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**shivaprasad.ms** · 10-21-2011, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by vkuchhal View Post

@tazz: why do you want re-ignite the chain reaction for comparison between the two bikes.

CBR and Ninja are best in the league of its own.. Lets keep it this way. and stop comparing.

I second this. Ninja is a specialist while CBR is a general-ist

**piyush2112** · 10-21-2011, 11:28 AM

Engine Roughness

Hi All,

The engine has become a little rough (ODO close to 3.1K).
When i went to Sapphire honda they checked and confirmed that there is roughness and attributed it to shim but as they did not have shims so they told me to contact them back in next few weeks.
Anyone aware of any other ASC (in bangalore) who might have shims?
Also my bike makes sound (from front breaks i guess) when i move for the office in the morning (the handle should be totally turned towards the left side). Sapphire already opened and cleaned the disc break to fix it but the noise is still there.
Any idea what the noise might me be?

Thanks in advance

Regards
Piyush

**aargee** · 10-21-2011, 11:49 AM

@Piyush - The brake noise might disappear if the pads are cleaned up, but with the squeaking (assume) noise from the handle/steering column, it MAY be a faulty coneset OR just a little lubing might suffice. But, consult with Sudeep before approaching your ASC.

**sudeepnbr** · 10-21-2011, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by piyush2112 View Post

Also my bike makes sound (from front breaks i guess) when i move for the office in the morning (the handle should be totally turned towards the left side).

I didn't understand the highlighted part.

Originally posted by aargee View Post

@Piyush - The brake noise might disappear if the pads are cleaned up, but with the squeaking (assume) noise from the handle/steering column, it MAY be a faulty coneset OR just a little lubing might suffice.

+1

Piyush, please confirm if this from the brakes or from the handle/steering region.
If its from brakes, its just a small job. It would just take 5-10 mins to open the brakes and clean the brake pads. If the problem is with the cone-set, then it would require either replacement or some adjustment and lubing.
If you can't figure out, take it to Sapphire (JP Nagar) and talk to Zeeshan. AFAIK, he is the best CBR 250R mechanic in Bangalore. My cone-set was replaced 2 days back. He knows me well (You can give me reference as well).

**tazz** · 10-21-2011, 01:03 PM

Originally posted by vkuchhal View Post

@tazz: why do you want re-ignite the chain reaction for comparison between the two bikes.

CBR and Ninja are best in the league of its own.. Lets keep it this way. and stop comparing.

You must have thought that I wanted to ignite the which is the best issue, which has been discussed to death here.

But thats not the case.

I just found this news a bit surprising and interesting so I though of sharing with you guys.
Honestly tell me would you rather not have known about this news at all?

I dont know about you guys, but I was a bit surprised with the results

**drarchit** · 10-21-2011, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Advice #1 - Read owner's manual
Advice #2 - Reread owner's manual

Pls do not insult the bike!!!

Go for engine oil change when you observe the roughness in the engine & not specific to anything on ODO.

i am not insulting the bike...i respect her....no need to tell me

just wanted to know can i go for first service at 500 kms then at 3000 kms and then at 5500 kms so on.....in service manual they say 1000,6000.....i wanted to say can i follow the same cycle as that of r15....service at every 3000 kms...

**atul_chang** · 10-21-2011, 02:32 PM

2 Brothers

Appending a Video of 2 borthers exhaust on the bike for those of you who might be interested
MVI 0461 - YouTube

**vkuchhal** · 10-21-2011, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by shivaprasad.ms View Post

I second this. Ninja is a specialist while CBR is a general-ist

CBR is not a generalist.. i do not believe that.. rather i applaud HONDA for a nice 250cc single cylinder engine which is capable to give a head to head competition to a 27 year old evolving bike (N250).

Originally posted by tazz View Post

You must have thought that I wanted to ignite the which is the best issue, which has been discussed to death here.

But thats not the case.

I just found this news a bit surprising and interesting so I though of sharing with you guys.
Honestly tell me would you rather not have known about this news at all?

I dont know about you guys, but I was a bit surprised with the results

I think everyone will be surprised with the results.. that shows 22 N250 defeated by ONE CBR... very surprising..

**niranjanvaidya** · 10-21-2011, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by tazz View Post

So i hear a video of cbr250 vs ninja 250r is doing the rounds on the forums...

Well here is something to counter that point of view

Check this out, these guys raced a 100% stock cbr250 engine and claimed to beat 22 ninja 250r in CMRA E superstock series by 5 seconds.

And after that the same bike won the CMRA 2 hour endurance race by a lap.

Source :- Race Winner! - Honda CBR250R Forum : Honda CBR 250 Forums

EX250 = kawasaki ninja 250

Maybe its the rider and not the ride. I am just reading this with an open mind.

The EX250 that is sold in US is a carburetor equipped Ninja that produces 26 Bhp. The ones sold here are Fuel Injected ones that make 33 Odd Bhp.

The rider that competed on the CBR is an expert and has participated in at least 4-5 different events on larger bikes on the same weekend - meaning, familiarity of track.

With a horsepower advantage of just 2-3 Bhp (EX250 to CBR) to, it all boils down to rider talent.

**sudeepnbr** · 10-21-2011, 04:14 PM

Wanted to share a good news.
Our Bangalore CBR Riders group on facebook has crossed 100 members today!

And some of us from the group are riding to Nandi Hills this Sunday morning. Others are invited as well.

Originally posted by drarchit View Post

in service manual they say 1000,6000.....i wanted to say can i follow the same cycle as that of r15....service at every 3000 kms...

Every bike is different the way it is build and what is inside it. Hence they have a different Service Cycle.
Why do you wanna follow R15's service cycle for CBR? They've mentioned that service cycle for a reason.
It's like saying, this t-shirt fits my younger brother, so I'll wear the same t-shirt. [Sorry if it was a crappy comparison, didn't get examples]

**titanic4u** · 10-21-2011, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by drarchit View Post

can i go for first service at 500 kms then at 3000 kms and then at 5500 kms so on.....in service manual they say 1000,6000.....

Look buddy, if you ask here, we will just say, follow the Manual. This is what i or others(few, who i know) are doing.

Originally posted by drarchit View Post

i wanted to say can i follow the same cycle as that of r15....service at every 3000 kms...

No offense, you can go every 1000kms also, if you got lots of money,

(Aap din main 2 baar brush karo ya 10 baar, result will be same after a certain time,

)

**tazz** · 10-21-2011, 05:30 PM

Dyno chart of N250 (green) and CBR250 (red)

Look at the power outputs for both the bikes, ninja has a typical linear output (nothing surprising here, N250 are known for this).

And if we compare that with the cbr it looks like there is a significant bump in the power output between 5k and 6k rpms.

Do you guys feel a bump in power after 5000 rpms?

**aargee** · 10-21-2011, 06:08 PM

Minor update - Finally HMSI had shipped the front sprocket & it has reached the dealer yesterday, but wait...if there's perfectness then its not HMSI!!! The rubber damper on the swing arm hasn't reached yet. On speaking with few folks they seem to have dispatched through flight (God only knows) & it should be with the dealer any moment starting tomorrow. So with the anticipation that things would get fixed soon, I've left the bike for service with the ASC. Have specifically asked to write down about 23-25 points to be inspected with specially instructed not to wash the bike completely, but just to clean the radiator while taking care not to bend the fins, not once, but warned several times.

The C250R mechanic is expected to work on it tomorrow & hopefully, I get the bike back in a week's time.

I'm already at the height of frustration; let the ASC do one additional thing other than what I instructed & HMSI had it this time; I'm not only walking to court, will put the bike for sale or simply return it back!!! I'd enough with C250R, its no longer putting a smile on my face!!!

Originally posted by titanic4u View Post

(Aap din main 2 baar brush karo ya 10 baar, result will be same after a certain time,

)

ROTFL

!!! +1

**Binoy** · 10-21-2011, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Minor update - Finally HMSI had shipped the front sprocket & it has reached the dealer yesterday, but wait...if there's perfectness then its not HMSI!!! The rubber damper on the swing arm hasn't reached yet. On speaking with few folks they seem to have dispatched through flight (God only knows) & it should be with the dealer any moment starting tomorrow. So with the anticipation that things would get fixed soon, I've left the bike for service with the ASC. Have specifically asked to write down about 23-25 points to be inspected with specially instructed not to wash the bike completely, but just to clean the radiator while taking care not to bend the fins, not once, but warned several times.

The C250R mechanic is expected to work on it tomorrow & hopefully, I get the bike back in a week's time.

I'm already at the height of frustration; let the ASC do one additional thing other than what I instructed & HMSI had it this time; I'm not only walking to court, will put the bike for sale or simply return it back!!! I'd enough with C250R, its no longer putting a smile on my face!!!

You just ordered for the front sprocket only? Does it come in pack(front & rear sprocket + chain)? Changing these three at a time is a good idea i think

.

**darkknight** · 10-21-2011, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by atul_chang View Post

Appending a Video of 2 borthers exhaust on the bike for those of you who might be interested
MVI 0461 - YouTube

it doesnt produce the vroom vroom sound even after paying 25 k .....

I seen a mechanic do the same with some very big set up below the seat & the bike is sounding great

now it growls vroom vroom & even hayabusa posers are surprised in my locality

now everyone is standing in queue at the mechanic with their bike from tvs 50 to hayabusa for vroom vroom.....

the mechanic charges anywhere from 40k to 1 L depending upon your intelligence ....

Sms me your number & I will sms you mine if you want discount....

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