Aargee, why should the caliper kit be BYBRE? It is Nissin as told by him and is perfect. Its just that the master cylinder kit is mismatched. His is a ABS bike and the caliper kit and the master cylinder all should be NISSIN.


Welcome Ratan Prabhu! Good to see you here

Glad my posts were of help; enjoy the ride & keep sharing your ownership experience with us

Seeing is believing I don't want to jump into conclusion that the caliper kit is Nissin & the master cylinder is BYBRE. If that is the case, I would suggest alurysharad2008 to take the pics of his CBR's brakes & caliper kit & write to auto magazines like Auto India or Bike India stating how the dealers are playing!!!

BAMBI143's points are perfect.

I really think this is needed because we can't take this amount of ignorance after paying a premium of 1.6L or 1.9L.

I'm scared of svcs beacause they proved themselves of screwing perfect bikes all over india and also not being able to solve any problems faced.
Don't know when honda will stop turning deaf ears. Just having an extra bay for cbr in svc doesn't mean they are taking extra care of the bike.

CBR 250R is a nearly perfect bike IMO for the purpose it is designed.

Two things are immediately needed,i.e,extensive quality checks when the bike comes out of factory and after sales service which seems to have turned into a joke.

My question is for guys who own CBR 250r with ABS

On wet roads, if u do hard braking , does the tyres skid (wheel lock)... it does skid for me when i apply the rear brake very hard (no guts to pull front brake fully
in rains)

the brakes are good no doubt .. but the rear does skid on hard braking in the rains or on gravels.. or is it just in my case ?

Your abs bike is locking up? what speeds?

If you apply just the rear brake you will end up locking the wheel.

Try using both the brakes there should not be a problem with applying the front brake as the tyres will do their job. You have to be careful with partly wet or damp roads those are quite tricky but you will get the hang of it once you start using the brakes more often.

To all people complaining about the grip offered by contigo tyres let me tell you my experience on pretty much brand new tyres hardly been scrubbed in. I rode my bike from bangalore to chikmangalur through heavy rains maintaining speeds of over 120 through out and they performed perfectly fine no issues with grip or braking hard to avoid extra slow drivers in the wet. There were some brief hairy moments through in the twisties when i got up in the ghats but i guess i was pushing too hard on moist roads and the tyres were loosing traction partially and regained grip pretty soon. Soon enough to keep me from crashing.

I have a std bike no abs.

Just trust the tyres a bit more and practice practice practice Yes there are better tyres available but these are not all that bad as some people have been complaining.

Why an ABS will lock up for rear ?? Any conclusion to this??

AFAIK ABS works on sensor and it works regardless of front or rear, sensor on any part of wheel locks then ABS function kicks in, So i am little septical on this comment!!

Please correct me friend, if needed!!

ABS have antilock in its name and honda charges quite a premium for this feature .. AFAIK it will never let wheel lock happen be it front or rear..

I trusted alurysharad2008 for saying this,


Do you really think writting to a magazine would be any help? If this is taken further, the assembly team may blame SVC for changing it. The SVC will say it was company error. Or they might accuse the owner for not checking it during delivery or even changing it after delivery just to spoil the companies reputation. Whatever it is, Alurysharad, you can post all the detailed pics and lets see what the actual setup is. (If the caliper kit is also bybre, then how is it ABS? Or has Bybre started supplying ABS kit now?)


Somen, the CBR250r has a C-ABS and not just ABS. AFAIK, in c-abs, pressing just the rear brake does not trigger the abs unit until and unless it senses a rear wheel lock, and only after that, the unit kicks in activating the front brakes and modulating both brakes accordingly. If you press the front brake lever, it works like normal abs.
Ratan, avoid using only the rear brake. Use both, with the front as a larger ratio. Also search for braking tips and bike dynamics when braking and you'l understand it all.

thank you friends for the replies..

there was no wheel lock before monsoons .. i mean , even if i stand on the rear brake pedal (exaggeration) , the wheel wont lock up... but on wet surface, it skids.. only when applied very strongly though..

i have read many times that the braking power should be 70 : 30 ratio..
70% braking power should come from front brake..

i follow the same method.. but on wet surface , i apply the brakes like 30:70, here 30% being the front brake..

Finally I got it.

buddy read what Ratan has written.

"it does skid for me when i apply the rear brake very hard"

That is why i asked is your abs bike locking up which would mean the abs isn't working isn't it.

Thanks for the lesson on ABS though

the ABS is definitely working because the rear tyre never locked on dry surfaces on very hard braking.. but on wet roads, it is not 100% effective.. or maybe only in my case

What works on dry should work on wet because all the abs is doing is monitoring the rotation of the wheel when braking and when it detects that the rotation is about to stop it should reduce the pressure on the calipers to stop the wheel from not moving. If it is working in any other way get it checked.

I doubt here friend, Actuall Combined ABS works when bike is in motion, as soon as you apply the brake in motion the hydrolic pressure is sent to input sensor and indirect goes to ECU, which in turns directs the force to front and rear at a time, if pressed further and wheel is about to lock then the speed sensor send this data to ECU and ECU activates the input sensor to divert the hydrolic pressure to rear power motor and front power motor

And it works same for front as well as rear!!
Actually C ABS don't wait for wheels to lock to act like other ABS.

+1; premium or not, its totally unacceptable if plays with Nissin & BYBRE units. Anyway, let him post the said pics & then we can continue.

No...Bang right!!!

Lol


Writing to magazine will only be secondary task, but primary will be to hang with ASC & HMSI to get that thing fixed. Once things are fixed, entire incident has to be put up in the magazine.

Err...its still incorrect

Clearing the myth of ABS...ABS stands for AntiLOCK Braking System which means, its kicks in only when the wheels are locking until which ABS is ineffective.

So you absolutely have to do nothing with ABS; its very useful on wet surfaces & you don't have to apply the brakes with the fear of wheels locking up, you can simply apply the brakes as if you're applying on dry tarmac & ABS takes care of the rest.