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  • I know this has been discussed on the forum before and i remember reading somewhere that Ninja service manual suggests replacing the radiator if more than 20% fins are bent.

    I had sent my bike for the service,pressure wash led to bent fins,i reported the issue to them,they asked me to come back and they would fix it.
    This is what i got back after the repair


    I see 40% fins bent here and i am concerned how serious it is,i haven't had any overheating issues by now,so i am wondering if i should-
    1)Ask the ASC for a radiator replacement( one person in pune got replacement as earlier told by trustvishwas)
    2)Get on with DIY with a radiator fin comb/pliers(BTW where do i find it)
    3)See some AC repair centre if they can do a better job with the fins.
    4)Leave it like that and forget about it as it wont affect the cooling and wont have any long run leak issues??

    Anyways i am shooting a mail to the honda customercare email...I am not expecting a reply from them....So it would be great if you guys suggest me with any option from the above.

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    • Originally posted by doc_x View Post
      remember reading somewhere that Ninja service manual suggests
      Originally posted by doc_x View Post
      shooting a mail to the honda customercare email...
      I'm confused ; why would you want to report your Ninja's radiator being bent to Honda customer care? Or are you talking about CBR 250R? If its C250R, then why would you want to compare N250R's service manual? Should you be looking into C250R's owner's manual

      @nsengg - Thanks a lot mate Appreciate your help
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      Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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      • Originally posted by doc_x View Post
        I know this has been discussed on the forum before and i remember reading somewhere that Ninja service manual suggests replacing the radiator if more than 20% fins are bent.
        Originally posted by aargee View Post
        I'm confused ; why would you want to report your Ninja's radiator being bent to Honda customer care? Or are you talking about CBR 250R? If its C250R, then why would you want to compare N250R's service manual? Should you be looking into C250R's owner's manual
        Please note that I had quoted workshop manual and owner's manual.
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        • Originally posted by rmchhetri View Post
          Bro, when I said I would have be happy(i)er, does not mean am sad. Happy(i)er comes after happy, so am happy, call me happy singh if you like it

          Oh I Dint know that ! Let me talk in your terms .. If you have paid the whole 1.6 lakhs or 1.9 lakhs .. you deserve to be happier not JUST HAPPY !

          If you are saying that your Bjj bike never needed chain cleaning and lubing and it never showed any signs of rust in 2years time, that is nothing short of a miracle!!! Stick to your miracle bike (I would have done the same and never switched bike )

          Oh why you just look at the chain ? what about the bolts ? Offcourse you need to lube and clean the chain once in every 400 kms ! But I was replying for your kerosene "care" not just for the chain ...you would have never switched the bike ?? well only if you own something you will know the value of it ... not just say for the rest of my life being miracle !


          It is sad you saw rust in the chain in the early days itself, only means it was not lubed! Does not mean the chain is made of rusted iron. If am not mistaken its the same manufacture as chain used in the P220. And yes, the manual suggest chain lubing!! Please go through it. Cleaning with kerosene\ diesel is not in the manual but cleans far better that any commercial cleaner I have tried. Try the combo, you will not complain of chain rusting. And yeah am not saying you have to do it yourself, can also have the same done by you ASC with your free servicing.

          Well most of the members here(including me ) do clean the chain and its still rusted ! ( Its not that it cant rust ... but less than 10 days since I have purchased ) ?? If P220 had the same chain and if I had taken care for 2 years and trust me no signs of rust as such .. then how come the same chain is behaving rough with CBR ? does the chain hate honda or what ? and btw if its the same chain ... I would have been happier but I doubt its not even if it is ... then quality is compensated for HONDA !

          and its not just about chain... even the bolts ... !



          Am a customer and thinking is also very desi/ customer centric trust me. I am one of those customers who waited for 5hours inspecting my CBR250r being serviced, and I intend to do it on every service (if situation permits). That is how much I love my bike. But I don't crib!!
          (Sorry for going OT mod)

          I am one of those owners who waited for atleast 6 months without even testdriving the bike and booked it simple because its "honda" !


          Its not about cribbing mate ..if its just ME its totally a different issue .. if its faced by many its a NEWS ! Recently I have been to the Honda camp and I know how the other owners reacted !




          Oh for the rest of the junta, me got 33Kmpl with 100% city riding
          Congrats and I get 27 in chennai !

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          Last edited by srivaatsav; 10-05-2011, 07:56 PM.

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          • Originally posted by aargee View Post
            I'm confused ; why would you want to report your Ninja's radiator being bent to Honda customer care? Or are you talking about CBR 250R? If its C250R, then why would you want to compare N250R's service manual? Should you be looking into C250R's owner's manual
            Oh my Apologies aargee sir,if you are confused you should go though the post once again then....I thought CBR ownership makes it obvious that i am a CBR owner or do i need to mention it in my every post?
            AND with Ninja i am just making a comparison(e.g. If its with ninja its should be the same for the cbr)
            I hope you get what i am trying to say

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            • Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
              Please note that I had quoted workshop manual and owner's manual.
              Yes sir i remember you making the post,would be great if you could comment on my post with the radiator pic.

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              • Originally posted by doc_x View Post
                thought CBR ownership makes it obvious that i am a CBR owner or do i need to mention it in my every post?
                Saar...you mentioned N250R's manual!!! Wondering why you're comparing the manual of N250R with C250R. OTOH, would the manual of Boxer 150 & Pulsar 150 be the same?

                Originally posted by doc_x View Post
                AND with Ninja i am just making a comparison(e.g. If its with ninja its should be the same for the cbr)
                !!! N250R does 160 Kmph, wonder if C250R does that; N250R yields not more than 25-26 Kmpl if ridden at 120 Kmph, wonder if C250R yields anything in similar or lesser; N250R has a run in period stating RPM limits, wonder if C250R has any such thing on RPM limits. Where's the similarity other than both of them belong to sportsbike & 250cc & sold world wide?

                Originally posted by doc_x View Post
                I hope you get what i am trying to say
                I got it, but NEVER ever compare (or rather confuse) between the manual of one bike over another.

                Anyway, let's come to the point - the fins getting bent, if I were you...just make soft ruckus with ASC (since its their mistake) & get the grill replaced under warranty; never settle to get the issue fixed (do this only if you've lot of time)

                Meanwhile, take a short ride for about 200-300 Kms (if not keep the speeds in 3 digits & make a 100 Kms run with very less breaks) & keep a tab on the temp guage; at no point, remember, at no ever point, the bars should go beyond 3 & should remain only at 3. If that were the case, then you're safe.

                If you want fun, make a short run & keep visiting the ASC, keep making noises (very politely ofcourse, Ji will teach you how ) for new grill under warranty; if they insist you to test for increase in engine temperature, never argue on those terms, simply state, you're not happy esp when the bike is new & keep pestering them for a new one.
                Last edited by aargee; 10-05-2011, 08:14 PM.
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                Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
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                • Originally posted by doc_x View Post
                  I know this has been discussed on the forum before and i remember reading somewhere that Ninja service manual suggests replacing the radiator if more than 20% fins are bent.

                  I had sent my bike for the service,pressure wash led to bent fins,i reported the issue to them,they asked me to come back and they would fix it.
                  This is what i got back after the repair
                  [ATTACH]49700[/ATTACH]

                  I see 40% fins bent here and i am concerned how serious it is,i haven't had any overheating issues by now,so i am wondering if i should-
                  1)Ask the ASC for a radiator replacement( one person in pune got replacement as earlier told by trustvishwas)
                  2)Get on with DIY with a radiator fin comb/pliers(BTW where do i find it)
                  3)See some AC repair centre if they can do a better job with the fins.
                  4)Leave it like that and forget about it as it wont affect the cooling and wont have any long run leak issues??

                  Anyways i am shooting a mail to the honda customercare email...I am not expecting a reply from them....So it would be great if you guys suggest me with any option from the above.
                  Hi docx,

                  Why not follow ALL of your options in their own separate threads?! Try all the options concurrently and the one which works best would be the area to concentrate on.

                  About Serial 4, it would definitely affect the cooling, especially on an engine as high tech sensitive and short-stroke as the CeeBee's.

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                  • Originally posted by aargee View Post
                    Saar...you mentioned N250R's manual!!! Wondering why you're comparing the manual of N250R with C250R. OTOH, would the manual of Boxer 150 & Pulsar 150 be the same?

                    I never mentioned that i am comparing the whole manual,just the radiator damage part as i believe that X% damage rendering any radiator useless should apply to all the bikes/cars and the value of X i got from the ninja manual as posted by trustvishwas....


                    !!! N250R does 160 Kmph, wonder if C250R does that; N250R yields not more than 25-26 Kmpl if ridden at 120 Kmph, wonder if C250R yields anything in similar or lesser; N250R has a run in period stating RPM limits, wonder if C250R has any such thing on RPM limits. Where's the similarity other than both of them belong to sportsbike & 250cc & sold world wide?

                    Ive seen videos of stock CBR doing 174 on speedo(reduce the 8% +ve speedo error....n u got 160) and as mentioned earlier i never compared the two bike or their manuals....just compared their liquid cooling(i.e.radiator)


                    I got it, but NEVER ever compare (or rather confuse) between the manual of one bike over another.

                    Anyway, let's come to the point - the fins getting bent, if I were you...just make soft ruckus with ASC (since its their mistake) & get the grill replaced under warranty; never settle to get the issue fixed (do this only if you've lot of time)
                    Thanks and that was all what i wanted to know

                    Meanwhile, take a short ride for about 200-300 Kms (if not keep the speeds in 3 digits & make a 100 Kms run with very less breaks) & keep a tab on the temp guage; at no point, remember, at no ever point, the bars should go beyond 3 & should remain only at 3. If that were the case, then you're safe.
                    Ok...gonna try it this weekend.
                    Reply in bold

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                    • Originally posted by aargee View Post
                      Indepth knowledge is gained with experience; this is why its called Ownership thread, otherwise, it would be called REVIEWER'S thread!!!


                      Once again incorrect!!! Try switching to FS because I DID & had enough beating (once again PSR ji knows).


                      You mean for C250R? Did you ask the mechanic, SA or head of service incharge? Because, I'd asked head of service incharge, HMSI engineer & the mechanic at different point in time; I own a C250R & hence their answer was unanimous - will void the warranty!!!

                      All said, the biggest joke is...



                      Quite important DK; I'll be watching closely for your inputs; reason being...awaiting spares & want to see how long does it take to bring (if at all any) spares that are not in stock.
                      Thanks for the reply, will keep your info handy.

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                      • Originally posted by doc_x View Post
                        Ive seen videos of stock CBR doing 174 on speedo(reduce the 8% +ve speedo error....n u got 160) and as mentioned earlier i never compared the two bike or their manuals....just compared their liquid cooling(i.e.radiator)
                        Don't tell me you believed those!!! Question time...
                        - Were they Indian or Thai makes (hope you know the power & valve differences)
                        - We don't know yet if they use power box or stock (though claiming stock); I too witnessed 172, but clearly states they used power box.

                        @Icemang - buddy; no offense meant.

                        Edit - Just noticed, @doc_x - no appologies needed; peace
                        Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                        Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                        ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                        • Originally posted by Sanketh View Post
                          Just bringing up an "old" topic here, about the top speed.
                          Here's a link for a guy who managed 174!!! Damn. 3 more than me.

                          Top speed Honda CBR 250r stock (174km/h) - YouTube

                          You get a glimpse of the road in the video, and I guess it's fairly flat.
                          I think Sanketh says he has done 171.....lets ask him if he has a Thai made model or Stock Indian.BTW ive myself done upto 157.

                          Originally posted by aargee View Post
                          Don't tell me you believed those!!! Question time...
                          - Were they Indian or Thai makes (hope you know the power & valve differences)
                          Ya and the difference is just of 0.6bhp.

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                          • Originally posted by doc_x View Post
                            I think Sanketh says he has done 171.....lets ask him if he has a Thai made model or Stock Indian.BTW ive myself done upto 157.
                            Like I said before, it depends on the gradient; try doing on the same road on the other direction, you may not be able to do 157 again. Rider's weight also does matter here. Try shifting to 6th at 120 & see what's the top speed you get

                            Apart from Sanketh, someone else also did 171; IIRC its between Salem-K'Giri & I'm pretty confident the gradient works favourable towards K'Giri + he had less fuel. Pls go back few pages where there were hell a lot of discussion on increasing speed beyond 140.

                            Originally posted by doc_x View Post
                            Ya and the difference is just of 0.6bhp.
                            1 Bhp
                            Last edited by aargee; 10-05-2011, 10:13 PM.
                            Skill is what keeps you on a Motorcycle
                            Awareness + Skill is what keeps you out of harm's way
                            ATGATT + Awareness + Skill means you might Live To Ride another day

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                            • Originally posted by doc_x View Post
                              I know this has been discussed on the forum before and i remember reading somewhere that Ninja service manual suggests replacing the radiator if more than 20% fins are bent.......... the above.
                              Even I am having such a radiator (nearly 25% bent) for a long time now, due to the same pressure wash . Still now I have not faced any heating issues, but i fear during soaring summer heat and extreme riding this would show it effects. I tried fixing it myself but could only fix slightly bent fins not the ones completely bent. I hope fixing it with patience will work. Any how much does a new one costs any idea?

                              And can anyone from here suggest a good mat black aerosol spray if you had tried? I find the mat finish on engine and frame chipping in few spots. And how would it be if i finish the wheels mat black , has anyone tried already ?
                              Explore the unexplored!

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                              • Best place to ask

                                Is Honda indeed coming up with HRC colors for the 250?

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