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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Guys need your help. I have just got the LED indicators of RS 200, same as the one on Duke. How do I fit them on CBR. The connectors seems to be different. Here is the picture of the Duke 200 indicator.


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      Originally posted by kannanmr16 View Post
      Guys need your help. I have just got the LED indicators of RS 200, same as the one on Duke. How do I fit them on CBR. The connectors seems to be different. Here is the picture of the Duke 200 indicator.


      You will need to install it by some desi juggad like cutting and taping as connectors are different, also you will need to connect resisters in line otherwise new indicators will blink very fast.
      Last edited by Pruthviraj; 01-07-2017, 06:23 PM.

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
        I see, cause in a couple of posts before I read someone got better mileage on normal fuel and Honda throttle oil combo, but yes I will be switching back to speed or the higher grade of fuel, tho my engine oil has only been motul , incase there isn't premium fuel availability ,are fuel additives a good alternative, note this is only when on highways where petrol pumps are hard to come by and don't have premium fuel.
        Yes My Friend Addon Is A Better Option And Even If You Use Premium Petrol. Once In A while One Should Use Fuel Additive Like Addon Supplied By IOC Pumps Ratio Should Be 1ml To 1lt Normal Octane 87 Fuel. One Tank Full Is A Must If You Are Touring Beyond 1000km.

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          Originally posted by Guru Kumar View Post
          Ratio Should Be 1ml To 1lt Normal Octane 87 Fuel
          normal fuel sold in our country is 91 Octane.

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            Originally posted by Guru Kumar View Post
            Yes My Friend Addon Is A Better Option And Even If You Use Premium Petrol. Once In A while One Should Use Fuel Additive Like Addon Supplied By IOC Pumps Ratio Should Be 1ml To 1lt Normal Octane 87 Fuel. One Tank Full Is A Must If You Are Touring Beyond 1000km.
            Guru Anna, why is the fuel additives a must for touring? I've heard of clogged injectors due to using 'premium' fuels in India, so barring one time, I've never used the premium fuels.

            PS : Did you change the coolant to engine ice? Any noticeable benefit?

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              Originally posted by Guru Kumar View Post
              Yes My Friend Addon Is A Better Option And Even If You Use Premium Petrol. Once In A while One Should Use Fuel Additive Like Addon Supplied By IOC Pumps Ratio Should Be 1ml To 1lt Normal Octane 87 Fuel. One Tank Full Is A Must If You Are Touring Beyond 1000km.
              Guru Anna, why is the fuel additives a must for touring? I've heard of clogged injectors due to using 'premium' fuels in India, so barring one time, I've never used the premium fuels.

              PS : Did you change the coolant to engine ice? Any noticeable benefit?

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by leech View Post
                Bike makes a 'thock' noise from the front end when going over medium to hard potholes. The handle isn't hard to move, neither does it stray from its direction if i leave the handlebar. However I've had this sound since the past 3 years. Do I need to lug the Bonda to the SVC to check on the Coneset? What are the symptoms of a faulty Coneset anyway?
                Check if your mudguard reflector and or the fender screws and nuts themselves are tight enough. Secondly, there have been cases where the front totally bottoms and makes a this "thock" as you mentioned which is due to excessive front end dive.

                Originally posted by Pruthviraj View Post
                Uneven feeling while rotating the handle bar, bike pulling to anyone side.
                Uneven steering head play, left/right or bike pulling to one side, or "katak" or "tak" sound when going over a pot hole or hard front end means your coneset or the front bearing race of the T stems have gone for a toss. Get them replaced.

                Cheers!
                VJ
                Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                The girl said, 'NO!'


                And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                THE END

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by leech View Post
                  Guru Anna, why is the fuel additives a must for touring? I've heard of clogged injectors due to using 'premium' fuels in India, so barring one time, I've never used the premium fuels.
                  I've been using these additives (adon P & system g) for a couple of years now on my Duke 200, and I know a few others who use it regularly ( [MENTION=51754]theironhorse99[/MENTION] uses it on his cbr). So far it hasn't caused any negative effect and I can say it makes a small but positive effect in what I have seen from the outside (i.e. throttle response, FE, a bit of 'refinement' on my D200). This is from my experience of using it for around 26k km and other folks have also done similar or more on the odo with no issues of clogging injectors or related issues.

                  In fact around a decade ago, I remember some mechanics advising against these so called 'premium' fuels since they cause gum up of carb, and I personally experienced it after using shell premium fuel on my new Dio for a few months. It ended up gumming and causing the carb to overflow.
                  That' why i've always stuck to normal fuel, and prefer to add the additive myself.. because you never know how long their 'premium' fuel has been sitting in their tanks (due to low sales) and what they have added to it.

                  Another thing that i had done in the past was to use a bit of 2t oil (25ml) to a tank full of fuel (on a 4 stroke like the cbz) on long rides, since i was told it helps with upper cylinder lubrication. never had an issue. 2t oil is designed to burn out with minimal residue and the ratio used in this case is very less to cause any significant build up on occasional uses.
                  Now these additives (adon P & system G) seem to be having some 'lubrication' (you can feel it when you touch it) as well as 'detergent' additives that might possibly be helping keep the deposits to the minimum and give the other benefits as i mentioned earlier.

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                  Originally posted by leech View Post
                  Bike makes a 'thock' noise from the front end when going over medium to hard potholes. The handle isn't hard to move, neither does it stray from its direction if i leave the handlebar. However I've had this sound since the past 3 years. Do I need to lug the Bonda to the SVC to check on the Coneset? What are the symptoms of a faulty Coneset anyway?
                  Can you hold the front brake and rock the bike forward.. do you notice any play in the handle bar?
                  It could be bad bearings in the 'cone-set'. First try to get the steering stem adjusted, if that doesn't fix it.. then you would have to check the cone-set and replace maybe just the ball bearings or the entire cone-set (i.e. the races and bearings)
                  And please get it checked by a mechanic, because such things are better checked on the bike itself and not 'virtually'

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Thanks sid, but the clogged injectors story was due to premium fuels, not additives.

                    It could be coincidence, but the day I used Add-on P, my engine starting leaking oil. It isn't dripping, but residue covered with dust accumulated near the CCT and engine block where it's stamped 249cc. That was almost a year back. It may be a gasket leak, but I'm not in the mood to open up the engine right now. as it is the fuel tank starts creaking when I put pressure on it, coz the mech forgot to tighten them/put in washers properly the last time he opened it up.
                    Last edited by leech; 01-08-2017, 10:55 AM.

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by s1d View Post
                      normal fuel sold in our country is 91 Octane.
                      No My Friend Please Do Your Research.

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                        Originally posted by leech View Post
                        Guru Anna, why is the fuel additives a must for touring? I've heard of clogged injectors due to using 'premium' fuels in India, so barring one time, I've never used the premium fuels.

                        PS : Did you change the coolant to engine ice? Any noticeable benefit?
                        Well Bro It's Been A Year Now I Have Been Using Speed 91 From Bharat Pumps There Is No Gumup Issues Or Any For That Matter Last Full Tank Gave Me A Run Of 397km. Using Addon Fuel Additive Clears Carbon Deposits In Your Throttle Butterfly And As Well As It Clears Injector As My SVC Is Not Equipped With Injector Cleaning Unit I Prefer To Use System G Or Addon But Only On One Full Tank If I'm Touring Beyond 1000km.

                        Engine Oil Is Always 5100 10w30 Motul.

                        Engine Ice Is Doing Excellent.

                        First Difference You Notice Is Once You Park Your Bike And Turn Off. Engine Heat Drops Very Fast.

                        Usually When I Use To Ride In Mumbai Traffic For Couple Of Hrs Due To Heat There Was A Smell From Engine Which Is Disappered.

                        Engine Ice Really Makes The Difference. Whatever They Claim Is Right.

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                          Originally posted by Guru Kumar View Post
                          No My Friend Please Do Your Research.
                          Well, both xbhp, bcm touring, HP retail say the same thing : 91 Ron is the 'minimum' grade petrol available in India. The grade was upgraded some years back from 87 to 91.

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                            Originally posted by leech View Post
                            Well, both xbhp, bcm touring, HP retail say the same thing : 91 Ron is the 'minimum' grade petrol available in India. The grade was upgraded some years back from 87 to 91.
                            Bro That's Wrong Information Please Visit Your Pump And Check With Them.

                            All Premium Petrol Sold By All The Company Is 91 Octane. Some Place In Mumbai You Get 95 And 97 Octane. Last Month I Had Been To Malaysia There To My Surprise I Saw 99 Octane.

                            I Have Used 95 Octane In CBR250R. Engine Was Running Crisp. It Was A Different Feeling All Together. Unfortunately We Don't Get 95 Octane In Madurai. So Some Times I Do That Addon Work.

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                              Originally posted by Guru Kumar View Post
                              Bro That's Wrong Information Please Visit Your Pump And Check With Them.

                              All Premium Petrol Sold By All The Company Is 91 Octane. Some Place In Mumbai You Get 95 And 97 Octane. Last Month I Had Been To Malaysia There To My Surprise I Saw 99 Octane.

                              I Have Used 95 Octane In CBR250R. Engine Was Running Crisp. It Was A Different Feeling All Together. Unfortunately We Don't Get 95 Octane In Madurai. So Some Times I Do That Addon Work.
                              I believe sid was talking about normal fuel, hence I mentioned minimum in quotes. Which means, all the petrol sold in India has to be minimum 91 octane, it can be higher, as you mentioned, but shouldn't go lower than 91.

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                                Originally posted by leech View Post
                                Well, both xbhp, bcm touring, HP retail say the same thing : 91 Ron is the 'minimum' grade petrol available in India. The grade was upgraded some years back from 87 to 91.
                                You are correct. A couple of years ago some smaller towns used to have a lower octane fuel supplied but i believe all that is also now 91.
                                And some of the fuel is blended with ethanol (up to 10%). I've seen this specifically mentioned at a bunk in Coimbatore. So sometimes this ethanol blend might be causing iffy running and ethanol blend is also known to cause more of phase separation (water & fuel separating, causing havoc like corrosion).


                                Originally posted by Guru Kumar View Post
                                Bro That's Wrong Information Please Visit Your Pump And Check With Them.

                                All Premium Petrol Sold By All The Company Is 91 Octane. Some Place In Mumbai You Get 95 And 97 Octane. Last Month I Had Been To Malaysia There To My Surprise I Saw 99 Octane.

                                I Have Used 95 Octane In CBR250R. Engine Was Running Crisp. It Was A Different Feeling All Together. Unfortunately We Don't Get 95 Octane In Madurai. So Some Times I Do That Addon Work.
                                You are mistaken. Regular fuel and some of the premium (like 'Speed' & IOC 'xtrapremium') are just 91 octance fuels with extra additives added.
                                Unless the fuel is specifically mentioned as an higher octane (like Speed 95 Speed 97) it is of 91 octane. And remember just using higher octane is not always good for all vehicles. One of the category of vehicles that benefit from higher octane are the ones that run at a higher compression ratio. So yeh, your cbr and my ktm might like a slightly higher octane fuel.
                                Here are the specs for BS IV


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                                Originally posted by leech View Post
                                Thanks sid, but the clogged injectors story was due to premium fuels, not additives.
                                It could be coincidence, but the day I used Add-on P, my engine starting leaking oil.
                                Clogged injectors is mostly due to bad fuel and one of the reason fuel goes bad is due to sitting for a long time (not necessarily the additives). So just stick to normal fuel and add the additive yourself. System G is safe to use & I use it every other time I fill up.
                                That leak you are seeing has nothing to do with the additive.. get the gasket replaced & to do that you'd have to remove the block.

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