As far as design or vital components (engine/ chassis) are related there are almost no issue.
The quality issues you are concerned about were present mostly in the initial batches.
Most of the issues present now are just skin deep, like minor rusting, fairing gaps etc. (i know you cant overlook such thing specialty in Honda product) but be ready to overlook it as there is very less choice (rather no choice) in this segment.
What most of the owners are concerned about now is unavailability of spares, which will get resolved in some time
The other issue is inconsistency in service quality at different ASC. This can be resolved by finding the best ASC around you.

As far as bull is concerned i think it has its own share of problems, and any ways its known for making the owner a mechanic in due course of time (no hard feelings pls)
Regarding the decision, I think Bulletiers don't look for options, they just buy it...So if you have a Bulletier in you, you'll not look anywhere else what so ever the cons of bullet be...

For rest of the Junta, CBR is the best :-)

Provided limited choice i think the decision should be quite simple ;-)

Engine oil...

I have to get my CBR 1 service done at 650KM.
I was looking for good engine oil for run in. I checked the "Engine Oil" UT, got some info but nothing particular to CBR. So I am asking here:

1. I came to know Mineral oil is best during run in (till 1.5-2K KM)?
2. If i go for Mineral oil at 650 KM, when should i replace oil again (owners manual says it will end another 5000KM )
3. Is 20W40 is best for Bangalore?
4. GULF mineral oil getting lot of praise, will it good for CBR? or what else can be best??
5. Does Honda ASC allows any oil other then Honda oil? (If no all the above effort gone wasted )

Around 2.5 months for front alloy wheel.

Guys - Thanks from my heart!!!

To summarize...
Left Fairings - 23 days
Mudguard - 23 days
Radiator - 23 days
(Sudeep's) Coneset - almost 3 months
(Metal_Maniac's) Coneset - almost 5 months
Front brake lever - 55 days
RVM - 80 days
Alloy wheels - almost 75 days
Fairing parts (xxbomb) - Over 2 months
Chain lube (Rahul) - 2 months

This is really atrocious!!!
Note - Tks xxbomb & Rahul ; have updated here instead of a new post;

Ans 1 By mineral oil, I presume you mean fully synthetic oil. If so, then yes, it is best not only for the initial break-in period but also for the entire life of the engine. It does not lose its molecular structure under stress and nor does it break down as much as petroleum based oils.

Ans 2 Why change the oil at 650 and not at 1200 km as recommended by the manual? You lose out on 550 km of the earlier oil's capacity and the advanced change does not give any real benefits. So, I recommend a change at 1200 kms. The next change, as per the manual is at 5000km i.e. after running for another 4000 kms. Do follow the user manual and not what the mechanic says. After all, the manual has been written by the same engineers who designed the engine, right

Ans 3 The recommended oil grade is 10W30. I do not recommend going for a heavier grade as the load on the engine and gearbox will be higher (to push the oil around). Also, you might experience some heavy gear shifting and loss of fuel efficiency. As it is designed on CAD and manufactured under CAM, the CBR is a light engine with fine tolerances so does not need heavy oils to seal gaps.

Ans 4 Gulf, Motul, Shell et al. I do not see major performance differences in between these brands. I have personally put in Motul 10W30 at the first change i.e. at 1200 kms and my bike is fine.

Ans 5 Generally, the ASC tries to put in the brand which the company buys in bulk in barrels. But if you give them a different oil/specify a different one than what the ASC gives, I don't see any issues with warranty as long as a) the brand is a reputed one and b) it is of the same grade as the recommended one.

Hope this satisfies you...

++1 Very correctly put

+1

Any why to change? Honda giving us a option of Fully Synthetic oil for CBR with same grade 10w30...we can change it to FS...

icemang - I'm not sure if you own a CBR 250R or if you've gone through service manual in addition to owner's manual as most of the answers are

May be you need to go through the Engine Oil thread!!!

Are you talking about owner's manual? Owner's manual says 1st interval is 1000 Km, followed at 6K & then every 6K km there after!!!

Whaaat ; PSR Ji...your attention pls!!!

WTH !!! Its every 6K kms!!!

So who's right? Icemang, mechanics or Honda Engineers

Pls...atleast go through previous posts in this thread ; this topic has been discussed to death; FYI 20W-40 is also HMSI recommended oil grade. I've personally witnessed in the CBR 250R workshop manual.



Sure ? Have you asked the ASC? 'Cause I've not only asked, but, personally witnessed a C250R where they used the engine oil bought by the customer that voids the warranty.

Last but not the least, icemang, pls don't spam the ownership thread just like the offline meets thread. Most importantly, request not to post misleading information to keep the ownership thread clean. Appreciate your cooperation. Tks.

People who used Mineral oil made from Petroleum base , and changing every 1,500 or 2,000 Kms have always been happy with their engines.
Whether Mineral or Synthetic oil change interval must remain the same...it is just that synth oil remain good a little longer than mineral...
Having said that using Fresh oil every 1,500 to 2,000 Kms in engine keeps the moving parts in good nick and the ride much more smooth.
I had switched to Mineral 20W40 in my Karizma and enjoying a very smooth and responsive engine than the 10W30 which led to rough engine and sticky gear shifts.
Of course owners of bikes will defer with my views and are at liberty to stick to oil of their choice.

Tks PSR Ji...requesting to add one more point on the early oil change benefit on the metal shavings for and early oil change before the K mark while we hear a contrary statement saying there's no realy benefit!!!

Don't forget my wait of 2+ months for fairing parts.

Of course on a new engine it is best to do an oil change with FILTER at the first 250 or 300 Kms and then at 750 Kms and then at 1,500 Kms to keep the metal flashes from spoiling the inside of engine...Just my thought

most common think i was wating from 2 month for chain lube

Where are you from? I too am waiting for the front alloy wheel since mine has a dent on it

fuel economy by Bunny Punia.

on full tank he did 352 km after delivery and after filling petrol again it got 10.47 ltr and milage was 33.61 kmpl in NCR

its just too gud
i was not able to get above 25kmph



My 2011 Honda CBR250R: Fuel economy of the CBR250R