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  • Originally posted by kpvision View Post
    Hi Guys,
    Friday is the date day for delivery!. I went for PDI check today. Side fairing was replaced as promised. Windshield is yet to be replaced, but promised that it will hapen.
    Couldn't read the Odo as battery is not yet connected. Sales were assuring me that it will be less than 5km and it is 2013 model. Registration is tomorrow, I am being reasonable and believing them (hope my trust works). Was not happy with condition of radiator fins, I saw at least 50 fins bent. Sales guy was reluctant to change it and convinced me saying that, changing would need fairing removal etc. Don't know if I am taken for a ride. At this rate, I have to call the service in-charge on Friday and see if coolant and oil is in place. This buying experience is not as pleasant as I would like.
    Yours
    ~
    First congrats bro And btw why do u want to buy it even after knowing that Radiator fin's are bent ?? Are you getting any offers??? why dont you ask them for another one ?? just curious to know

    Cheers
    Its better to sweat than bleed!! "AGATT "

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    • Originally posted by siddharthsure View Post
      First congrats bro And btw why do u want to buy it even after knowing that Radiator fin's are bent ?? Are you getting any offers??? why dont you ask them for another one ?? just curious to know

      Cheers
      Thanks. I told them to replace, but was told that it involves fairing removal (guess 15 min job?). This, I momentarially thought, they will ruin the fairing. Basically
      I was talked out of it, saying that it is OK. I don't know what would be the impact on heat dissipation, though I would like all of them to be OK without bending and touching others.
      They have no other ABS black model, means they have to remove from other STD version and fit it .
      ~shifting at 6K RPM

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      • Originally posted by kpvision View Post
        Thanks. I told them to replace, but was told that it involves fairing removal (guess 15 min job?). This, I momentarially thought, they will ruin the fairing. Basically
        I was talked out of it, saying that it is OK. I don't know what would be the impact on heat dissipation, though I would like all of them to be OK without bending and touching others.
        They have no other ABS black model, means they have to remove from other STD version and fit it .
        If i would have been in your shoes, then i would ask them to replace the radiator and then get delivery. Even if want to wait a little more !
        Removing and fixing the fairing would take 60 mins approx.

        In my view. when you are paying for a full cup of tea, why get half cup ?
        Last edited by ganesh_bbr; 02-21-2013, 01:40 AM.

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        • Originally posted by kpvision View Post
          Thanks. I told them to replace, but was told that it involves fairing removal (guess 15 min job?). This, I momentarially thought, they will ruin the fairing. Basically
          I was talked out of it, saying that it is OK. I don't know what would be the impact on heat dissipation, though I would like all of them to be OK without bending and touching others.
          They have no other ABS black model, means they have to remove from other STD version and fit it .
          removing both rise fairing is a 10 mins job and taking out all coolant. replacing a radiator and filling it back again with coolant would take another 20 mins max..
          do not take that bike which has fins bend already.

          first of all .. how did the fins got bent if the bike is not used ??

          and 50 ?? aint that a big number. who knows whats the story behind. i would suggest be patient. ask them to get another bike all together else take it from another showroom.
          "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

          RE Bullet 1977 - Current
          RX-100 1995 - Current
          CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
          Activa 2004 - Current
          CBR 250R 2012 - Current
          Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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          • Originally posted by kpvision View Post
            Basically I was talked out of it, saying that it is OK. I don't know what would be the impact on heat dissipation, though I would like all of them to be OK without bending and touching others.
            They have no other ABS black model, means they have to remove from other STD version and fit it .
            Buddy, if you have already waited this long for the delivery, I am pretty sure you wouldn't mind waiting an hour or two extra to get the radiator replaced. 50% fins damaged in a brand-new, showroom-stocked bike is in no way acceptable, especially for a premium bike. It shows the carelessness in handling by the dealers. And what's with the Odo? Why are they not allowing you to check the odo & electricals? Is fitting a battery such a tedious task?

            Make a ruckus about it, escalate the matter, ask for the showroom manager, if he doesn't oblige, click a pic of the bent radiator fins and threaten them that you're going to report the matter to senior officials (a little bluffing here helps a lot - they won't check if you actually know any senior officials :P). Accepting their indifferent attitude will only boost their arrogance. We need to show them the proverbial middle finger - they just can't take customers for a ride with their indifference.

            Originally posted by kpvision View Post
            Thanks. I told them to replace, but was told that it involves fairing removal (guess 15 min job?). This, I momentarially thought, they will ruin the fairing.
            As far as the fairing is concerned, make sure you check the fairing properly after refitting, ensure that there are no rattles or loose bolts, and you will be just fine.
            Last edited by bbsrailfan; 02-21-2013, 10:50 AM.

            Biking is not about how many Km/h you put on your Speedo. It's about how many miles you put on your Odo. Ride Safe, Ride Long!

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            • Originally posted by kpvision View Post
              Thanks. I told them to replace, but was told that it involves fairing removal (guess 15 min job?). This, I momentarially thought, they will ruin the fairing. Basically
              I was talked out of it, saying that it is OK. I don't know what would be the impact on heat dissipation, though I would like all of them to be OK without bending and touching others.
              They have no other ABS black model, means they have to remove from other STD version and fit it .
              Tell them to give you another bike or just walk out and enquire at other showrooms if they have it in stock. Do not accept a bike which requires replacement of an important component as the radiator. IF they cannot offer you another bike just walk off and find another place. It is not worth risking the bike's condition if they are snubbing your requests like this.
              Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.

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              • Thanks. Sure guys, will do. By the way, payment is already made. So, will ask for radiator replacement. How to know when the bike is manufactured?. Can we believe when they say it is 2013 model. Any information from chassis number (ok - got it from RG's post 8200 - 9th and 10th char from frame number).
                Last edited by kpvision; 02-21-2013, 11:47 AM.
                ~shifting at 6K RPM

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                • Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                  The clutch cable might work but not the accelerator cable as cbr has 2 wires running through the throttle body that goes around the round flywheel to control fuel. Also even if the zmr clipons fit to that of the cbr fork you might not be able to turn the handle as it will touch the windscreen. . Try moving to a lil front and then ride. Get a tankpad though

                  Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
                  ZMR also has two wires for throttle. The only problem is the clip on, zmr forks looks visibily smaller. I am hoping to get the handle slightly closer to my body.
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                  • OK, finally after haggling for 5 mins, got a call from showroom that odo is 0kms and 2013 manufacture date (he got out from year of manufacture from insurance). Given up on replacing the radiator (I could still force it, but beginning to think that if they remove it and drain the coolant then I am not sure that they won't goof up while putting new one back properly with coolant). As you know, good mechanics won't be mechanics here for long time as they would be promoted to jobs they can't handle . During their so called "PDI", I am even OK if they don't ride to check if the machine works in all gears! (even if doesn't work, customer has to repair it under warranty anyway as once registration is done nothing can be done). As usual before any purchase, the life is throwing its tantrums and testing moi. Believe me, when I bought Suzuki Fiero ES in 2001 Feb, I felt pleasant buying experience as it was a top model from them. Now it is 2013 Feb and boy!, we are on a such a downward spiral!.
                    By the way hold your horses before forming a final opinion as I will update you guys after I get the machine tomorrow with delivery experience and initial impressions.
                    ~shifting at 6K RPM

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                    • Originally posted by shadu View Post
                      ZMR also has two wires for throttle. The only problem is the clip on, zmr forks looks visibily smaller. I am hoping to get the handle slightly closer to my body.
                      The ZMR shares it's forks with the CBZ/Xtreme/Hunk Trio - and if these bikes are based on the international Honda CBZ160, then they should have a fork diameter of 35mm. I can check with my friend, who owns a ZMR but he's is out of town right now - will update you in a day or two. The CBR250 has a fork diameter of 37mm so I am doubtful if the clip-ons will fit.

                      Biking is not about how many Km/h you put on your Speedo. It's about how many miles you put on your Odo. Ride Safe, Ride Long!

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                      • Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                        The ZMR shares it's forks with the CBZ/Xtreme/Hunk Trio - and if these bikes are based on the international Honda CBZ160, then they should have a fork diameter of 35mm. I can check with my friend, who owns a ZMR but he's is out of town right now - will update you in a day or two. The CBR250 has a fork diameter of 37mm so I am doubtful if the clip-ons will fit.
                        You're right. The similarity ends with the 2 throttle cables.
                        ZMR has 35mm forks, CBR has 37mm. P200NS has 37 mm forks. See if something can be done.
                        Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
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                        Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                        Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                        P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                        • But theoretically, this should be doable, since the ZMR handlebars are adjustable (I can't explain very well, may be the pics will explain better - refer to the area marked in Green). So I feel, the nut (marked in red) can be opened up fully to let the clipon slide on to the fork and then bolted till tight. This will leave a few mm gap between the loop, but I guess that should be fine.
                          (Image shamelessly borrowed from the ZMA thread, credits to original owner)
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                          Biking is not about how many Km/h you put on your Speedo. It's about how many miles you put on your Odo. Ride Safe, Ride Long!

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                          • Hi guys,

                            There is one seperate thread for CBR modification or stickering in XBHP...i used to read once.. then i am not able to find again..can anyone please post the link here ?

                            For CBR chennai owners,

                            Can anyone please advise me the best place for stickering or modification in chennai ?

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                            • Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                              But theoretically, this should be doable, since the ZMR handlebars are adjustable (I can't explain very well, may be the pics will explain better - refer to the area marked in Green). So I feel, the nut (marked in red) can be opened up fully to let the clipon slide on to the fork and then bolted till tight. This will leave a few mm gap between the loop, but I guess that should be fine.
                              (Image shamelessly borrowed from the ZMA thread, credits to original owner)
                              This is a very nice observation. I think 1 or 2mm can be shaved off without any issues. Clutch, accelerator and brake hose can be used from karizma too but i am not very sure. If anybody has a spare zmr clipon (single piece) I can try this mod.
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                              • Originally posted by kpvision View Post
                                OK, finally after haggling for 5 mins, got a call from showroom that odo is 0kms and 2013 manufacture date (he got out from year of manufacture from insurance). Given up on replacing the radiator (I could still force it, but beginning to think that if they remove it and drain the coolant then I am not sure that they won't goof up while putting new one back properly with coolant). As you know, good mechanics won't be mechanics here for long time as they would be promoted to jobs they can't handle . During their so called "PDI", I am even OK if they don't ride to check if the machine works in all gears! (even if doesn't work, customer has to repair it under warranty anyway as once registration is done nothing can be done). As usual before any purchase, the life is throwing its tantrums and testing moi. Believe me, when I bought Suzuki Fiero ES in 2001 Feb, I felt pleasant buying experience as it was a top model from them. Now it is 2013 Feb and boy!, we are on a such a downward spiral!.
                                By the way hold your horses before forming a final opinion as I will update you guys after I get the machine tomorrow with delivery experience and initial impressions.


                                I'm surprised you're still going ahead with the purchase even after noticing so many damages on the bike! I bought mine last month from Sapphire Honda, JP Nagar and had no issues whatsoever with the process. My bike was in perfect shape with the 0 KM odo. I'd recommend you wait for a different bike as you have already paid the amount.
                                It's always better to lose a second in life than to lose life in a second!

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