 5-6 hours n then started it revs freely again for next 2-3 km n after that becomes sluggish

                          What oil r u using and when did u change it last time?? next time go for 10W30 or 10W30 from gulf or motul.
                          Originally posted by mastiworld View Post
                          Sluggish means? The engine feels low-powered and doesnt yield better acceleration or it becomes harsh.

                          I am no technical guy but are you revving the bike slowly with proper gear shifts. Here is the proper shifting pattern I read from other threads and posts for our extreme.

                          0-10 : 1st gear
                          10-20 - 2nd gear
                          20-30 - 3rd gear
                          30-40 - 4th gear
                          40-upto the limit - 5th gear
                          Where were u guys,its good 2 c u again after almost an year!!!
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                          • Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
                            Where were u guys,its good 2 c u again after almost an year!!!
                            Nice to see you too after so long . How is your beast doing?

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                            • Originally posted by mastiworld View Post
                              Nice to see you too after so long . How is your beast doing?

                              its 1 yr /12.7K old. needs some change of parts. i was not away,u can see me here once in a while :P
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                              • Originally posted by karthikbenz View Post
                                Hi fellow bikers,

                                Even I feel that the refinement is an issue with CBZ Xtreme(mine is a latest Oct 2011 version). I consulted my mechanic which he told that it is an issue with CBZ Xtreme. When I complained about the same to SVC guys each time during the free services, they would tighten the engine mounting bolts which did no good and the issue is still existing. They admitted that it is the characteristic of this bike and no other HH bikes have this vibration problem.

                                The harshness of CBZ Xtreme is such that the we feel like the engine is crying out of breath once we cross 60 KMPH in the top gear. The bike feels good below 50 KMPH - 55 KMPH but becomes harsh when crosses 60 KMPH. I really doubt how the same engine (slightly de-tuned) when put in Unicorn behave more refined and in a flawless manner. I would rate pulsars to be better than CBZ Xtreme in this aspect.

                                Now I have crossed 12K KMS, I stopped complaining SVC guys about the engine harshness and I am trying to get myselves used to those vibrations which I find very hard even now.

                                My normal cruising speed is between 60 - 75 KMPH, which is Xtreme's peak vibrating range and is irritating me each time I ride this bike. I used to love the breezy ride in my previous bike R15 in 6th gear in that speed range which I had for 3.5 years and crossed 50K Kms on the odo. I had never felt any such vibrations in R15. But lately R15 started giving electrical problems which could not be resolved by Yamaha SVC's even after shelling around 15K........this made me to sell off that bike (in an angry mood against Yamaha ) and I decided to not to buy Yamaha again (which I am regretting now that I should have waited a lil more to solve that problem )and came to HH-CBZ which I thought would be a good option with less maintenance. But I agree that the maintenance is a lot cheaper when compared to my previous bike which is the only reason I am consoling my selves.

                                After shelling 74 K for this bike, it is a bad idea to sell this bike now and I have decided to get used to the engine harshness till at least for two years after which I would look for a better option.

                                And to all guys who are planning to buy this bike, try to take the test ride which I was refused by the SVC when I bought last year (HH Nagappa Auto , Chennai). I think they are giving test rides for all the bikes now and if they don't give, tell them that u won't buy. After all its our hard earned money and don't get fooled by the brand name. Test ride at all the speed ranges and check whether it suits your riding style and if it suits you can very well buy. The mileage is between 38 - 45 KMPL depending upon your riding style.

                                Hope it throws some light on the negative side of this bike. For those whom the vibrations do not matter much I think this is a good VFM bike.
                                Refinement an issue with the xtreme? Are we talking about the classic cbz here? No sir, you definitely need to tend to your bike.
                                It's not in the best of its health.

                                Kindly do the following:-
                                1. Check/replace the engine oil.
                                2. Check/replace the air filter.
                                3. Maintain proper tire pressures.
                                4. Get the clutch plates checked.
                                5. Make a habit of idling the bike for 30-40 sec in the mornings.
                                6. Never rip from the word go. Ride in a sedate manner for the first 2-3 kms for the engine oil to reach all parts.
                                7. Never expect that this bike would give you a similar experience as the r15. Sorry for being so blunt, but its a fact.

                                Originally posted by ynkamat View Post
                                Hi All. Had a worst experience with my Xtreme. My bike stopped in between. Had to drag it 5 kms to reach home. Night time had no mechanics around and heavy rains. Couldnt park on the highway. Reason was the water had penetrated in the tank. And start plug was gone. Friends please put a tank cover. And keep a spare start plug with you. Its been around 8 months and I have just run 1800kms. Didnt expect this from a HH bike.
                                1. Check tank cap.
                                2. Check for blockage in water outlet pipe.
                                P.S - All bikes have this mechanism. Water WILL get inside in rains, but if the tank cap is proper and the water outlet/drain pipe isn't blocked, you won't face this problem.
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