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  • ^^ I guess we are still to figure that out. I kept the blinker blinking for a good 30 kms and then refueled and still the bike only took 9.42 lts!!!
    So given a mileage of 30kmpl (for calculation purposes) I should be doing 282.6 kms until my next refuel. So will check out what the range really is soon enough

    @r13nick: LOL. I was getting the opposite of your mileage! Now its stable at 30. Did quite a few kms in my last petrol refuel within the city and mileage was just 30kmpl!

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    • Originally posted by firen View Post
      Even with ripping people have quoted about 34 to 35 in their cbr in a highway run. I get around 27 to 29 highwy riding on my Ninja itself. What fuel do you use?
      I use Speed. Before 1st service I used to get 27-28. After service, I got 25 once. And on this latest occasion, I got 31.5km/l. Should I be using a higher RON petrol?

      Originally posted by sayhi2sai View Post
      Does anyone else have an issue of the bike not revving past 8.5k rpm in the 6th gear? I can touch 143 kmph at 10.5k rpm in 5th gear, but the moment i shift to the 6th, the rpm suddenly falls to 8.5k and will not budge from there, almost as if it has been cut off(which might actually be true.) As a result the top speed falls to 141 when compared to 143. How is it that the bike achieves the top speed in 1 gear less than the highest??

      After i shift to 6th, the bike will just not revv past that cut off however long/inclined the stretch might be. Is this something i should be concerned about? or
      So asking here if this is an isolated incident?
      Happens with me too. Doesn't budge after 9k RPM. But that, I reckon, is because the 6th gear is an overdrive gear and is for cruising. But then, that's my thought. Would love to stand corrected, in case my thought's wrong.

      Originally posted by chicmagnet View Post
      ^^ I guess we are still to figure that out. I kept the blinker blinking for a good 30 kms and then refueled and still the bike only took 9.42 lts!!!
      So given a mileage of 30kmpl (for calculation purposes) I should be doing 282.6 kms until my next refuel. So will check out what the range really is soon enough

      @r13nick: LOL. I was getting the opposite of your mileage! Now its stable at 30. Did quite a few kms in my last petrol refuel within the city and mileage was just 30kmpl!
      The highest that I've gone with a tankfull is 251 kms, post which my bike took in 10.02 ltrs. Otherwise normally it takes somewhere around 9.2-9.5 ltrs.
      Last edited by dreamseller; 09-11-2011, 01:31 AM. Reason: MultiQuote
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      • i am also using speed.
        it has 13 litre capacity, but we can fill in 14litre (tried)

        frm last time hv started using octane 97 let see how much FE it will give this time
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        • Originally posted by Nithesh View Post

          nice is ti available in here . . ?
          Originally posted by Dipesh NastyBoy View Post
          HI to all

          hey guyz i bought my honda cbr 250r std today ...so i want your help to maintain it ...please help me

          i m uploading some pics of my bike......please give me your review
          congo bro welcome to the club
          Four wheels move the body. Two wheels move the soul.

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          • Originally posted by r13nick View Post
            nice is ti available in here . . ?
            Performance Racing Store. R&G HONDA CBR 250R Tail Tidy Kit
            Always assume the other guy will mess up - Ride Defensively!

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            • Originally posted by gamefreak View Post
              It's been close to 250 kms with my ceebee now.......i have to admit i'm enjoying every minute of it....since this was going to be my first geared bike, i was very nervous about it...but now those nerves are settling down...
              My views:
              Mileage - it returned close to 35/kmpl in the first 250 kms...
              35 kmpl prior to the first servicing? That is phenomenal!

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              • I have been ripping my bike for the last 300 km. And by ripping, I mean, redlining every gear, and cruising along at 10-11k rpm, although for short distances.

                Last time I filled up, got mileage 21 km/l. Otherwise, with my normal riding, I get around 27 km/l.

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                • Cbr 250r

                  hey even i got my CBR 250R Red...................its awesome ..........nd i need xbhp help to maintain it ...wat should i do to get more average ....

                  i m uploading some pics of my CBR

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                  • Originally posted by aargee View Post
                    ^^^ Then the question arises as what is the minimum amount of fuel that can be left in the tank without causing damages to pump or the FI? Is it 2 lts? So when the blinker starts, does it mean that there's another 3 lts that can be used? Assuming a FE of 33 Kmpl for 80 Kmph ride, so does one have about 100 Kms range still?
                    That is something we will learn from experience or popping the question to honda officials or service mechs. I have a very good feeling that this bike does not require more than 2-2.5 Lts for the FI to operate, although I have no proof of the same except my own experience. I'll pay full attention this time and test how much more the tank can take it
                    I still have a record of over 2 years of filling petrol in my previous bike and I must says it has always taken in more than what the company has specified.(Previous bike was not FI, it was Honda Unicorn)
                    So I say experiment and find it out for yourself.

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                    • CBR vs R15 V2

                      Hello guys

                      I'm 31 year old, 5.11 and 105 kilos. Well thats one large person now isnt it

                      It has been 9 years since I had a bike, my first bike was pulsar 150 and my last bike till date. Since no one is getting any younger, I thought I'll buy one more bike probably for one last time, not sure about "one last time" because you never know

                      I'm confused between the CBR 250R and the R15 V2. I've seen both the bikes and test driven the CBR 250R, but since some aholes own the yamaha showroom in our city, I couldnt manage a test ride yet.

                      CBR
                      I didnt like the build quality of the CBR compared to R15. Infact some of the other honda bikes in India are better built than the CBR. May be the honda dealers for CBR are not good. The bike even though has more length, width & height than the R15 it still looks smaller when a bigger person sits on it. I've read in many forums that some of the guys experienced engine seize after 120+ kmph speed, dont know how far its true. Another thing I've heard is parts availability of the CBR is not good. But the CBR has more power than the R15. I had a 150cc bike even though it was 9 years back and a 250cc would definitely be a good upgrade.

                      R15 V2
                      Couldnt test ride it so cant say how it rides, but I've seen the bike and I've to say the build quality of the R15 is way better than the CBR. It looks bigger than the CBR, its looks like a proper sports bike. Its powered less than the CBR

                      CBR R15
                      250cc 150cc
                      25BHP 17BHP
                      22.9 Nm 15Nm

                      On paper the CBR (non ABS) is without a doubt a better bike for the extra 30 to 40K. The heart wants a Yamaha R250 I'm confused, let me know what you guys think.

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                      • Originally posted by sreejinair View Post
                        Hello guys

                        I'm 31 year old, 5.11 and 105 kilos. Well thats one large person now isnt it

                        It has been 9 years since I had a bike, my first bike was pulsar 150 and my last bike till date. Since no one is getting any younger, I thought I'll buy one more bike probably for one last time, not sure about "one last time" because you never know

                        I'm confused between the CBR 250R and the R15 V2. I've seen both the bikes and test driven the CBR 250R, but since some aholes own the yamaha showroom in our city, I couldnt manage a test ride yet.

                        CBR
                        I didnt like the build quality of the CBR compared to R15. Infact some of the other honda bikes in India are better built than the CBR. May be the honda dealers for CBR are not good. The bike even though has more length, width & height than the R15 it still looks smaller when a bigger person sits on it. I've read in many forums that some of the guys experienced engine seize after 120+ kmph speed, dont know how far its true. Another thing I've heard is parts availability of the CBR is not good. But the CBR has more power than the R15. I had a 150cc bike even though it was 9 years back and a 250cc would definitely be a good upgrade.

                        R15 V2
                        Couldnt test ride it so cant say how it rides, but I've seen the bike and I've to say the build quality of the R15 is way better than the CBR. It looks bigger than the CBR, its looks like a proper sports bike. Its powered less than the CBR

                        CBR R15
                        250cc 150cc
                        25BHP 17BHP
                        22.9 Nm 15Nm

                        On paper the CBR (non ABS) is without a doubt a better bike for the extra 30 to 40K. The heart wants a Yamaha R250 I'm confused, let me know what you guys think.
                        First thing you need to know before you decide on a bike is "What is my expectation from the bike? What are my requirements?" Otherwise, the question you posted is equivalent to someone asking, "Should I buy a hairpin or an Aeroplane? please help". No offense, but there is more to build quality than meets the eye and your question is very ambiguous. I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that you are pre-dispositioned towards the Yammy. If you are, there is absolutely nothing wrong in that, and go with your heart. We can only help you in answering, what the bike can and cannot do. Please post a more detailed requirement and we would be more than glad to help.

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                        • Originally posted by sreejinair View Post
                          Hello guys

                          I'm 31 year old, 5.11 and 105 kilos. Well thats one large person now isnt it

                          It has been 9 years since I had a bike, my first bike was pulsar 150 and my last bike till date. Since no one is getting any younger, I thought I'll buy one more bike probably for one last time, not sure about "one last time" because you never know
                          First of all, congratulations on making the decision to buy a good bike like an R15 or a CBR. Age should be no factor in that decision, considering as 31 isn't really too old for anything.

                          Originally posted by sreejinair View Post
                          CBR
                          I didnt like the build quality of the CBR compared to R15. Infact some of the other honda bikes in India are better built than the CBR. May be the honda dealers for CBR are not good.
                          Who told you that? Maybe some of the earlier lots weren't upto the mark, but the newer lots haven't had any of the earlier problems in equally large numbers (say rusting cone set, or rusting chain, etc).

                          Originally posted by sreejinair View Post
                          I've read in many forums that some of the guys experienced engine seize after 120+ kmph speed, dont know how far its true.
                          This one is definitely not true. Guys here have done 160+ speeds. I myself have ripped it for many kilometers at 140+ speeds. Apart from Aargee, I don't know anyone who has had an engine seize on their CBR.

                          Originally posted by sreejinair View Post
                          CBR R15
                          250cc 150cc
                          25BHP 17BHP
                          22.9 Nm 15Nm

                          On paper the CBR (non ABS) is without a doubt a better bike for the extra 30 to 40K.
                          It's not just an on paper difference. I too have ridden an R15 many times (older one, not the new version), and the difference is obvious.

                          Don't just look at the numbers. A CBR has better lower end torque, as well as 50% higher peak torque than the R15. This makes for amazing city riding. Plus, because of its weight, it's always felt more stable and solid for me, especially when you encounter cross winds. Also, if you're the tourer kind, I've noticed fewer vibrations than R15 at the same speeds on the highways. That makes for more comfort over longer distances. Also, I would recommend the ABS version, considering that ABS has saved my skin multiple times, and a friend with an R15 agrees that he too would have loved an R15 with ABS. It just takes a load off your mind. Definitely worth the extra money you have to shell out.
                          The only gripe I have against the CBR is the wet grip of the tyres, though you can always change to a softer compound if you feel the same way.


                          All in all, I think that the CBR is the clear winner in most if not all aspects. The decision, though, is ultimately yours.

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                          • Thanks for your reply man, I appreciate it. Yesterday I went to two honda showrooms here and thats where I saw the build quality. So i'm guessing they are from the new lot.

                            I've test driven the CBR and I totally agree with you, it does feel planted on the road even at 120+ speeds. Thats what I could do in the city.

                            To be completely honest I like the looks of the new R15, but at the same time I like the power of the CBR. I sat on the CBR and asked a friend to take a picture when I saw the picture it looked like I was sitting on a cycle I'm sure the new R15 is not that big either, of course it actually doesnt matter how you look on the bike, what matters is how you feel on the bike. But still its something which is a little bit of value to me.

                            What about the parts availability, I read on xbhp that the CBR guys are not getting the oil filter and all.


                            Originally posted by sunkenpirate View Post
                            First of all, congratulations on making the decision to buy a good bike like an R15 or a CBR. Age should be no factor in that decision, considering as 31 isn't really too old for anything.



                            Who told you that? Maybe some of the earlier lots weren't upto the mark, but the newer lots haven't had any of the earlier problems in equally large numbers (say rusting cone set, or rusting chain, etc).



                            This one is definitely not true. Guys here have done 160+ speeds. I myself have ripped it for many kilometers at 140+ speeds. Apart from Aargee, I don't know anyone who has had an engine seize on their CBR.



                            It's not just an on paper difference. I too have ridden an R15 many times (older one, not the new version), and the difference is obvious.

                            Don't just look at the numbers. A CBR has better lower end torque, as well as 50% higher peak torque than the R15. This makes for amazing city riding. Plus, because of its weight, it's always felt more stable and solid for me, especially when you encounter cross winds. Also, if you're the tourer kind, I've noticed fewer vibrations than R15 at the same speeds on the highways. That makes for more comfort over longer distances. Also, I would recommend the ABS version, considering that ABS has saved my skin multiple times, and a friend with an R15 agrees that he too would have loved an R15 with ABS. It just takes a load off your mind. Definitely worth the extra money you have to shell out.
                            The only gripe I have against the CBR is the wet grip of the tyres, though you can always change to a softer compound if you feel the same way.


                            All in all, I think that the CBR is the clear winner in most if not all aspects. The decision, though, is ultimately yours.

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                            • Originally posted by sayhi2sai View Post
                              Does anyone else have an issue of the bike not revving past 8.5k rpm in the 6th gear?
                              Count me in buddy ; I'm in the same boat as yours; try it between Trichy-Chennai (not the other way) leg & you can see your bike doing 140+ on 6th gear. Mean to say, the road boosts up otherwise, the bike doesn't rev past 8.5K RPM on 6th gear. I've tested almost at all the highway, Trichy, Chennai, BLR, NICE road, Surat-Ahmedabad, Jaisalmer, Pokhran, Bikaner, NH14, but 137 is all what I see on the 6th.

                              Originally posted by dreamseller View Post
                              Should I be using a higher RON petrol?
                              Small correction, even 91 or 87 is RON petrol; not necessary that 97 octane is ONLY the RON petrol!!! If you can afford 97 RON petrol, just go for it; its amazing.

                              Originally posted by dreamseller View Post
                              Doesn't budge after 9k RPM. But that, I reckon, is because the 6th gear is an overdrive gear and is for cruising.
                              Is it? News to me!!! Sports bike usually do not have over drive gear; cars (excluding sports segment) cruisers DO have overdrive gears.

                              Originally posted by dreamseller View Post
                              The highest that I've gone with a tankfull is 251 kms, post which my bike took in 10.02 ltrs
                              Guess I'm lucky I could do 280 for 9.04 lts; I'm revaling the mileage at the end of this post

                              Originally posted by r13nick View Post
                              but we can fill in 14litre (tried)
                              Whoa!!! Can you share us as how to fill in 14 lts without spilling over the tank? I'd like to fill 14 lts pls.

                              Originally posted by sunkenpirate View Post
                              last 300 km. And by ripping, I mean, redlining every gear, and cruising along at 10-11k rpm, although for short distances
                              Originally posted by sunkenpirate View Post
                              Last time I filled up, got mileage 21 km/l.
                              Are you sure you're talking or measuring right? If your FE is 21, then 21 X 13 (even if its 14 then its only 294 with the full tank dry) the range is only 273; then how is it possible to get 300 Kms?

                              Originally posted by Dipesh NastyBoy View Post
                              nd i need xbhp help to maintain it ...wat should i do to get more average ....
                              1. Avoid the SMS language otherwise, the mods will delete your post.
                              2. Take sometime before posting, go through all the 390+ pages of ownership posts & understand them. It will help you learn many new things as well as avoid posting repeatative questions.

                              Originally posted by rmchhetri View Post
                              I have a very good feeling that this bike does not require more than 2-2.5 Lts for the FI to operate
                              How can you be so sure? I don't intent to challenge, but trying to find a reason; I'll only be happy to learn because, its quite irritating to find a fuel station for every 220 odd Kms before I run into issues. Atleast, it helps me in the return leg to Chennai.

                              Originally posted by rmchhetri View Post
                              I'll pay full attention this time and test how much more the tank can take it
                              Yes pls help with the accurate calculations

                              Originally posted by rmchhetri View Post
                              So I say experiment and find it out for yourself.
                              Quite difficult; I don't intent to see myself with a bursted fuel pump in the middle of nowhere!!!

                              Originally posted by sreejinair View Post
                              but since some aholes own the yamaha showroom in our city, I couldnt manage a test ride yet.
                              Pls...can you mind the language?

                              Originally posted by rmchhetri View Post
                              May be the honda dealers for CBR are not good
                              How do you know this? How many ASC's have you approached? I've been getting a very good response in all the states, read STATES; TN, MH, RJ & GJ.

                              Originally posted by rmchhetri View Post
                              The bike even though has more length, width & height than the R15 it still looks smaller when a bigger person sits on it
                              Lol!!! The most hilarious statement my friend!!! Have you actually placed a R15 next to C250R & check it out? Give me an honest answer, 'cause I've done that & guess what? My answer is quite contrary to yours!!!

                              Originally posted by rmchhetri View Post
                              I've read in many forums that some of the guys experienced engine seize after 120+ kmph speed
                              We don't want many, can you just show me 2 forums & 2 different people pls?

                              Originally posted by rmchhetri View Post
                              It looks bigger than the CBR, its looks like a proper sports bike.


                              Originally posted by rmchhetri View Post
                              On paper the CBR (non ABS) is without a doubt a better bike for the extra 30 to 40K. The heart wants a Yamaha R250 I'm confused, let me know what you guys think.
                              There're lot of things you need to learn!!! That's what I think!!!

                              Originally posted by sayhi2sai View Post
                              "What is my expectation from the bike? What are my requirements?"
                              +Million

                              Originally posted by sreejinair View Post
                              it does feel planted on the road even at 120+ speeds. Thats what I could do in the city
                              Doing 120 on city is absolute crazy!!! Pls take care, we need you as well as others to be safe on the road!!!

                              Originally posted by sreejinair View Post
                              To be completely honest I like the looks of the new R15, but at the same time I like the power of the CBR
                              Start a new project, looks of R15, engine of C250R

                              Originally posted by sreejinair View Post
                              What about the parts availability, I read on xbhp that the CBR guys are not getting the oil filter and all.
                              If you're apprehensive about all these, just stay away from C250R!!!

                              From all your posts sreejinair - you're totally confused; just think over what sayhi2sai said on requirements; define them right & see what you need & fits your budget & then you'll automatically see where you're heading.

                              Answering the FE, here're my observations for over 4K kms...
                              - Never open up the full throttle even for few seconds, the FE drops significantly
                              - Never rev more than 8-8.5K RPM, which is safe for your engine as well as good FE
                              - It doesn't matter if you ride anywhere between 105-120, as you get almost the same FE; but if you ride anything around 96 Kmph, the FE increase is noticed marginally (say like 31/32 Kmpl)
                              - Always remember to increase the speed gradually (not sudden) to strike a best FE & speed balance; suggestion is to stay at 6K RPM with every gear & then increase to keep around 7-7.5K RPM at 6th gear for the best speeds (can do 115-120) & great FE (yields 30)
                              - You can do 130ish & still get around 27 (sometimes 29 too) but ensure a gradual acceleration like keep not more than 6K RPM at every gear; the acceleration is also linear, good & at the same time quicker & then increase from 6th gear onwards.
                              Last edited by aargee; 09-11-2011, 05:16 PM.
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                              • Originally posted by sreejinair View Post

                                What about the parts availability, I read on xbhp that the CBR guys are not getting the oil filter and all.
                                I personally haven't had any problems with spares like oil and oil filter. If you read that in this thread, then it looks like you're reading old stale posts. I don't think that big parts like fairings and headlight have arrived at most dealers yet. Plus, I had difficulty finding foot pegs around a month ago. They might have arrived by now though...

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