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Not 300 km in one tank, obviously. I've been filling up at every 200 km. @trustvishwas advised me to rip the bike for about 700-800 km in order to open up the throttle completely. Even in the city, I've been redlining it at lower gears, say, 50 km/h in 1st gear. I'm done with 300 km of these and I have to say that despite the lower FE, the engine seems much more responsive. More of a sports bike feel rather than a commuter.Originally posted by aargee View PostAre you sure you're talking or measuring right? If your FE is 21, then 21 X 13 (even if its 14 then its only 294 with the full tank dry) the range is only 273; then how is it possible to get 300 Kms?
I, too have received great service at my ASC. Some ASC are bound to not be as good as others. @sreejinair- you might have gone to some of the lesser known dealers.Originally posted by aargee View PostHow do you know this? How many ASC's have you approached? I've been getting a very good response in all the states, read STATES; TN, MH, RJ & GJ.
Lol.. Haha. I agree. A friend's R15 looks too small next to my CBR.Originally posted by aargee View PostLol!!! The most hilarious statement my friend!!! Have you actually placed a R15 next to C250R & check it out? Give me an honest answer, 'cause I've done that & guess what? My answer is quite contrary to yours!!!
+1, especially about the 120 km/h part.Originally posted by aargee View PostDoing 120 on city is absolute crazy!!! Pls take care, we need you as well as others to be safe on the road!!!
From all your posts sreejinair - you're totally confused; just think over what sayhi2sai said on requirements; define them right & see what you need & fits your budget & then you'll automatically see where you're heading.
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^^^ Oh!!! ok got you on the FE part; and what you've been adviced is perfect, perfect & perfectly right; But just avoid 50 Kmph in 1st gear kind of rips going forward. If you notice, you can feel the difference only upto 8.5 or max till 9K RPM, after that you can see there isn't significant progress as what you experience from 6-8.5K RPM range. Besides, keep the REV only upto 8.5K RPM for a good long engine life.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day
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@ Aargee and others
If the 6th gear is showing dummy response, please lodge an official complaint to Honda, Haryana plant. Be polite while penning down emails, they would be responsive for sure. Let me know if the response gets awfully delayed. I would give the number of right official.
P.S. Avoid talking to cartoon customer care representatives if you are making a call to Haryana plant.
Sometimes, if you do not follow a proper run-in period, the top gear gets kind of dormant when you use it post-run in. A proper break-in is necessary and occasional bursts do the tricks.
But this problem is not that simple and I hope the expert Honda mechanic is able to solve it.
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Pravu - If you're confident on this issue, then I WILL give a try with what you suggest; because my requirement on C250R was, ride comfortably in 120, which is happening & shoot upto 140 (without great efforts) which is not happening; the extra 5 Kmph is what I need to make a choice to live with or move!!!
Would be of great help if you can PM me.Originally posted by pravu View PostI would give the number of right official
Err...not sure if I understood this right; can you help understand pls?Originally posted by pravu View PostSometimes, if you do not follow a proper run-in period, the top gear gets kind of dormant when you use it post-run in. A proper break-in is necessary and occasional bursts do the tricksSkill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day
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Reply in Bold.Originally posted by aargee View PostHow can you be so sure? I don't intent to challenge, but trying to find a reason; I'll only be happy to learn because, its quite irritating to find a fuel station for every 220 odd Kms before I run into issues. Atleast, it helps me in the return leg to Chennai.
Well I said I dont have any documented/written proof but my own experience. I filled 11.45Lts(Still got the receipt in my Pocket
). So assuming the tank holds 14Lts(as specified, correct me if am wrong) the amount of (pre)petrol left is 2.55 Lts.
I get 34Kmpl milage, KMS reading in my bike now is 1145 for better understanding. I'll run a few more thousand KMS and will calculate the average.
Yes pls help with the accurate calculations
Sure, will take time as I dont commute long distances on a daily basis and I enjoy my riding, never a rash rider, which helps in better KMPL, so more info on Tank capacity will have to wait for another 2weeks.
Quite difficult; I don't intent to see myself with a bursted fuel pump in the middle of nowhere!!!
Is this possible?? I mean, Wont the bike just die when sufficient fuel is not available, or will it impact the FI mechanism? Am asking because this is my first FI bike and I never had any problem with the curborator in my previous bike( I ran out of fuel on a few occasions)
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This is getting interesting!!! I've few more questions for you...Originally posted by rmchhetri View PostWell I said I dont have any documented/written proof but my own experience. I filled 11.45Lts(Still got the receipt in my Pocket
). So assuming the talk holds 14Lts(as specified, correct me if am wrong) the amount of pre petrol left is 2.55 Lts. I get 34Kmpl milage, KMS reading in my bike now is 1145 for better.
1. What's your trip meter reading when the blinker comes ON on the LED?
2. After the blinker is ON, how many Kms do you ride?
3. When you refuel, do you refuel to brim or to the recommended level? And I hope this is where you say you refuel for 11.x lts right?
4. But, how do you know the left over fuel is 2.55 lts? Why couldn't it be 1.55 lts? How did you measure it?
Come now!!! Let me terrify youOriginally posted by rmchhetri View PostIs this possible?? I mean, Wont the bike just die when sufficient fuel is not available, or will it impact the FI mechanism? Am asking because this is my first FI bike and I never had any problem with the curborator in my previous bike( I ran out of fuel on a few occasions)
On a FI engine, the fuel pump stays submerged in the fuel; the pump actually pulls the fuel & sends to cylinder via injector; now when there's no fuel, the pump simply keeps pulling & pulling & there's a lot of air in addition to fuel that is supplied to the cylinder & over a period of time, the pump gets hotter & leads to flames or damages the injector or both.
On a carb'd engine, this doesn't happen as there's no push or pull mechanism & things work out of vaccum.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day
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Yes, I would surely give that official's number to you. Only to you as of now cuz I know you have done a lot of homework already with your previous tangy experiences.Originally posted by aargee View PostPravu - If you're confident on this issue, then I WILL give a try with what you suggest;
Coming to the proper run in, one should run his ride at every gear. Its not necessary to do high speeds just in order to make the 6th gear operational. 6th gear can be tried any speed above 70km/hr. Occasional bursts till 115-120km/hr is acceptable. The first oil filter change is done for obvious reasons as you are aware about. Soon after, people tend to test their ride's top end. So, the engine gets first ever exposure to good figures like 130+ km/hr. Well, you should open up the engine in best possible manner you can. This is the second crucial period for engine. Try changing gears close to red line starting from 2nd onwards. The engine gets really tuned up to good speeds and after doing next 1000 kms, this is where I must suggest to change the oil filter again. Cuz the engine was exposed to these figures for the 1st time and there would surely be some good abrasions.
P.S. I hope this helps a lot for new owners who have just bought their Ceebers.
And yes ppl claiming about good FE figures should not celebrate. Any FE fig above or below the company's suggested value is a bad news for engine. It surely means something is wrong.
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Its not the matter of placing the bikes next to each other, I already mentioned that the length, breadth and height of the CBR is more than that of the New R15. What I ment was how a big guy looks on the bikes. It might be due to the fairing position or the size. From the front the R15 definitely looks fatter than the CBR.
I knew I'll be getting questions like "what are you requirements? etc" My question is very basic, dont know how to put it but here goes. Which bike will you buy if you had a budget of 1.6 lacs and want a bike which is sporty looking and can do 120 - 150 without much efforts.
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Asking this question in this ownership thread, the answer you get is obvious.Originally posted by sreejinair View PostWhich bike will you buy if you had a budget of 1.6 lacs and want a bike which is sporty looking and can do 120 - 150 without much efforts.
Put a new thread in What Bike section with all requirements/thoughts as u did here and I believe you get some honest opinion from others members.
What is the company claimed figure ? Any link ?Originally posted by pravuAny FE fig above or below the company's suggested value is a bad news for engine.Last edited by Neel08; 09-11-2011, 07:46 PM.
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I suggest you to take a pic of you sitting on both CBR and on the R15. You would then know which one looks small and which looks big. For me, it was definitely the CBR.Originally posted by sreejinair View PostIts not the matter of placing the bikes next to each other, I already mentioned that the length, breadth and height of the CBR is more than that of the New R15. What I ment was how a big guy looks on the bikes. It might be due to the fairing position or the size. From the front the R15 definitely looks fatter than the CBR.
CBR 250R.Originally posted by sreejinair View PostI knew I'll be getting questions like "what are you requirements? etc" My question is very basic, dont know how to put it but here goes. Which bike will you buy if you had a budget of 1.6 lacs and want a bike which is sporty looking and can do 120 - 150 without much efforts.Sudeep P Nambiar
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Anyday I'd agree with you more than a million times on this!!! Had some freaking experiences as well as heard few of them with 2 strokes; forget alone the 4's!!!Originally posted by pravu View PostAnd yes ppl claiming about good FE figures should not celebrate. Any FE fig above or below the company's suggested valueis a bad news for engine. It surely means something is wrong.
Try doing this...go to a restaurant next time & tell the bearer to bring some food for Rs 100 & watch his reaction!!! That's the same position you're!!!Originally posted by sreejinair View PostWhich bike will you buy if you had a budget of 1.6 lacs and want a bike which is sporty looking and can do 120 - 150 without much efforts.
Pal, you're simply confused or not able to know what you need or simply biased more towards something which is not true!!! Time & again, we've been saying this everytime to everyone, do not go by what other's say; just jot down your requirements, otherwise, you're going to keep regretting (or may be lady luck with you) or praising about your new posession everyday. This is precisely the reason why most people keep complaining everyday on the issues. If you still have questions, go through my post on how to define your requirements. Just search my profile on all the threads I started & the recent one should display it for you.
Just do what sayhi2sai says; defining your requirements is the toughest homework to do, but, unless you do your homework properly, don't expect other's to do it!!! I'm talking no more on this!!!
Last but not the least, Sudeep & Neel are bang right on their points...word by word.
@Neel - Regarding FE, I've posted my observations on one of my previous post today. I'm sharing those figs after about 7500+ on my ODO. So mostly, if you accelerate sane, the FE should be about 30, give or take 1-2 Kmpl. But under 100, the FE has a different behaviour. This is just my observation & I still have a feeling that, each bike should behave different w.r.t their owner's & I'm really looking forward to hear such a comprehensive FE report like the one I posted.Last edited by aargee; 09-11-2011, 07:54 PM.Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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I wanted to type all this pointers last night but thought the FE question would be gone by today.. so then i saw two more posts and wanted to post all this now and i see uve already done itOriginally posted by aargee View Post
Answering the FE, here're my observations for over 4K kms...
- Never open up the full throttle even for few seconds, the FE drops significantly
- Never rev more than 8-8.5K RPM, which is safe for your engine as well as good FE
- It doesn't matter if you ride anywhere between 105-120, as you get almost the same FE; but if you ride anything around 96 Kmph, the FE increase is noticed marginally (say like 31/32 Kmpl)
- Always remember to increase the speed gradually (not sudden) to strike a best FE & speed balance; suggestion is to stay at 6K RPM with every gear & then increase to keep around 7-7.5K RPM at 6th gear for the best speeds (can do 115-120) & great FE (yields 30)
- You can do 130ish & still get around 27 (sometimes 29 too) but ensure a gradual acceleration like keep not more than 6K RPM at every gear; the acceleration is also linear, good & at the same time quicker & then increase from 6th gear onwards.
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^^ If you have a budget of "1.6 lacs and want a bike which is sporty looking and can do 120 - 150 without much efforts" and ask the same in the CBR ownership thread then the only answer I have for you is: Buy the CBR, forget the R15, you will not regret it
Interesting piece of info there pravu. Will check out my bike's 6th gear speeds as well. But from what I could remember, the bike could easily do 120 from around 80 in 6th gear.
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