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    Hey guys. I got my bike a couple of days ago (posted earlier about it). The problem with my bike is the engine gets off while in motion all of sudden when I pull the clutch lever. And I've got ContiGo tyres on my bike, just recently came back after changing the gas in the tires to nitrogen gas from the normal ones. 400+kms done till now. Not yet confident riding this bike with the tire grip too. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
    Thanks.

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      Just booked the CBR 250 Abs, yet to confirm the color. Confused btwn Repsol Edition & Pearl White color. (Pls help me to decide it.)
      Also they r giving me non BS4 version. I was told that there is no confirmation when they can provide me BS4 ver.
      So should I wait for BS4 ver or should I buy non BS4 ver ??

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
        Thank you, Ram. You are right, it was after the first paint scheme change, though I was a little skeptical on the year as to when it was actually implemented. Appreciate it.



        As a matter of fact, I've had the opportunity to ride a couple of bikes shod with Michelin Pilot Street Radials setup on both the CBR and Duke 390 and I can say that from the short stint I had on the CBR the grip levels were more or less on part with what the Zapper had to offer. Though the stock being bias ply both front and rear for the CBR, the rear MPSR did feel planted for the most part. The front though felt a teeny bit kinda heavy as compared to to Zapper FY on the stock.

        Personally, I've loved the grip offered from both the FY and Zapper S, though they have the tendency to lose grip even on slight lean even when riding upright, when the bike goes over a patch of fine sand or wet leaves and what not. Wet grip isn't that great, unless one doesn't wring the throttle during wets, the MRF is a perfect all rounder. MPSR being dual compound, I think it should resist punctures comparatively well.

        MPSRs are good alternatives when compared to Zapper and Revz, but again it's purely a matter of personal discretion on which tire to choose from.

        Cheers!
        VJ
        I totally agree with​ you.
        Zappers are aweful in mud and slush as i have mentioned in my detailed review here



        Dry grip is good enough when compared to contigos..
        Initially i was inclined towards MPSR for my next change but now i feel revz is more vfm.
        Thanks for your input☺
        Burn the rubber, they said
        it would be fun, they said

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

          As a matter of fact, I've had the opportunity to ride a couple of bikes shod with Michelin Pilot Street Radials setup on both the CBR and Duke 390 and I can say that from the short stint I had on the CBR the grip levels were more or less on part with what the Zapper had to offer. Though the stock being bias ply both front and rear for the CBR, the rear MPSR did feel planted for the most part. The front though felt a teeny bit kinda heavy as compared to to Zapper FY on the stock.

          Personally, I've loved the grip offered from both the FY and Zapper S, though they have the tendency to lose grip even on slight lean even when riding upright, when the bike goes over a patch of fine sand or wet leaves and what not. Wet grip isn't that great, unless one doesn't wring the throttle during wets, the MRF is a perfect all rounder. MPSR being dual compound, I think it should resist punctures comparatively well.

          MPSRs are good alternatives when compared to Zapper and Revz, but again it's purely a matter of personal discretion on which tire to choose from.

          Cheers!
          VJ
          Uhh. One, please explain the bolded parts sir! What does bias ply mean? And by heavy what to you mean, how does it make a difference to handling?

          And lose grip even on slight lean? I did not see that happening on the pair on my bike...
          Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

          Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

          Break-in tension? Read this.

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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by Ave2592 View Post
            Hey guys. I got my bike a couple of days ago (posted earlier about it). The problem with my bike is the engine gets off while in motion all of sudden when I pull the clutch lever. And I've got ContiGo tyres on my bike, just recently came back after changing the gas in the tires to nitrogen gas from the normal ones. 400+kms done till now. Not yet confident riding this bike with the tire grip too. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
            Thanks.
            If you can can, swap the the old Contigos for a new pair of MRFs or MPSRs. Contigos do offer okay-ish grip, but after they are worn, they start acting radically different. If you can remove the stock tires, and try exchanging it with a pair of MPSRs or MRFs you've got yourself a fairly good deal. Check around your area for any tire dealers who would be willing to exchange your bike's tire for a new set of rubber.

            Originally posted by pinkesh2703 View Post
            Just booked the CBR 250 Abs, yet to confirm the color. Confused btwn Repsol Edition & Pearl White color. (Pls help me to decide it.)
            Also they r giving me non BS4 version. I was told that there is no confirmation when they can provide me BS4 ver.
            So should I wait for BS4 ver or should I buy non BS4 ver ??
            Some things are really hard to decide, aren't they, it's like selecting between Jockey or Haynes. BS III can be registered till April, 2017 post which the drama surrounding partial BSIII vehicles should come to an end, meaning all the bikes would be 100% BS IV. Now, the real deal is the ABS norms which are supposed to come into effect in April 1 2018, so I'd suggest you should have trouble deciding ABS or non-ABS

            Cheers!
            VJ
            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
            The girl said, 'NO!'


            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


            THE END

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                Uhh. One, please explain the bolded parts sir! What does bias ply mean? And by heavy what to you mean, how does it make a difference to handling?

                And lose grip even on slight lean? I did not see that happening on the pair on my bike...
                I didn't see your post coming, Madhav. So, to keep it short, bias ply means the entire tire acts as one piece, meaning every bump and every feedback is directly felt by the rider. Bias ply on the contrary have longer life compared to radials. Radials have the side wall and contact patch acting independently, whereas the bias ply are interdependent. Radials can take more corner load as opposed to bias play, and the contact patch is uniform whereas a bias play would start deforming with corner load and lateral movements. In short, radials offer better road grip, stability and offer superior ride quality.

                Now, to your last point regarding grip. The MRF FY and Zapper S setup on the CBRs offer a decent ride quality and offer way better than the Contigos. This combo is really gets it going when the tarmac is dry and the tires are at their optimum temperature, offer excellent dry grip. Throw in water, loose sand and wet leaves et cetera they are very sensitive and lose grip at the slightest instance.

                Now, when I meant lean, when you lean over a small patch of unwarranted sand, wet leaves or the very shiny markers along the roads, the rear tends to lose grip.

                Cheers!
                VJ
                Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 03-21-2017, 12:33 AM.
                Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                The girl said, 'NO!'


                And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                THE END

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by Ave2592 View Post
                  Hey guys. I got my bike a couple of days ago (posted earlier about it). The problem with my bike is the engine gets off while in motion all of sudden when I pull the clutch lever. And I've got ContiGo tyres on my bike, just recently came back after changing the gas in the tires to nitrogen gas from the normal ones. 400+kms done till now. Not yet confident riding this bike with the tire grip too. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
                  Thanks.
                  Ride it often and pile up some more km. Forget when others scare you about tires.. You need to learn to ride properly and put on a few 1000km. A lot of folks sometimes blame the tire for their shortcomings.

                  Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                  Uhh. One, please explain the bolded parts sir! What does bias ply mean? And by heavy what to you mean, how does it make a difference to handling?
                  And lose grip even on slight lean? I did not see that happening on the pair on my bike...
                  If you are happy with the current set of tires, so be it.. don't try to find something wrong with them just for the sake of it
                  Bias-ply vs radial >> Tires differ in the way they are built and each have their own advantages. Price wise, the bias-ply is cheaper and more than 90% of two wheelers here in India run on bias-ply tires (or rather 'normal' tyres since these are not labled 'biasply' like the specific mention of 'radial' in radial tires)
                  If you want to learn more about these types, then do a simple google search.. I am too lazy to explain it here.

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                    If you can can, swap the the old Contigos for a new pair of MRFs or MPSRs. Contigos do offer okay-ish grip, but after they are worn, they start acting radically different. If you can remove the stock tires, and try exchanging it with a pair of MPSRs or MRFs you've got yourself a fairly good deal. Check around your area for any tire dealers who would be willing to exchange your bike's tire for a new set of rubber.
                    Originally posted by s1d View Post
                    Ride it often and pile up some more km. Forget when others scare you about tires.. You need to learn to ride properly and put on a few 1000km. A lot of folks sometimes blame the tire for their shortcomings.
                    Thanks for the help on tires. Any suggestion about engine being turned off while riding?

                    ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                    Also I was thinking to change my headlight to white light. Just wanted to know the side effects of using a 35w on a 60/55w. Will a 35w headlight be supported on a 60/55w system? And do revert for the earlier questionvtoo. Thanks

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by Ave2592 View Post
                      Thanks for the help on tires. Any suggestion about engine being turned off while riding?

                      ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                      Also I was thinking to change my headlight to white light. Just wanted to know the side effects of using a 35w on a 60/55w. Will a 35w headlight be supported on a 60/55w system? And do revert for the earlier questionvtoo. Thanks
                      What RPM does this happen at? Are you sure you aren't lugging the engine? Have you checked the level of all the fluids in the bike (coolant, oil, brake fluid and, obviously, petrol)?

                      Won't comment on the lights question as I don't know much. According to me, if you use lower power rated lights, you may cause the indicators to flash faster/console light to over load and the like. Basically it'll overload other components. I'm not sure, however. You could just use a small resistance to raise the power consumption of the headlight. That way you'll never have problems.
                      Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                      Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                      Break-in tension? Read this.

                      Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Lol, overload other components if we use low power lights?

                        Madhav bhai, you cracked me up!

                        Using 35w bulb on a headlight designed for 65w would do no harm to either the bulb or the other components. Because each component draws only how much current it needs. The rest of the electricity won't go running around creating havoc with console/ indicators, like a squid who just spotted a superbike.


                        If you use a 100/90w bulb on the 65w headlight holder, chances are you could burn the reflector and wiring if it's not built to handle it. The other components won't get enough power for themselves, and that could harm them.

                        However in the case of the CBR the alternator can handle 100/90w bulbs or a pair of extra LED lights.

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by leech View Post
                          Lol, overload other components if we use low power lights?

                          Madhav bhai, you cracked me up!

                          Using 35w bulb on a headlight designed for 65w would do no harm to either the bulb or the other components. Because each component draws only how much current it needs. The rest of the electricity won't go running around creating havoc with console/ indicators, like a squid who just spotted a superbike.


                          If you use a 100/90w bulb on the 65w headlight holder, chances are you could burn the reflector and wiring if it's not built to handle it. The other components won't get enough power for themselves, and that could harm them.

                          However in the case of the CBR the alternator can handle 100/90w bulbs or a pair of extra LED lights.
                          Told you I don't know what I'm talking about. I dunno how bikes are wired and I definitely haven't learned much in that direction. It was a guess, is all. But yes, I get it. That was not even a good educated guess.
                          Don't matter what it is: Touring; Racing; Commuting. All I know is, I belong on the saddle.

                          Rides : Honda CB Twister(Feb 2011 - Present) | TVS Apache RTR 180 ABS(Sept 2012 - May 2016) | Honda CBR250R C-ABS Repsol(March 2017 - Present)

                          Break-in tension? Read this.

                          Love camping and riding? Google - On Rustic Routes.

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                            If you can can, swap the the old Contigos for a new pair of MRFs or MPSRs. Contigos do offer okay-ish grip, but after they are worn, they start acting radically different. If you can remove the stock tires, and try exchanging it with a pair of MPSRs or MRFs you've got yourself a fairly good deal. Check around your area for any tire dealers who would be willing to exchange your bike's tire for a new set of rubber.



                            Some things are really hard to decide, aren't they, it's like selecting between Jockey or Haynes. BS III can be registered till April, 2017 post which the drama surrounding partial BSIII vehicles should come to an end, meaning all the bikes would be 100% BS IV. Now, the real deal is the ABS norms which are supposed to come into effect in April 1 2018, so I'd suggest you should have trouble deciding ABS or non-ABS

                            Cheers!
                            VJ
                            Thx bro.
                            Going for Abs was already decided, in fact Abs is one of the primary factor for me to chose the CBR. So knowingly-unknowingly I m spared from another confusion. 😊
                            Also after thinking with calm mind, I have decided to buy White Pearl edition.
                            The only thing bothering me was BS4 noms. As When I went for booking initially they had no idea abt BS4.
                            U get AHO with BS4 model which I may not get.
                            & As u told abt Abs ~ I m getting Abs ver so it's not an issue for me. [emoji3]
                            Last edited by pinkesh2703; 03-21-2017, 11:42 AM.

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Originally posted by Ave2592 View Post
                              Thanks for the help on tires. Any suggestion about engine being turned off while riding?

                              ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                              Also I was thinking to change my headlight to white light. Just wanted to know the side effects of using a 35w on a 60/55w. Will a 35w headlight be supported on a 60/55w system? And do revert for the earlier questionvtoo. Thanks
                              As for the engine turning off, this tends to happen on certain motorcycles under certain circumstances. The circumstances being something like this: You are in say 3rd gear(or higher) and going above 40kmph and then suddenly close the throttle completely and pull in clutch (and maybe downshift) the engine might turn off. My assumption is that it might be due to the sudden vacuum change and/or the fi cutting fuel supply. So whenever you decide to pull in the clutch in such cases, ensure you blip the throttle a couple of times. Essentially improve your riding technique.. Also you might want to read about 'rev matching' during a down shift.

                              Using white light - it isn't very effective during rainy/foggy conditions, especially if you use one of them cheapo bulbs (it will appear bright at the reflector but the beam throw and practicality will be useless.
                              And a 35W bulb in place of a 60/55w is not going to cause any harm to the electricals. Am not sure why you would want to do this (maybe you want to save some power and use it to power additional auxiliary headlight such as the led spotlights?)

                              ----consecutive posts auto-merged-----

                              Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                              Won't comment on the lights question as I don't know much. According to me, if you use lower power rated lights, you may cause the indicators to flash faster/console light to over load and the like. Basically it'll overload other components. I'm not sure, however.
                              you are partially correct.
                              1. using a 35w headlight in place of 60w will not cause any issues like overload etc. (the same way you can use a 40w bulb or a 60w bulb at your house in the same bulb socket)

                              2. But if you were to change the indicator bulbs to a lower rating, they might flash slower depending on the type of flasher unit (electro-mechanical vs electronic) on the bike. For example on my 2007 Dio I had to change one indicator bulb and the shop guy by mistake gave me a lower rated bulb and when i used it, the bulb flashed really slow. Changed it to the correct rated bulb and it blinks normally.

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by madhav766 View Post
                                Uhh. One, please explain the bolded parts sir! What does bias ply mean? And by heavy what to you mean, how does it make a difference to handling?

                                And lose grip even on slight lean? I did not see that happening on the pair on my bike...


                                This should explain the difference and characteristic of both types of tyre.
                                Please.S: ignore the obvious Michelin marketing

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