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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Hello experts, is it necessary to replace the engine oil every 6months i.e. during each service even if I haven't covered 6000Km from last oil change? Last time when I went for service, I had only clocked approx 1500 km after the previous oil change, still the mechanic changed the entire engine oil. The oil that he drained out as good as the new oil.

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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by epsilondav View Post
      Hello experts, is it necessary to replace the engine oil every 6months i.e. during each service even if I haven't covered 6000Km from last oil change? Last time when I went for service, I had only clocked approx 1500 km after the previous oil change, still the mechanic changed the entire engine oil. The oil that he drained out as good as the new oil.
      Hello. Not an expert. But then I don't think oil change is needed this early. Not for 2-3k kms atleast.

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by bala13 View Post
        Exactly same thing happened with my CBR150, 5-6 months ago.
        Remove spark plug cap & put it back again, this trick worked on my bike.
        Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
        From your video I can sense that the bike cranks way too freely, how a bike would crank when a spark plug is removed. I'd definitely recommend you to check your spark plug, and your spark plug lead, check them both. Start off first with the plug lead/cap, remove the cap and install them back, crank the motorcycle to check if she fires. If she doesn't remove the plug and install it back and see if she cranks up, she should fire up if it's a simple issue. Though, I see your fuel level is too low.



        Yes and no. Yes it looks cool, no it can clearly mask the goop/gunk that covers in the radiator and can overtime ruin the cooling efficiency of the radiator and remember if you intend to clean the radiator, the guard is then required to be removed each and every time.

        Cheers!
        VJ
        Originally posted by hypheni View Post
        Don't know what's the exact age of your machine but I guess it's at least 5+ years old. Did you ever changed the spark plug till date? As suggested by @B7ACKTHORN do check all the mentioned things.

        On last month I had same issue and that time I felt it was due to low fuel but it was not, rather it was an engine flood which was solved only after opening-closing throttle with cranking for a minute. Do let us know when the issue get resolved.
        Thanks a lot for the response Guys....

        Now I feel little bit of confidence about this issue,

        Yes. [MENTION=57101]hypheni[/MENTION] you are right - My bike is from 2011 from the first lot (6+ years old) and No I didn't change the spark plug ever.

        To get access the spark plug needs to completely dismantle the Faring right?

        I have some Force branded tool @ Home, but I'm not confident enough to open the entire farings and able to put it back,

        On the other hand, I need to push back the bike for 2.5 Km to the nearest Honda SVC (Thank God that opens in 2014..and this is the sole reason not to switch any better upgrade)

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Need advice.

          My bike is around 6~7 months old, clocked around 3.2km and completed 2nd service last month..

          Some times bike feels like its running out of petrol and yesterday when i wide opened throttle there was a huge lag..
          There was huge dead zone for around 2~3 sec and then bike was able to pull..

          What could be the issue?

          I usually ride at 60~70kmph and max 85kmph.

          I use only BP petrol and only three selective bunk i use to fuel..

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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by epsilondav View Post
            Hello experts, is it necessary to replace the engine oil every 6months i.e. during each service even if I haven't covered 6000Km from last oil change? Last time when I went for service, I had only clocked approx 1500 km after the previous oil change, still the mechanic changed the entire engine oil. The oil that he drained out as good as the new oil.
            Not necessarily. As long as the oil is inside the engine and the bike is used, there is absolutely nothing to worry. In case, if you're planning for a long term storage, it's advisable to drain the fuel and oil and then park it. 1500 indeed is premature for an oil change. You can continue using the motorcycle for 3k plus KMS on a single oil change. Unless it's a brand new vehicle in which case, it's acceptable.

            Originally posted by bondarun View Post
            Need advice.

            My bike is around 6~7 months old, clocked around 3.2km and completed 2nd service last month..

            Some times bike feels like its running out of petrol and yesterday when i wide opened throttle there was a huge lag..
            There was huge dead zone for around 2~3 sec and then bike was able to pull..

            What could be the issue?

            I usually ride at 60~70kmph and max 85kmph.

            I use only BP petrol and only three selective bunk i use to fuel..
            This usually happens when it engine is cold and when the engine hasn't been properly warmed up. Rev the engine all the way to the redline slowly yet with a constant throttle input, do this twice to thrice, this opens up any the butterfly inside the throttle body and helps clear the TB. Remember the bike shouldn't always hiccup when opened up once the engine is adequately warmed up.

            Cheers!
            VJ
            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
            The girl said, 'NO!'


            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by Ave2592 View Post
              Hello. Not an expert. But then I don't think oil change is needed this early. Not for 2-3k kms atleast.
              If I don't change the oil in 6month interval i.e. during each service, then will my warranty be void? According to manual, its written that each service is after 6000km or 6months, whichever is earlier and they have mentioned that engine oil should be changed in each service. I am confused because each and every time I go for service, its after 6months, but during that period I have never had done even close to 2000km. But becuase it is mentioned in the service coupon, the mechanic changes my engine oil.

              Can someone please clarify?

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by Neel08 View Post

                To get access the spark plug needs to completely dismantle the Faring right?

                I have some Force branded tool @ Home, but I'm not confident enough to open the entire farings and able to put it back
                You need to remove only right side panel & it's very easy. Just need Allen key provided with tool kit. Lot of videos on YouTube.
                Live To Ride✌

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                  Not necessarily. As long as the oil is inside the engine and the bike is used, there is absolutely nothing to worry. In case, if you're planning for a long term storage, it's advisable to drain the fuel and oil and then park it. 1500 indeed is premature for an oil change. You can continue using the motorcycle for 3k plus KMS on a single oil change. Unless it's a brand new vehicle in which case, it's acceptable.



                  This usually happens when it engine is cold and when the engine hasn't been properly warmed up. Rev the engine all the way to the redline slowly yet with a constant throttle input, do this twice to thrice, this opens up any the butterfly inside the throttle body and helps clear the TB. Remember the bike shouldn't always hiccup when opened up once the engine is adequately warmed up.

                  Cheers!
                  VJ


                  This happened and noticed after riding 5km.. engine was more than warm at that time

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by epsilondav View Post
                    If I don't change the oil in 6month interval i.e. during each service, then will my warranty be void? According to manual, its written that each service is after 6000km or 6months, whichever is earlier and they have mentioned that engine oil should be changed in each service. I am confused because each and every time I go for service, its after 6months, but during that period I have never had done even close to 2000km. But becuase it is mentioned in the service coupon, the mechanic changes my engine oil.

                    Can someone please clarify?
                    No it doesn't hamper the warranty. The book given info is correct without a doubt, but for people like myself and many others who can touch around 5-6k kms. My bike is 6 months old and done 7k+ kms already.
                    See, the thing is simple. If you feel your bike is still smooth, doesn't smell of oil burning or the condition is good as per your riding kms, there is no need to change.
                    I love to redline, which I know is hampering with my engine life, but I can't help it. I've ridden more than 2k kms on the motul 7100 10w40. Will get it changed now since I am getting that oil burning smell when I ride.
                    For you Sir, change anytime in between 2.5 - 3k kms for better engine life and smoother ride.
                    Ride safe.
                    Cheers.✌

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by Neel08 View Post
                      Thanks a lot for the response Guys....

                      Now I feel little bit of confidence about this issue,

                      Yes. [MENTION=57101]hypheni[/MENTION] you are right - My bike is from 2011 from the first lot (6+ years old) and No I didn't change the spark plug ever.

                      To get access the spark plug needs to completely dismantle the Faring right?

                      I have some Force branded tool @ Home, but I'm not confident enough to open the entire farings and able to put it back,

                      On the other hand, I need to push back the bike for 2.5 Km to the nearest Honda SVC (Thank God that opens in 2014..and this is the sole reason not to switch any better upgrade)
                      Okay. Did you crossed 45K kms on ODO, as many people reported here that they have only changed their spark plug after 40-45kms. One more thing did you tried cranking your engine with throttle opened? Might be it's just a flooded engine? BTW what's your nearest service station and who is the CBR engineer over there? Do let me know about their findings.
                      Last edited by hypheni; 09-17-2017, 11:26 PM.

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        [MENTION=94433]epsilondav[/MENTION] - if your bike is under warranty you need to change the oil strictly as per manual. 6000 kms OR 6 months, whichever is earlier. If you miss the service even by a week, Honda can legally void the warranty if something goes wrong with the bike.

                        In your case, you have to change the oil every 6 months if you plan to keep warranty, since you don't ride that often to cover 6000 kms.
                        [MENTION=63121]bondarun[/MENTION] - if you ride slowly all the time and then try to rip it, you'll find the bike to be lazy; it's happened to me too. Do this to keep your bike on its toes - go to second gear on an empty road and give half throttle till it gets to 10k rpm. Release throttle, let the engine braking slow the bike, then again rip it. This way, the bike will 'learn' to release its power. Same thing goes with top speed runs. You will need 3-4 tries to extract 150-155kmph from the bike if you're a sedate rider.
                        Last edited by leech; 09-17-2017, 11:50 PM.

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by leech View Post
                          [MENTION=94433]epsilondav[/MENTION] - if your bike is under warranty you need to change the oil strictly as per manual. 6000 kms OR 6 months, whichever is earlier. If you miss the service even by a week, Honda can legally void the warranty if something goes wrong with the bike.

                          In your case, you have to change the oil every 6 months if you plan to keep warranty, since you don't ride that often to cover 6000 kms.
                          [MENTION=63121]bondarun[/MENTION] - if you ride slowly all the time and then try to rip it, you'll find the bike to be lazy; it's happened to me too. Do this to keep your bike on its toes - go to second gear on an empty road and give half throttle till it gets to 10k rpm. Release throttle, let the engine braking slow the bike, then again rip it. This way, the bike will 'learn' to release its power. Same thing goes with top speed runs. You will need 3-4 tries to extract 150-155kmph from the bike if you're a sedate rider.
                          Then I am stuck with unnecessary oil changes for the next 5 years. As my vehicle is under warranty, I guess I can't even change the oil grade or brand i.e. I am bound to use Honda Throttle FS 10w30?

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            [MENTION=94433]epsilondav[/MENTION] -yep, you have to stick to Honda's oil. Despite what people believe, there is no known case of a cbr250 engine being destroyed due to usage of Honda Throttle. Stick to it, and forget about it. The oil level in the bike is what you should be checking every week.

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Originally posted by leech View Post
                              [MENTION=94433]epsilondav[/MENTION] -yep, you have to stick to Honda's oil. Despite what people believe, there is no known case of a cbr250 engine being destroyed due to usage of Honda Throttle. Stick to it, and forget about it. The oil level in the bike is what you should be checking every week.
                              Thank you Sir.

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by hypheni View Post
                                Okay. Did you crossed 45K kms on ODO, as many people reported here that they have only changed their spark plug after 40-45kms. One more thing did you tried cranking your engine with throttle opened? Might be it's just a flooded engine? BTW what's your nearest service station and who is the CBR engineer over there? Do let me know about their findings.
                                No....My ODO is 32,681Km...Tried So far 1.Full Throttle Open in Neutral 2. With CLutch Press in Neutral in Full Throttle, 3.first Gear at with Clutch Press Full Throttle - Results are same as shown in the video....So many failed crank lead to the battery drain.

                                Also able to locate from the left side of the faring L shaped pipe which I believe is the spark plug (Right... ?) is very strongly holding its position judging by looks....so Spark Plug problem is not sure.

                                My nearest SVC is Satellite service center (at Titagargh) of the Original one which is Shiva Wheels Honda situated near Dunlop - They have one CBR Bay where local CBR owner comes and doing their regular service including me....If the Major problem arises they usually summon people from their main SVC to deal with that...Earlier at 2014 my bike riddle with the problem which is every 2-5 km bike stopped automatically - Turns out Dirty injector they solved it by cleaning.

                                I don't know the name of the Service Manager but he also the owner of a CBR250.

                                Will definatly Update this thread about my bike issue and it's conclusion.
                                Last edited by Neel08; 09-18-2017, 05:17 PM.

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