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  • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

    Originally posted by muztariq View Post
    Wrong grade of engine oil or very low engine oil level are first on the list.
    Poor oil circulation/Oil pump issue is a serious problem if it is present.
    Dying clutch could be another reason.
    - i used Yamalube SS some 1500-1600 kms before.. i think its 15w50 grade.. and the level is fine. checked just now..
    - will get the other two checked..

    Ride safe and have fun.
    Regards
    Nadeem

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    • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

      Originally posted by muztariq View Post
      Told you!! You just had a lemon. Spark plugs last 50K easily.
      Though, for optimum performance manuals list down suitable replacement frequency.
      Plugs pass a good quality tests before getting release in the market. There can just be a connection issue and rust may have got developed in the connecting wire and the plug may be as good as new. Also, while removing or re-inserting the plug last time, the insulator could have got damaged.. who knows. Its a 170 odd rs equipment. Leave it!.
      Yeah!! The lemon made the trouble look like an apple

      The only thing that took me by surprise is that, just around 500kms back i had checked the condition and posted a pic over here to get other riders review. The plug seemed to be fine. Suddenly the plug went kaput without giving any initial warnings.

      Thanks for the help.

      Cheerz!!
      The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

      Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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      • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

        I edited my post to include one possible reason that it may have got damaged when you put it back... insulators are fragile in nature.

        Happy to help.. Immediately recollected what my mechanic does when I complain of jerks -

        1) Check fuel flow through the knob.
        2) Opens up the spark plug if 1 doesnt solve the problem.
        3) Check carb settings. If 1 and 2 fails.

        On the lighter side, if 1,2,3 fails - he would tell bike baech do! (sell the bike).
        Last edited by muztariq; 08-12-2013, 07:21 PM.

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        • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

          Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
          - i used Yamalube SS some 1500-1600 kms before.. i think its 15w50 grade.. and the level is fine. checked just now..
          - will get the other two checked..
          The oil thay you are using is for R15. FZ requires 20W40 and Yamalube for FZ is Mineral API SL.

          Cheerz!!
          The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

          Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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          • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

            Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
            The oil thay you are using is for R15. FZ requires 20W40 and Yamalube for FZ is Mineral API SL.

            Cheerz!!
            I know that.. But still i used that in the last service.. Wanted slightly longer oil life..
            is there any FS oil in that grade..? Or which should i use..? Any idea

            the bike needs a complete check-up i think.. These little problems are bound to come up with time..

            Ride safe and have fun.
            Regards
            Nadeem

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            • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

              Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
              I know that.. But still i used that in the last service.. Wanted slightly longer oil life..
              is there any FS oil in that grade..? Or which should i use..? Any idea

              the bike needs a complete check-up i think.. These little problems are bound to come up with time..
              Go for motul 300v 10w40. xx before the w won't matter much as it is only the viscosity when the oil is cold. Infact it would be better for cold starts. Get it and you won't regret it.
              The best engine oil imho. Drain intervel should be 5k kms and may be we can stretch it to 6k kms. Although, I used to drain my p200's by 4k. Extra love for the bike and engine.
              Always redlined it like crazy and even after 25k kms the engine did not demand any internal change. Not even the clutch plates. Clocked 138kmph on speedo till the time I sold it.

              Sent from my GT-I9100
              Why 2wheels over 4.....
              Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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              • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                Go for motul 300v 10w40. xx before the w won't matter much as it is only the viscosity when the oil is cold. Infact it would be better for cold starts. Get it and you won't regret it.
                The best engine oil imho. Drain intervel should be 5k kms and may be we can stretch it to 6k kms. Although, I used to drain my p200's by 4k. Extra love for the bike and engine.
                Always redlined it like crazy and even after 25k kms the engine did not demand any internal change. Not even the clutch plates. Clocked 138kmph on speedo till the time I sold it.

                Sent from my GT-I9100
                thanks for the info mate
                will try to source the 300v here..
                till 18k kms, my ride also didn't gave me any probs.. Actually i'm at fault.. I experimented with oils 2 times.. The engine might not be happy due to them..

                Ride safe and have fun.
                Regards
                Nadeem

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                • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                  Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
                  thanks for the info mate
                  will try to source the 300v here..
                  till 18k kms, my ride also didn't gave me any probs.. Actually i'm at fault.. I experimented with oils 2 times.. The engine might not be happy due to them..
                  It may cause clutch slippage...i have experienced the same when i put 10w40w shell ultra for my fzs 2012...however engine will be smooth...

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                  • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                    Originally posted by danantha View Post
                    It may cause clutch slippage...i have experienced the same when i put 10w40w shell ultra for my fzs 2012...however engine will be smooth...

                    Sent from my XT910 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                    Will try it for this time.. Lets see what happens..
                    Some members here are using 300v without any problem.. When i'm trying out different oils, lets also try this one..
                    I was fed up with mineral oil which needs to be changed every now n then..

                    Ride safe and have fun.
                    Regards
                    Nadeem

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                    • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                      Forgive me guys for not responding to your earlier posts.

                      The System G and System 23 has been extensively blabbered in the earlier posts on this thread. So if you riders would be kind enough, a little hard work will yield you results.

                      Regarding the dosage, the same has been mentioned on IFTEX OIL & CHEMICALS LTD.

                      My personal recommendation:

                      * System G: 1ml per 1 ltr of fuel.. Do two tank fulls and ride it till you hit reserve. Repeat the process every 5 - 10k kms.
                      * System 23: 2 - 3ml per ltr of fuel.. Do two tank fulls and ride it till you hit reserve. repeat the process every 5 - 10k kms.

                      NOTE: You might find the spark plug reading will be showing signs of lean tuning while you are using this product. Please don't worry. after the two tank full clean up runs, once you complete 1k kms check the spark plug reading again, it will give you accurate state of health of your engine.

                      I would recommend Motul 300V 15W 50 over 10W 40 FS oil grade. Personally, have tried it for over 15k kms with no issues on the stock bike. One can push it till 5k kms. For budget riders, you may try Motul 7100V single ester FS oil. The service manual mentions 20W 40 recommendation for FZ whereas the workshop manual mentioned 20W 50 as recommended grade. based on my interaction with the SVC and the Yamaha back office either of the grades are fine and are applicable mostly for cities with an average temp zone of 35'C or higher.

                      FS oil not recommended for riders who have less than 500 - 800 kms of running per month.. Rather stick to mineral or SS grade oil. For long distance/highway riders and high mileage turners FS oil makes more sense.. Better protection of engine against high temps and friction on high speed runs and smoother operation as well.

                      Hope this helps..

                      Cheers,
                      A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                      • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                        Hi mates,

                        My monthly running is very low, I ride my fazer for around 250 km per month. But I frequenly ride at high speeds (100 kmph +). So in my case what should be the suitable engine oil (Bike is 10 months and 2400 kms old)?

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                        • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                          Originally posted by Subhradeep View Post
                          Hi mates,

                          My monthly running is very low, I ride my fazer for around 250 km per month. But I frequenly ride at high speeds (100 kmph +). So in my case what should be the suitable engine oil (Bike is 10 months and 2400 kms old)?
                          Get a mineral or ss oil and change it every 1500kms(that would be 6months in your case).
                          Using synthetic would not serve the longevity purpose in your case, although there is no shelf life mentioned but if you plan to use a synthetic oil and change it say every 4k kms, that would be around 16 months.
                          I don't prefer to use old oils, they may break down and won't provide the necessary protection.
                          Mineral oil would be good enough for you provided you monthly running, just ensure to change it every 1500km or so.



                          Sent from my GT-I9100
                          Why 2wheels over 4.....
                          Its because 'Whatever it is, it's better in the wind!'

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                          • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                            Originally posted by Subhradeep View Post
                            Hi mates,

                            My monthly running is very low, I ride my fazer for around 250 km per month. But I frequenly ride at high speeds (100 kmph +). So in my case what should be the suitable engine oil (Bike is 10 months and 2400 kms old)?
                            IMO, stick to mineral oil. It will suit your pocket. How often are the 100+ kmph rides? What is the duration of the speed?

                            Cheerz!!
                            The real beauty lies in throttle's twist!!

                            Headlight can be replaced, Head cannot be. Wear a helmet.

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                            • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                              completed 20,000 kms in 19 months.. She's been a real heart..


                              Ride safe and have fun.
                              Regards
                              Nadeem

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                              • Re: Yamaha FZ-16/ FZ-S

                                Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                                Get a mineral or ss oil and change it every 1500kms(that would be 6months in your case).
                                Using synthetic would not serve the longevity purpose in your case, although there is no shelf life mentioned but if you plan to use a synthetic oil and change it say every 4k kms, that would be around 16 months.
                                I don't prefer to use old oils, they may break down and won't provide the necessary protection.
                                Mineral oil would be good enough for you provided you monthly running, just ensure to change it every 1500km or so.



                                Sent from my GT-I9100
                                Originally posted by devils_friend View Post
                                IMO, stick to mineral oil. It will suit your pocket. How often are the 100+ kmph rides? What is the duration of the speed?

                                Cheerz!!
                                Thanks for the updates, actually I ride only in the weekends (as my office is not situated at my hometown, I stay out of station on the weekdays , and my bike rests on those five days). On every saturday & sunday I take her out to highway and rip her for around 20- 25 km each day. During that sometimes speed goes beyond 110s also.

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