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**aargee** · 10-29-2015, 01:41 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Dandamudi Mohan Krishna View Post

Radials make use of belts made of steel which help the tyre to firm and grippy under various conditions wheres as tubeless is just a rubber.

Didn't know steels have better grip than rubber!! Thank you for en lighting us with your knowledge sir!!!

**Jagzxbhp** · 10-29-2015, 01:42 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

I must say Radials are the best tyres I've ridden till now. Tube tires are jumpy in high speeds but comfortable in pot holes, Radials are best for high speed driving, but less comfortable in bad roads. One can ride on a 140/60 radial all day long.

**Dandamudi Mohan Krishna** · 10-29-2015, 01:49 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Didn't know steels have better grip than rubber!! Thank you for en lighting us with your knowledge sir!!!

My be I'm reading wrong or you typed wrong Steel doesn't give the grip the radial has inlay of steel inside the rubber i.e there's a layer of steel that makes the shapes of the tyre on top of that there's rubber and in tubeless that steel layer will be missing. Obviously you feel difference and thus radials feel better compared to tubeless.

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Originally posted by Jagzxbhp View Post

I must say Radials are the best tyres I've ridden till now. Tube tires are jumpy in high speeds but comfortable in pot holes, Radials are best for high speed driving, but less comfortable in bad roads. One can ride on a 140/60 radial all day long.

How's the grip of radials in rain any ? because I don't want slippery tyre in front but back is somewhat manageable (I'm not really an expert driver).

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Originally posted by Jagzxbhp View Post

I must say Radials are the best tyres I've ridden till now. Tube tires are jumpy in high speeds but comfortable in pot holes, Radials are best for high speed driving, but less comfortable in bad roads. One can ride on a 140/60 radial all day long.

How's the grip of radials in rain any ? because I don't want slippery tyre in front but back is somewhat manageable (I'm not really an expert driver).

**aargee** · 10-29-2015, 08:26 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Dandamudi Mohan Krishna View Post

My be I'm reading wrong or you typed wrong Steel doesn't give the grip the radial has inlay of steel inside the rubber i.e there's a layer of steel that makes the shapes of the tyre on top of that there's rubber and in tubeless that steel layer will be missing. Obviously you feel difference and thus radials feel better compared to tubeless

Thank you sir!! Helped me understand everything!!

**Jon Niranjan Paul** · 10-29-2015, 09:28 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Jagzxbhp View Post

What's the difference in tubeless and radial?? Aren't the tubeless radial only?? Ie tubeless tyres are very strong, and strength comes from radial ply only, bias ply are for tube tires, so are Michelin's manufacturing both radial tubeless and bias ply tubeless??

Well, just to confirm, did you opt for the Pilot Sporty or the Pilot Street Radial?

What he means is, not the difference between a tubeless and a radial, but the difference between a radial tire and a non-radial tire.

Non radial tires have a much more rounded profile, they are good for long straight runs, but lose confidence whilst cornering, hence the slip. If you did opt for the non radial tire from Michelin, please check if the tire is labeled "Made in India" or "Made in Thailand". I've seen a lot of duplicates in the market that look ditto like the originals, but offer much lesser grip in real live conditions. The Thailand ones offer more grip, i have a pair shod on my bike.

Radial tires have much more of an oval profile, which in turn means, you have more rubber to use whilst cornering. They wear out pretty soon if you just use it for long straight highway runs (depending on the compound), but are brilliant for those ghat runs any day!

IMHO, steel belted radials only help in retaining the shape of the tire, and maybe in averting minor punctures. It has nothing to do with the grip being offered.

So based on your usage, you can opt for a radial or a non radial tire.

**s1d** · 10-29-2015, 10:30 PM

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**Jagzxbhp** · 10-30-2015, 07:53 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Dandamudi Mohan Krishna View Post

My be I'm reading wrong or you typed wrong Steel doesn't give the grip the radial has inlay of steel inside the rubber i.e there's a layer of steel that makes the shapes of the tyre on top of that there's rubber and in tubeless that steel layer will be missing. Obviously you feel difference and thus radials feel better compared to tubeless.

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How's the grip of radials in rain any ? because I don't want slippery tyre in front but back is somewhat manageable (I'm not really an expert driver).

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How's the grip of radials in rain any ? because I don't want slippery tyre in front but back is somewhat manageable (I'm not really an expert driver).

Grip actually depends on compound of tyre, My Gixxer has a MRF Revz M Radial, medium compound, and its pretty good in rainy day, also the tire groove is a major player here in grip department. It just slips in Red Roads, Its best for Highways though (Bitumen roads ) ☺

**Jagzxbhp** · 10-30-2015, 08:01 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post

Well, just to confirm, did you opt for the Pilot Sporty or the Pilot Street Radial?

What he means is, not the difference between a tubeless and a radial, but the difference between a radial tire and a non-radial tire.

Non radial tires have a much more rounded profile, they are good for long straight runs, but lose confidence whilst cornering, hence the slip. If you did opt for the non radial tire from Michelin, please check if the tire is labeled "Made in India" or "Made in Thailand". I've seen a lot of duplicates in the market that look ditto like the originals, but offer much lesser grip in real live conditions. The Thailand ones offer more grip, i have a pair shod on my bike.

Radial tires have much more of an oval profile, which in turn means, you have more rubber to use whilst cornering. They wear out pretty soon if you just use it for long straight highway runs (depending on the compound), but are brilliant for those ghat runs any day!

IMHO, steel belted radials only help in retaining the shape of the tire, and maybe in averting minor punctures. It has nothing to do with the grip being offered.

So based on your usage, you can opt for a radial or a non radial tire.

I haven't opted anyone, but yeah in future wanna try a Michelin Radial. My current is a MRF Revz M 140/60 R17 Gixxer.

**Jon Niranjan Paul** · 10-30-2015, 08:07 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Jagzxbhp View Post

I haven't opted anyone, but yeah in future wanna try a Michelin Radial. My current is a MRF Revz M 140/60 R17 Gixxer.

Gixxer???

If you have the moolah, go for the Michelin Street Radials. It's a good one. Or stick to the MRF's, they're really good for their price.
Make sure to find the "Made in Thailand" label on the tyres though. Do not settle for anything else.

**fertswitch** · 10-30-2015, 09:54 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

So I have this odd problem with the bike which my friend (previous owner) had shown to the service centres and they weren't able to figure out (SURPRISE).

Whenever the bike is started when cold there is this terrible loud rattling noise which seems like it's coming from the silencer area but for some reason I cannot say for sure. Initially it sounds like a rattling silencer cover but when you push around that area everything seems like they are firmly in place. As the bike heats up the sound subsides. One of the mechanics I went to said it could be a loose baffle in the silencer that sticks once hot. Is that a possible cause?

Has anyone else had such a problem?

Thanks!

Oh and I got the MRF Revz-FC tyre on the front and they seem quite great so far.

**ishan2290** · 10-31-2015, 07:13 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Hello guyz. Got my cbr250r abs yesterday. It's a july, 2011 model, done 14,000 kms with one year comprehensive insurance for 1.05 lakh

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**Jon Niranjan Paul** · 10-31-2015, 08:16 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by ishan2290 View Post

Hello guyz. Got my cbr250r abs yesterday. It's a july, 2011 model, done 14,000 kms with one year comprehensive insurance for 1.05 lakh

Welcome to the club! Wishing yu miles n smiles on her! ✌

**aargee** · 10-31-2015, 10:55 AM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by ishan2290 View Post

Hello guyz. Got my cbr250r abs yesterday. It's a july, 2011 model, done 14,000 kms with one year comprehensive insurance for 1.05 lakh

Welcome to the club saar

**krish2778** · 10-31-2015, 03:59 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

So finally, my search for the old hollow type stem nuts have come to an end.
While I was unsuccessful to source it here in Bangalore, or in Kerala, [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION] took the trouble to check it out in TN, and finally it was [MENTION=51754]theironhorse99[/MENTION] who came to the rescue and sourced the part for me.
Thanks a ton mate, you saved me a lot of money , i was very close to source one of those yoshi stem nuts which are costly to say the least.

So once i get these stem nuts installed will be fixing the RAM mount on the bike. Will post detailed pics and procedure for all you guys.

Here are the pics sent to me by Aman, in case anybody is interested.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

**xplod566** · 10-31-2015, 04:58 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

So finally, my search for the old hollow type stem nuts have come to an end.
While I was unsuccessful to source it here in Bangalore, or in Kerala, @B7ACKTHORN took the trouble to check it out in TN, and finally it was @theironhorse99 who came to the rescue and sourced the part for me.
Thanks a ton mate, you saved me a lot of money , i was very close to source one of those yoshi stem nuts which are costly to say the least.

So once i get these stem nuts installed will be fixing the RAM mount on the bike. Will post detailed pics and procedure for all you guys.

Here are the pics sent to me by Aman, in case anybody is interested.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Sorry for the noob question but for what it's this exactly used for

DO NOT quote the entire picture set!

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