Replacement CBR 250R

Guys i have a really BIG serious question,
Can i get a replacement or my money refunded in case of a faulty CBR as in Manufacturing defect CBR wherein the showroom guys also agree to it as a intial Quality manufacturing issue, the bike wobbles badly hence is unsafe , getting rusted in many parts at some major places hence unsafe again and having really bad vibrations from the fiber and fairing, besides making a screeching noise on first gear while starting early in the morning and paint chipping off engine,all this one a less than a month old and 1000kms done bike.
I plan on suing Honda and taking them to consumer court if i don't get proper alternative and i really wanna highlight quality issues with the bike.
There is an engineer coming to see my bike tomorrow after a lot of persuasion and mailing, only when i threatened them that if something happens to me Honda and the dealer would be responsible due to a faulty vehicle then they thought of attending me.
let's see how it goes tomorrow ?
My family and friends are asking me to either get a replacement/Upgrade from Honda or take my full refund with compensation for all the mental harassment and time wasted and go for a Kawasakhi Ninja 250r ,atleast they are providing better services.
Kindly advise, Argee, other regular member's.

Did u check the last post at N250R thread?
A guy had a minor accident with fairings and lever broken
Cost is about 45 grand now and the ASC has asked him to collect his bike after 30 days.(most probably due to non availability of spares as Honda)

As for paint chipping off.. it only happens when somebody washes the bike when the engine is still hot
the Rust. well its always better to keep that anti-rust spray handy and spray on the affecting parts once a week or two.(or just paint those parts as long as theyre not main components)

If you really intent to seek my suggestion, then you've to be patient enough to answer my questions. Are you ok with that?

First you define clearly what you need. Do you want a new bike OR your money back OR the issues to be fixed. Unless YOU, as a person, have that clearly on mind, you cannot get anywhere.

To me, it was clear that I don't want N250R...
1. I DO NOT want to pay anymore tax to Govt & I'm very particular on it
2. It isn't practically suitable for me to take it 50 Kms everytime for a service
3. Not to mention, the expensive parts. While I can easily manage C250R's parts without insurance too

If you plan to lodge a complaint at the court, then do not do it as individual, make it as a group effort. In my case, I'm just waiting to get back. If HMSI hasn't given the letter of engine number changed to the dealer yet, there're no more talking with anyone, I'm simply walking to court. So you might've someone to count on the group here.

Yeah Aargee i am ok with any questions u wanna ask, as long as your suggestion is unbiased and clear.

Well nitesh it can happen with one guy or at the max a couple of them but not with every second or third guy or majority of initial CBR owners.

Dude what to do for a bike which was delivered with rusting parts and also with a faulty handling, to which i objected on taking delivery but the showroom guys told me that its just a minor glitch (faulty handle)and will go with time in a day or two.

Like I said, define what you need first & then work on it.

If you're looking to fix the bike, then, you need to make a ruckus that only HMSI engineers have to look into it. Otherwise, they'll get the ASC guys to fix it. Nothing wrong, but, only thing is that, the ASC should've employed someone who knows what he's doing.

When you make noise, HMSI will automatically send the parts to you & trust me, if it only takes 3 days to ship a new engine, why not other parts? It all depends upon your rapport with dealer & his rapport with HMSI.

Ok, this point will be clearly rejected by court; HMSI will clearly ask, why did you take the delivery & put it on dealer; Dealer will say, they'll fix the issue but HMSI is not supplying the parts. HMSI will say they're having production issues & will supply ASAP & buy a stay from court to fix within next 90 days. Until then your bike will be at ASC

Argee i sincerely want a new replacement bike and that too an ABS one as that's what i initially intended to buy but could not get it due to unavailability.

was your engine changed instead of your complete bike? and yes yesterday's meeting with the Honda engineers will decide on the course of action to be taken ..court or otherwise.
Are u waiting for some documents from HMSI to ur dealer stating engine number change for a re registration.

I have received a REg no and a temp Reg Cert not proper doc yet so will they be able to replace the entire bike or provide an upgrade with re registration at their expense?

Registration doesn't matter too much if HMSI interferes in changing the vehicle as such. The dealer should be able to help you with their contacts. Trust me, HMSI will never even budge even if you send a court notice to them. The key to the issue of obtaining a new vehicle is...PATIENCE. So let me begin with the facts or rather...all negatives

At the present stage, in Chennai, where things move a little bit, it takes nearly 2 years for consumer court to settle a dispute. So, if it takes the same time at your state, by the time the verdict is out, you can see KTM, Fazer, Hyosung, Pulsar, HH & TVS flooding the market with 250cc. Are you willing to wait so much of time?

Another point of view is that, say if the court orders HMSI for a replacement to be done in 6 months & HMSI says if they need your bike after which their clock starts ticking, would you be able to survive without a bike for 6 months?

Worst thing is, if during the dispute, if HMSI argues saying that they need the bike to carry out R&D & they take away your bike & IF at all they replace you with Activa or Dio during that time, would that be OK with you?

But this happen both time when i'm taking turn towards right side... i engage the clutch to change the gear after braking... will discuses this with Honda peoples tomorrow morning...

Its certainly an issue, I don't deny that. When you engage the clutch while braking, the vehicle SHOULD not kill the engine.

But I'm talking more on riding perspective that, never engage the clutch & brake together.

yape... I mark you words...

Absolutely true Prashant. Most of the riders think they are the king on the road when they have a big machine, which is so wrong. Am happy that xBhp is educating a lot of people about safety and riding gear .

Modified Servicing Schedule?

I got my bike delivered from My Wings Honda Pune on 16th July. After over 200 kms, the bike is running perfectly well with no issues.

The dealer gave me the owner's manual with a modified servicing schedule stuck over the front page. Pic attached. According to this, the servicing has to be done every 3000 kms! But the owner's manual clearly mentions 6000 kms. But I think this is better, 6K seems quite a long time.

Does this happen in the morning, in first gear only? Cause even I have experienced it.

Honda is not GOD. They have to answer their wrong doings. After AarGee you seem to be another one who has been taken for a ride. I read so many others also complaining about the rust. Where exactly have you seen this rust, on which body part? And this wobbling thing, Is it at a particular speed ? DO let all of us know. You can count on us to support you on every forum or whereever you need our support. Mighty Honda has to understand that if we are not satisfied with the quality of its product that we can do quite damage to it sales by letting people know the real truth about its product.