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  • #14011
    Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by binarycodes View Post
    Thanks for explaining. This being my first ride, I do not know anything at all regarding these things, except what I have been reading in this forum.
    Will check with the SVC asap regarding the oil filter.
    Well CBR is too my first ride. I get plenty of info and help from xBhp members. Read manual and before going to SVC if you have any doubt clarify that here. BTW which SVC you are going ?

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    • #14012
      Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Hi Guys, I have put new chain and sprocket. Now I have covered around 500kms with this new sprocket. I want to clean and maintain the chain for longevity. I heard that Motul C2 Chain clean is good for O-ring chains. Can anyone suggest me about the availability of it. I tried searching online but no help. Or is there any other products available . Please Help !!
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      • #14013
        Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by jamesrocky View Post
        Can anyone suggest me about the availability of it. I tried searching online but no help. Or is there any other products available . Please Help !!
        Get tribocor chain clean+lube. Sticks better& flings less than motul. You can find it on ebay.

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        • #14014
          Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Error Page | eBay
          http://www.ebay.in/itm/Tribocor-Chain-Lube-Chain-Cleaner-Spray-500ML-2-5-percent-off-/171283710866?

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          • #14015
            Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by binarycodes View Post
            No, the filter has not been replaced. Whats the durability of the filter?
            Originally posted by Shiv_beam View Post
            It has to be replaced during the first service.. The piston rings of a new engine needs to seal the combustion pressure, that is the reason for break-in period. During this session the excess metal gets scraped off and mixed with the oil which eventually gets collected/filtered by the oil filter. So throw away the oil filter whenever you change the engine oil.
            Originally posted by binarycodes View Post
            What engine oil are you guys using?
            Is the Honda Trottle that my SVC uses good enough? Or can I get smoother output from Shell or Motul or something else?
            The best real world result I got from an oil when I still the CBR250R was when I was using Motul 7100 10W40. Relatively expensive but well worth it.

            The Motul 300V was better than the 7100, but a total waste for normal everyday use. The only time I could feel its benefits was on really long rides, where the gears started performing smoother as the kilometres started to accumulate in multiples of the number 10. It actually became much smoother post a 200km+ ride than when I started the ride. This oil needs high engine temperatures to perform to the optimum. On cold morning starts, before it has had time to warm up, starts the gearshifts tend to be a bit notchy.

            I would recommend the Motul 5100, but the recommended rating for the CBR250 is hard to find. This is in my opinion the best all-round oil for a bike. The 7100 strikes a nice balance between the two.

            And yes, an oil filter change is recommended every time you change the oil.

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            • #14016
              Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by maraque View Post
              The best real world result I got from an oil when I still the CBR250R was when I was using Motul 7100 10W40.
              The Motul 300V was better than the 7100, but a total waste for normal everyday use. The only time I could feel its benefits was on really long rides, where the gears started performing smoother as the kilometres started to accumulate in multiples of the number 10. It actually became much smoother post a 200km+ ride than when I started the ride. This oil needs high engine temperatures to perform to the optimum. On cold morning starts, before it has had time to warm up, starts the gearshifts tend to be a bit notchy.

              I would recommend the Motul 5100, but the recommended rating for the CBR250 is hard to find. This is in my opinion the best all-round oil for a bike. The 7100 strikes a nice balance between the two.
              Bro, have you used the AX7? Is there a real-world difference between the performance of AX7 and 7100 or 300V?

              What's the life of Shell AX7 20W40 when used in a CBR250? I have covered close to 2000 kms/2 months with the AX7 and I feel like the oil is nearing the end of it's life - on hot days, the engine feels exceptionally rough and unrefined and staggers in stop-go traffic, and on longer rides, sustained speeds of anything over 90kph strains the engine.
              I usually have to travel to Chennai on business, and that's when I can feel the AX7 failing on me. On my last trip, I had a sustained 110kph ride between Krishnagiri-Vellore (~120kms), I stopped for a break and when I restarted, I could literally feel the internals grinding. Moreover, I also noticed a loss of top-end (down to 130kph from 140) - now thinking of switching back to Throttle 10W30 else switching to 300v.
              Biking is not about how many Km/h you put on your Speedo. It's about how many miles you put on your Odo. Ride Safe, Ride Long!

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              • #14017
                Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                Bro, have you used the AX7? Is there a real-world difference between the performance of AX7 and 7100 or 300V?

                What's the life of Shell AX7 20W40 when used in a CBR250? I have covered close to 2000 kms/2 months with the AX7 and I feel like the oil is nearing the end of it's life - on hot days, the engine feels exceptionally rough and unrefined and staggers in stop-go traffic, and on longer rides, sustained speeds of anything over 90kph strains the engine.
                I usually have to travel to Chennai on business, and that's when I can feel the AX7 failing on me. On my last trip, I had a sustained 110kph ride between Krishnagiri-Vellore (~120kms), I stopped for a break and when I restarted, I could literally feel the internals grinding. Moreover, I also noticed a loss of top-end (down to 130kph from 140) - now thinking of switching back to Throttle 10W30 else switching to 300v.
                At what interval you change engine oil. And I heard from some guy we should top up small amount of engine oil as per need. Is it right ?

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                • #14018
                  Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                  Bro, have you used the AX7? Is there a real-world difference between the performance of AX7 and 7100 or 300V?

                  What's the life of Shell AX7 20W40 when used in a CBR250? I have covered close to 2000 kms/2 months with the AX7 and I feel like the oil is nearing the end of it's life - on hot days, the engine feels exceptionally rough and unrefined and staggers in stop-go traffic, and on longer rides, sustained speeds of anything over 90kph strains the engine.
                  I usually have to travel to Chennai on business, and that's when I can feel the AX7 failing on me. On my last trip, I had a sustained 110kph ride between Krishnagiri-Vellore (~120kms), I stopped for a break and when I restarted, I could literally feel the internals grinding. Moreover, I also noticed a loss of top-end (down to 130kph from 140) - now thinking of switching back to Throttle 10W30 else switching to 300v.
                  Never used Shell, so cannot comment on it. I've only ever used Castrol, Motul, Valvoline, and Elf, but in a two-stroke engine. Only thing I'm aware about the Shell AX-7 is that it is a semi-synthetic mineral-based blend, in comparison to the comparable Motul 5100, which is also semi-synthetic but ester-based. That gives the Motul an advantage in my opinion, though Shell is still way better than Castrol. Also had a good experience with Valvoline.

                  And the 7100 is a better oil than the 5100, which would mean way better than the Shell AX-7. From your usage pattern, you seem to be a prime candidate for Motul 7100. I found the 300V to be overkill for the CBR250 when I was still using it.

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                  • #14019
                    Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                    Bro, have you used the AX7? Is there a real-world difference between the performance of AX7 and 7100 or 300V?

                    What's the life of Shell AX7 20W40 when used in a CBR250? I have covered close to 2000 kms/2 months with the AX7 and I feel like the oil is nearing the end of it's life - on hot days, the engine feels exceptionally rough and unrefined and staggers in stop-go traffic, and on longer rides, sustained speeds of anything over 90kph strains the engine.
                    I usually have to travel to Chennai on business, and that's when I can feel the AX7 failing on me. On my last trip, I had a sustained 110kph ride between Krishnagiri-Vellore (~120kms), I stopped for a break and when I restarted, I could literally feel the internals grinding. Moreover, I also noticed a loss of top-end (down to 130kph from 140) - now thinking of switching back to Throttle 10W30 else switching to 300v.

                    shell ultra : FS over and above motul 300v or honda 10-30.. way smoother engine and cheaper than 300V

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                    Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                    Bro, have you used the AX7? Is there a real-world difference between the performance of AX7 and 7100 or 300V?

                    What's the life of Shell AX7 20W40 when used in a CBR250? I have covered close to 2000 kms/2 months with the AX7 and I feel like the oil is nearing the end of it's life - on hot days, the engine feels exceptionally rough and unrefined and staggers in stop-go traffic, and on longer rides, sustained speeds of anything over 90kph strains the engine.
                    I usually have to travel to Chennai on business, and that's when I can feel the AX7 failing on me. On my last trip, I had a sustained 110kph ride between Krishnagiri-Vellore (~120kms), I stopped for a break and when I restarted, I could literally feel the internals grinding. Moreover, I also noticed a loss of top-end (down to 130kph from 140) - now thinking of switching back to Throttle 10W30 else switching to 300v.

                    shell ultra : FS over and above motul 300v or honda 10-30.. way smoother engine and cheaper than 300V
                    "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

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                    RX-100 1995 - Current
                    CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
                    Activa 2004 - Current
                    CBR 250R 2012 - Current
                    Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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                    • #14020
                      Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by hypheni View Post
                      At what interval you change engine oil. And I heard from some guy we should top up small amount of engine oil as per need. Is it right ?
                      Previously I stuck religiously to the OEM schedule - oil change every 6000 kms and previously sticking religiously to Throttle 10W30. I switched to AX7 10W40 in Feb when my ride became unreasonably rough on a ride to Chennai, but now it's time for a fresh change.

                      Originally posted by maraque View Post
                      From your usage pattern, you seem to be a prime candidate for Motul 7100. I found the 300V to be overkill for the CBR250 when I was still using it.
                      Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                      shell ultra : FS over and above motul 300v or honda 10-30.. way smoother engine and cheaper than 300V
                      Have to think over Shell ultra and 7100. So far, my experience with Shell on the CBR was disappointing. Hoping Ultra FS would do better.
                      @maraque Can you share the prices for 7100?
                      Biking is not about how many Km/h you put on your Speedo. It's about how many miles you put on your Odo. Ride Safe, Ride Long!

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                      • #14021
                        Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                        Previously I stuck religiously to the OEM schedule - oil change every 6000 kms and previously sticking religiously to Throttle 10W30. I switched to AX7 10W40 in Feb when my ride became unreasonably rough on a ride to Chennai, but now it's time for a fresh change.
                        Wanna experiment? Try out Rimula R4 15w40. Drain every 2k kms.


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                        • #14022
                          Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                          Previously I stuck religiously to the OEM schedule - oil change every 6000 kms and previously sticking religiously to Throttle 10W30. I switched to AX7 10W40 in Feb when my ride became unreasonably rough on a ride to Chennai, but now it's time for a fresh change.




                          Have to think over Shell ultra and 7100. So far, my experience with Shell on the CBR was disappointing. Hoping Ultra FS would do better.
                          @maraque Can you share the prices for 7100?
                          I get my Motul 7100 bottles for around 750 rupees a litre from a little shop here in JC Road, Bangalore.

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                          • #14023
                            Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                            Previously I stuck religiously to the OEM schedule - oil change every 6000 kms and previously sticking religiously to Throttle 10W30. I switched to AX7 10W40 in Feb when my ride became unreasonably rough on a ride to Chennai, but now it's time for a fresh change.




                            Have to think over Shell ultra and 7100. So far, my experience with Shell on the CBR was disappointing. Hoping Ultra FS would do better.
                            @maraque Can you share the prices for 7100?

                            shell ultra was around 800 when i bought it and is definitely good. not able to check top speed due to road constraints
                            however engine is far smoother and exhaust note in now little beefed up compared to the hollow (sumeet mixer ) sound
                            "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

                            RE Bullet 1977 - Current
                            RX-100 1995 - Current
                            CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
                            Activa 2004 - Current
                            CBR 250R 2012 - Current
                            Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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                            • #14024
                              Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                              Have to think over Shell ultra and 7100. So far, my experience with Shell on the CBR was disappointing. Hoping Ultra FS would do better.
                              Why did you opt for a SS oil in the first place?
                              AFAIK, CBR suffers with a SS oil. Shell Advance ultra FS 10W40 is tried n proven best on 250R(even better than motul) by @gopakumar & @aargee

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                              [MENTION=25697]maraque[/MENTION], did you ever get a chance to check the performance of CBR with a shell Ultra? If you haven't I'd suggest you try it once.

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                              • #14025
                                Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by Shiv_beam View Post
                                Why did you opt for a SS oil in the first place?
                                AFAIK, CBR suffers with a SS oil. Shell Advance ultra FS 10W40 is tried n proven best on 250R(even better than motul) by @gopakumar & @aargee

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                                @maraque, did you ever get a chance to check the performance of CBR with a shell Ultra? If you haven't I'd suggest you try it once.
                                Like I mentioned in my earlier posts, I have never tried Shell so I don't know the real world differences.

                                Anyway, a buddy of mine does commutes from Hyderabad to Bangalore and vice-versa on his CBR250R, and he uses Motul 300V. Even he says that every time the gearshifts on his bike actually becomes smoother at the end of his journey, that nice click of the gearchange rather than the clunk one would expect at the end of the ride. I can vouch for it because we usually go out for something to eat when he arrives, and the gearshifts are like butter. He likes to maintain a cruise speed of 120kmph on his bike, that should put enough of a load to come to some conclusions.

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