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  • Originally posted by Sunjay Kumar View Post
    thats a big list man
    you didn't get it repaired after those happened
    ya yamaha spares are costly
    hey can you post the pic of the new crash guard on the bike
    Here you go buddy










    As you can see,the bike is filthy..sorry about that
    The SVC guy told me that it protects much better than any other type of guard and proceeded to knock down the test ride Fz that was fitted with it and showed me that it was not scratched.


    Originally posted by RAK View Post



    Thats a big list. Usually when we have a fall we normal break only one side of the fairing. How did you break both side of your fairings?
    I had multiple falls as I was riding for only a couple of months before I got my Fazer..much much better now

    Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post
    Thanks Sunjay Kunar (which one is the family/ given name: the first or the last one?) for the welcome

    I shall post pics of the bike in its new color scheme a.s.a.p.

    Castrol Power1 is fully mineral.

    About this mineral/ synthetic oil question: one main difference is in the film, that is more thyxotropic (= "adhering") with synthetic (hence not dripping when engine is stopped, although actually flowing easier), and immediately lubricating when engine starts. Very good for cold starts. The film is also more difficult to break (mills will simply not cut through the metal with fully synthetic oil), and have lower friction (= less heat, because of their large molecules acting as roller bearing (this is not physically entirely correct), but one has to bear in mind that the film in an engine must NEVER be broken, which would mean catastrophic direct metal to metal contact. What slowly grinds the surfaces during the running-in are the tiny particles of metal, so small that they can break the film, and work as abrasives. The oil itself cannot do any polishing. However, the larger molecule size of synthetic oils (di-esters) cannot carry a large quantity of abrasive particles, and will take too long to do a good polishing. It is then highly preferable to use mineral oils.

    Depending on the engine (the bigger, the longer time it takes), but as well on the stroke (longer stroke= less running-in), and the use during that period (city driving= less distance, because what matters if the number of revolutions the engine has done: more in low gear than in top gear), the running-in time varies greatly.
    Generally speaking: small bike is OK for 100% Synth. after 2 to 3k km, big ones >5k. After the first running in, half Synth. (in fact: 30% max) is OK at some 1k/ 1.5k km.

    Earlier, we had only mineral oil, and they worked all right! Still to be used on old engines. 100% Syn. mosltly keeps the engine cooler, last longer, but only gives a little performance improvement. Synth. oil is basically designed for hard use: high temperatures, immediate power on cold start, high loads during long periods, etc....

    "Still, how much does the bike runs on a liter of petrol" you ask? I think you're nagging me
    I shifted to FS at 1.3k...no problems till now!! *touchwood* And 2.3 lakhs is probably more than the expected price of Fazer 250 here!(If it ever does release)

    Guys I checked the balance of the bike by going to an empty road and leaving the handlebars and the bike always tended to go left..does this mean that the SVC people have not fixed the fork bend??They were telling me that I needed to change the handlebar but I saw no bend on it..distance from tank was the same from both sides..so I decided not to change the handlebar..could that be causing the tilt towards left??Before the bend was "removed" I used to hear a tak sound and feel something clenching(can't explain)from the fork every time I went over a speedbreaker or if there were any undulations on the road..now the tak sound has reduced a lot but is still there and the "clenching" feeling has gone..so not sure what has been done by them.Any help would be appreciated,thanks
    Last edited by rohan_5013; 09-19-2011, 08:11 PM.

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    • Has anybody contacted Joel. I called him about three times today and he is not lifting the phone. Morning he told me he would tell me in the evening about the exhaust. May be he is busy or something but want to know how long it is going to be that I have to wait.
      BreaklessBiker

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      • @lucky luke
        so how long can we store mineral oil like that the thing is that at svc they change even the oil filter at all services and pour only 1L oil
        i asked then to pour 1.2L they told that yamaha dosen't provide it as a can
        so i hav decided to buy a 1L and pour 200ml extra during every service so how long can i store it
        i have fixed in my mind that i will be on mineral atleast till 5k is there any thing wrong with it


        @rohan_5013
        thanks for the pics man
        i suggest you to get the forks checked again tell them that the bikes goin left or get an opinion from another svc first

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        • Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post
          Hi all,


          Reading through the posts (all from India owners, of course), I wonder how many differences there are between the "export" one I have got and the "standard" one for India. What I notice are:
          - both headlights work simultaneously, in both high and low beam. Light is however not that bright, even with both on (compared to the triple halogen on my other bike).
          - not observed on my bike (still running in) but by other FZ owners here, it seems yours have some limits ours don't: ours go up to red zone very easily, even in fifth. I wonder if you may not have some limitation in the CDI, or else...?
          There isnt any restriction AFAIK since i regularly red line in 5th at about 128km/h
          - In the owner's manual, both 20/40 and 20/50 oil viscosity is prescribed (no 10/40), while I understand from all the posts I read here that 10/40 is prescribed in India....!!??!? India is not a specially "cold" country, AFAIK...! Well: I know a bit about lubricants, and this is really very small difference anyway! Still strange.
          True that here its recomened to use 20/40 but i guess newer ones are recommended 20/50 too.
          Not that this would mean any difference in the bike itslef, but in this same owners manual, they recommend not going over 4,,500 rpm for "prolonged operation" for the first 500km, and then not over 6,000 for the next 500, afterwhat the bike "can be operated normally" (and after changing oilf/ filter of course), while many here report staying below 4,000/ 4,500 for the first 1,000 km. Is that what you manual says?
          for us its recommends 4.5k and 6k



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          • Originally posted by RAK View Post



            That was a nasty incident. Glad that you are safe. You should have given that guy & his parents some peace of mind.


            Its easy for you to say but if not for the helmet my brain would be all over the road. At such age the kids should be taught some lesson. Being kind and forgiving dont always work. That is how most of us learned from some of our mistakes at that age, right?
            BreaklessBiker

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            • Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post
              it was a to and fro ride to pune from hyderabad. and my bike is fully stock planning for some joel mods after the reviews....

              went to meet my gf....

              @sunjay: no logs as dont have any pics....
              That is one looong ride for ur gal. u really missed her...ehh

              Ok. jokes apart, tell me how much time did it take travelling one way???

              And which city/town did you halt for the refills?

              Is your bike on the mineral dose or synthetic?

              cheers.

              Originally posted by nand15 View Post
              was the gf the motivation for the ride or was the ride the motivation to see the gf ? .

              P.S : Guys decided to change my engine oil just for peace of mind , Shifting to Motul 300v factory line 15w50 , Got 2L for 800rs each ... MRP was 895rs and the oil filter for 35 bucks ... gonna change it now

              EDIT : Changed oil and the level was about 850ml from the initial 1L that was put in and the 150ml drop caused the dipstick to show minimum ... interesting ... Changed oil and this time changed filter also as it was about 6K kms old . hence needed about 1.1L of oil .
              So you finally changed the cursed black oil..ha

              If your engine's good, i bet it was still viscous...
              So how much oil did you put in finally??

              cheers.

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              • Originally posted by N-o-v-i-c-e View Post
                So you finally changed the cursed black oil..ha

                If your engine's good, i bet it was still viscous...
                So how much oil did you put in finally??

                cheers.
                The bike was starting to misbehave , It started overheating within 2kms and also the roughness was creeping in , so I had enough and changed it ... added in 1.2l since I changed the filter too ...
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                • dont know what happen to my FZ, its just 10months old.
                  today when i was riding it @40kmph suddenly horn went down, speedometer display went down and engine got witched off automatically when i switched off/on my ignition everything was dead self start doesn't work atlast when i pulled my chock and gave a kick it started.

                  im not sure if the battery went down but its just 11months old bike/battery

                  what may the issue with my FZ, plz suggest and help

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                  • Originally posted by jagan View Post
                    dont know what happen to my FZ, its just 10months old.
                    today when i was riding it @40kmph suddenly horn went down, speedometer display went down and engine got witched off automatically when i switched off/on my ignition everything was dead self start doesn't work atlast when i pulled my chock and gave a kick it started.

                    im not sure if the battery went down but its just 11months old bike/battery

                    what may the issue with my FZ, plz suggest and help

                    Maybe the battery is running low on water. Check it out.
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                    • Originally posted by N-o-v-i-c-e View Post
                      That is one looong ride for ur gal. u really missed her...ehh

                      Ok. jokes apart, tell me how much time did it take travelling one way???

                      And which city/town did you halt for the refills?

                      Is your bike on the mineral dose or synthetic?

                      cheers.
                      one way it took me around 12 hours and 30 minutes including butt breaks, breakfast, lunch, refilling time, traffic in the city, jams on the highway and yes of course the all necessary tea breaks....

                      my bike is running on semi synth motul 15W50 the same which is used in r15.

                      halts i took whenever needed.... for fuelling i preferred maharashtra as the petrol is 3 rs cheapen over there....
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                      • Originally posted by jagan View Post
                        dont know what happen to my FZ, its just 10months old.
                        today when i was riding it @40kmph suddenly horn went down, speedometer display went down and engine got witched off automatically when i switched off/on my ignition everything was dead self start doesn't work atlast when i pulled my chock and gave a kick it started.

                        im not sure if the battery went down but its just 11months old bike/battery

                        what may the issue with my FZ, plz suggest and help
                        the battery must have went down nothing to worry my friend take it to svc just a recharge and topup will do the job

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                        • Originally posted by Sunjay Kumar View Post
                          @lucky luke
                          so how long can we store mineral oil like that the thing is that at svc they change even the oil filter at all services and pour only 1L oil
                          i asked then to pour 1.2L they told that yamaha dosen't provide it as a can
                          so i hav decided to buy a 1L and pour 200ml extra during every service so how long can i store it
                          i have fixed in my mind that i will be on mineral atleast till 5k is there any thing wrong with it
                          Hi Sunjay (or should I say: "Hi Kumar"?...which way does it work in India?)

                          You can store mineral oil for years. In the engine, it will oxidize and create tars because it is/ has been heated, not in the can. Only when it starts creating a sticky gel near the top of the can: discard.

                          You can stay on good mineral oils all the life of the bike if you like, although synthetics (double esters) extend engine and gearbox longevity and, as said earlier, also help against bad treatment: cold start, high load on long journeys.... All top mineral oils contain anti-oxidizing agents, detergents, etc.... and their lubricating performance is almost identical to synth. ones. They have to be changed more often, though, to keep those performances, but are less costly. However, to keep synth. for 5k. km as pretended in adverts is plain bad: there will be such an accumulation of particles that it will be damageable to the engine. Oil change intervals are only slightly longer with synth. than w/ minerals. So, the main thing about synth. is that it saves you money in the long run, but costs more per km.

                          When an engine is substantially worn: stick to mineral oil only.
                          Last edited by Lucky Luke; 09-20-2011, 09:23 AM.
                          When I do something stupid, my consolation is to know that I'll do the worse one only once!

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                          • Hey, JAGAN: genuine "Midnight Special" or made to look like ? (just curious)
                            When I do something stupid, my consolation is to know that I'll do the worse one only once!

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                            • Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post
                              Hi Sunjay (or should I say: "Hi Kumar"?...which way does it work in India?)

                              You can store mineral oil for years. In the engine, it will oxidize and create tars because it is/ has been heated, not in the can. Only when it starts creating a sticky gel near the top of the can: discard.

                              You can stay on good mineral oils all the life of the bike if you like, although synthetics (double esters) extend engine and gearbox longevity and, as said earlier, also help against bad treatment: cold start, high load on long journeys.... All top mineral oils contain anti-oxidizing agents, detergents, etc.... and their lubricating performance is almost identical to synth. ones. They have to be changed more often, though, to keep those performances, but are less costly. However, to keep synth. for 5k. km as pretended in adverts is plain bad: there will be such an accumulation of particles that it will be damageable to the engine. Oil change intervals are only slightly longer with synth. than w/ minerals. So, the main thing about synth. is that it saves you money in the long run, but costs more per km.

                              When an engine is substantially worn: stick to mineral oil only.
                              you can call the first name
                              thanks for the info

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                              • Originally posted by HellRa1SeR View Post
                                Maybe the battery is running low on water. Check it out.
                                Originally posted by Sunjay Kumar View Post
                                the battery must have went down nothing to worry my friend take it to svc just a recharge and topup will do the job
                                thanks friends for ur reply.
                                took my bike to service center and they changed the battery fuse and its working fine now

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