HMSI MD contact info

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know Mr. N.K. Rattan's mail id ? Or someone at that level.. My CBR's been in the dealer's garage for 3 months now (Cochin) and still the spares seem to be a dream.. Had met with an accident in July.. Been calling and mailing different ppl at HMSI but with no luck in getting my bike repaired. It was an awful sight when I noticed that some parts of my ride have even begun to rust..

I seriously don't know what to do. Before approaching the consumer court, thought of giving a last shot to the heads at HMSI (Rattan - Head of S&M, Shinji Aoyama - CEO, and the like).. Came upon these ids when I googled - [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] - but they don't work..

Guys, need u'r inputs pls..

Srivaastav, read u'r post that u had met Mr. Rattan.. Any contact info that might be of help?

kurtrules - No probs;

I guess so; they did the same service (water wash to my specs), lubing & chain adjustment & didn't charge my anything

Things don't work that way; is it EVM Honda? If yes, PM me your REAL issue with complete background, let me see what I can do for you.

guys am meeting some people from honda on 12th morning from tech,quality & service department.

if you have any generic or specific issue please PM me in the following format

name:
date of delivery:
kms done:
type of riding :highway,city,offroads etc
location:
contact no:
problem/issues/views :

will take a print & try to put our views across to them

Ohkay..
I'll try popping up the front, now that my bike's front is comparatively lighter.

Thanks for the tip-off, friend. I have managed some good stoppie angles, but since I have a broken mudguard I guess it didn't touch anywhere. Ne'ertheless, will keep an eye next time. Thanks

P.S. Did I mention your lid looks nice with the bike?

No, it's not EVM. It's Muthoot Honda, Cochin.

Does anyone know if the rubber thing on the handle(middle part, plugs into the T cone) is compatible with any other makes around?...

Mine is cracked and am afraid water may seep in if i let it as it is..

Anyone seen this around?

@Dreamseller - IIRC, its up for sale isn't it? Priced ridiculously though

Yessir!! Two freaking lacs..!! For this taxi colored bike!

Seriously, there's some point where one should draw a line with changes on a vehicle. Although, again, to each his own.

Clip-on mods for the CBR

Hi there,

A number of owners have asked me for details of the clip-on mods that I installed on my bike. So I am posting the same here. This was MY solution for MY problem so please don’t flame me if it does not agree with your views.

On the drive from Pune to Rajkot, I found that it was only the riding posture of the bike that prevented it from becoming a superb highway tourer. You can read what I went thru in the “Posting run – Pune to Rajkot” thread. I can tell you that the discomfort, the pain was not funny; I was feeling the after effects for about 3 or 4 days. So I knew that I had to find a solution. Some options that I mulled over were:

Option A.
Take out the clip-ons and substitute them with a classical tubular handlebar. The clamps for this were available in the USA and I would have been able to source them. Reason for being discarded? Firstly, there was just not enough slack available in the various cables to compensate for the increased length needed for the higher handlebar and secondly, it would have been difficult if not impossible to conceal the four holes drilled into the base from the ASC during services resulting in a voided warranty.

Option B
Increase the height of the clip-ons themselves in some way or the other. I pondered over this option as it was the only one left.

The Design I sketched out a solid cylindrical shape of such a height as would take up the meagre available slack in the cables. One end of the cylinder was to be threaded as per the threads of the tube end covers (the dull aluminium covers with a bolt head on top). The other end would be left smooth and would form the mounting point of the clip-ons. I would prefer solid aluminium for the cylinders but was sceptical of its availability in Rajko,t not to mention the substantially higher cost.

One major problem was of giving the front brake fluid reservoir adequate clearance from the low windscreen for a lock to lock rotation of the handle. I was desperate enough to contemplate cutting the windscreen to a point below the arc described by the fluid reservoir as it rotated on the clip-on. Fortunately, this drastic step was not required as will be seen later.

The Workshop From my enquiries, I found that there was a proliferation of metal working workshops in Rajkot. To my great good fortune, one of my clerks had a biker brother who in turn knew a workshop that had done such odd jobs earlier.

I contacted the owner and showed him my sketches. Now, this chap was just about a 10th pass kind of a guy; he had taken over the workshop from his father and so had had to discontinue his education. But man, what a guy! He had an absolutely razor sharp intellect and was lightning fast on the uptake. He had understood the issue within mere minutes of my explanation and had already pointed out the windscreen related issue. We decided to tackle that problem when we came to it.

The Fabrication Gopalbhai (Gopal Parmar was the workshop chap) did not have solid aluminium cylinders and convinced me to go in for a mild steel setup which he would then chrome plate for a smooth finish.

He then proceeded to cut one length of MS pipe close to but wider than the required diameter and then worked it on his lathe to the required diameter. Next, the threads of the tube top were obtained with a threading tool and these correct threads was cut into one end of the cylinder. Some grinding with initially rough then smooth emery paper obtained a smooth, heavy, well made cylinder, threaded at one end and smooth over the remainder part.

We then proceeded to screw this into the tube end. A little more fine finishing with the emery paper and the cylinder was an easy fit. Mind you, Gopalbhai had kept the chrome plating in mind and so, the cylinder was just an easy not a snug fit.

A second cylinder was machined using the dimensions of the first and screwed on to the other tube end.

After this, we attached the clip-ons. They fitted well; the only hindrance was the windscreen. Time for a brainwave! While we were turning the handle to the right and left, I had had to FLEX the uppermost part of the windscreen outwards to give the fluid reservoir some space. That was it! We had to find a way to keep the top end of the windscreen stretched outwards on a permanent basis yet the solution had to lend itself to quick removal. We threw around solutions using a heat gun etc but all of them were too invasive and most importantly from the warranty point of view, completely irremovable. The solution came to us by way of a small rod of mild steel.

Very soon, we had machined the rod of solid mild steel of a small diameter, threaded it INTERNALLY at both ends to accept a chromed bolt, stretched the windscreen a bit, fitted this rod and screwed in the bolts. Voila! Now, there was adequate clearance and the handle could rotate lock to lock without any hindrance.

Two weeks later, the parts came back from chrome plating and boy, did they look good. After they were fitted, it looked like an OEM job and not like an aftermarket fitment at all. The windscreen rod was a bit naff but I could live with it.

800 odd kms and few highway blasts at triple digits later, everything is holding fine, there is no rattling, no slippage. If anything, the lean-in on turns has improved.


The Dimensions

Rod length: 5cm Rod dia: 3.5cm Threads pitch: a little >1mm


The Result The change in the posture has been profound. Where earlier I could not ride for more than maybe 20 odd minutes without the pain starting to creep in, here I was going from Rajkot to Ahmedabad on a 2 and half hour ride and very little pain in the forearms and in the wrists. It is still not as comfy as a normal commuter bike or a tourer and never will be. But there is a definite, manifold improvement which is worth the trouble I went to for this mod.

The Cost The total cost (material, chrome plating, electricity, labour etc) was Rs 2200/- I did not haggle with the workshop guy as I had heard that he delivered quality material and that his work was good.

The Removal Just unscrew the extensions with a wrench, put on the original aluminium caps, unbolt the metal rod and the bike is ready for the ASC. The holes in the windscreen are too minor a point for the ASC to get worked up about.

For those interested in getting the mod made from Rajkot, Gopalbhai is willing to courier the mod to the owner with added costs for transportation.

The address:

Gopalbhai Parmar
Practical Automobiles,
In front of Hotel Suryakant,
Gondal Road,
Rajkot
Mobile:09824700742

Few objections here, it is not that difficult to lift the front unless the rear is slipping (wet ground) or you are trying sitting on the tank. And in my observation that front no. plate wouldn't touch the fender under hard braking or dive. Even if under extereme dive it would touch the trye directly just missing the fender and not the fender If i am not wrong.

And happily completed the 10K kms mark yesterday and my odo reads 10175kms now and I am planning to do an oil change early before 3rd service (@12K) after agreeing with my SVC and no oil change in my 3rd service. Hopefully that should be fine. This time trying FS castrol power 1 10W50.

Also I am taking my beloved to the track this weekend , first track day for me and my CBR! Excited!!

Shouldn't that be a double esther? Keep us posted & pls keep an eye on the engine oil level for every 100 Kms for first 500 Kms & post us the update. I'm keen to watch this.

@arjunsuthan - I'm sry; can't do much with Muthoot Honda.

@Dreamseller - Lol!!! on Taxi colored

@Icemang - Though I do not encourage mods from stock engineering, I appreciate your efforts to the mod + the efforts posting here; good work

OT - @xxbomb - why did you change your avatar? The previous one was pretty nice & most importantly perfect match to your ID

^Whats wrong with the current babe?..

strikepackage - Avoid the SMS language unless you want the post to be deleted my mods; I'd hard time understanding what you're trying to convey!!! It seems like you're thanking RG & Icemang for your fall

Regarding the sound...sry, I'm unable to understand clearly from your post

Regarding the engine oil, how many Kms have you clocked since your last engine oil change? Was that with or w/o engine oil filter change?

Surya Honda are comptetent guys too, HMSI usually doesn't encourage to switch ASC's from what I've observed.