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  • Originally posted by joshzma225 View Post
    While all that you have mentioned about the exhaust discoloring is true, the fact is the pipes aren't supposed to rust and chip/peel off like in this picture which was posted by Ri$Hi earlier in this forum.
    This is where the fault or manufacturing defect lies, NOT because the pipe is turning a shade of purple or blue or anything but, purely because the pipe does not look like it's supposed to after a few weeks with the heat produced by the engine...

    What I would strongly & personally suggest is, EVERY 200 DUKE owner here on this forum and even your friends out of this forum, city wise, should go together to the service centers and show them that it's not just your bike that was an anomaly that this exhaust defect is happening to, but it's happening to every Duke out there. And while just getting the bend pipe replaced is an option, it may not be a permanent solution, so KTM has to figure this one out...Other than that the heating issue I have learnt to live with, BUT the Bike is perfect in every other aspect to me :-) ...& just coz its got a Discolored exhaust doesn't demote it to being a "China" Bike :-D
    Ya you are absolutely right..... i mentioned china bike coz i want all of us to rev our minds to demand for a good quality exhaust. i love this bike so much that i dont want anyone to raise any negative issue

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    • y d Wait

      Originally posted by anthonydcruz View Post
      Hello bhpian's... just finished reading the whole thread... whew!!! Congrats to all the owners of KTM Duke 200. Well I have just booked myself a KTM Duke 200 (finally got duke'd) ... yesterday from South Mumbai KTM at High Street Phoenix after being bike-less for almost 1.5years . And now the longest wait of 15 days begins... Looking forward to meet all fellow riders soon... Till then happy & safe riding. Cheers!!!
      y u need to wait i ve booked my duke on 12 April n ride it home on 15 April from VASHI KTM n same was d seen with K'marg KTM showroom they also offered delivery on clearance of cheque.... so y u need to wait u can ask them to make delivery......

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      • Originally posted by Venkat 333 View Post
        Its no use of asking me questions.... its better for us if we ask the ktm guys to improve quality
        Definitely no use asking irrelevant questions and just branding the bike bad/chinese. lol... KTM is not going to listen to you as they are sure of the quality of bikes produced. 1 unhappy customer for the customers own misjudgement or irrelevance is not going to make KTM mend their ways. But sure go ahead and try - I am nobody to advise you. Thanks for your time. Wish you luck.

        So - how come all bikes exhaust pipes haven't turned blue? and time and again people have mentioned turning blue is common because of excessive heat that the part is subjected to. I would agree with you if it is rusting/chipping off/bad weld quality etc. Do you have any of them? Post pics please?

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        • Originally posted by Shubz View Post
          So - how come all bikes exhaust pipes haven't turned blue? and time and again people have mentioned turning blue is common because of excessive heat that the part is subjected to. I would agree with you if it is rusting/chipping off/bad weld quality etc. Do you have any of them? Post pics please?
          Shubz,

          I have the chipping similar to the pic posted by Ri$hi (reposted by joshzma225). And I have it across the length of the pipe.

          My sole intention of bringing up the topic is that I was under the assumption that ideally the transition from one colour to another is gradual and smooth. While in this case, it is like a bad rash.
          If someone here is telling me that it is normal (rash-like appearance) then I have no qualms living with it (but with a tinge of disappointment).
          I like 'em Naked

          Blah Blah Blah!

          Reason is not automatic. Those who choose not to recognise it, can't be conquered by it.
          - Ayn Rand, in 'Atlas Shrugged'

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          • Originally posted by NikhilB View Post
            Shubz,

            I have the chipping similar to the pic posted by Ri$hi (reposted by joshzma225). And I have it across the length of the pipe.

            My sole intention of bringing up the topic is that I was under the assumption that ideally the transition from one colour to another is gradual and smooth. While in this case, it is like a bad rash.
            If someone here is telling me that it is normal (rash-like appearance) then I have no qualms living with it (but with a tinge of disappointment).
            Nikhil bhai - I am totally open to discussing valid issues and bringing it to the attention of the KTM folks. But not issues like branding it a China bike etc.

            Coming to the chipping - this is a serious issue. Now my thoughts wander over the quality of water used for washing etc. Secondly - was the bike put under the water spray while it was still hot?

            I have seen one bike with the exhaust turning purple and another friend of mine (Rajath) claims brown/white spots on the pipe.

            For one - the pipe quality isn't something Bajaj/KTM would compromise upon. The purpling of the pipe - I spoke to the service folks even an hour ago - who were only saying the same - because of heat. Interestingly - it is not happening on all the bikes.

            Rajathslr - whenever you can - can you please post pics of the spotting on your exhaust pipe?

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            • Originally posted by Shubz View Post
              Nikhil bhai - I am totally open to discussing valid issues and bringing it to the attention of the KTM folks. But not issues like branding it a China bike etc.

              Coming to the chipping - this is a serious issue. Now my thoughts wander over the quality of water used for washing etc. Secondly - was the bike put under the water spray while it was still hot?

              I have seen one bike with the exhaust turning purple and another friend of mine (Rajath) claims brown/white spots on the pipe.

              For one - the pipe quality isn't something Bajaj/KTM would compromise upon. The purpling of the pipe - I spoke to the service folks even an hour ago - who were only saying the same - because of heat. Interestingly - it is not happening on all the bikes.

              Rajathslr - whenever you can - can you please post pics of the spotting on your exhaust pipe?
              Interesting thought on the washing.

              Washing (in my case) is done early in the morning and by a wet cloth only. So bike is cool and there is no question of spraying or emptying the bucket over it.
              But even washing should not ideally affect the pipe otherwise the exposed pipe would not last our monsoons.

              I'll also try to put up a pic of my pipe.

              Also a question at Mountain,
              When you say that this discoloration was normal, is the transition process similar to the pic posted earlier or is it a smooth transition?

              PS: Shubz, bhai mat bolo unless you want me to call you Sir
              I like 'em Naked

              Blah Blah Blah!

              Reason is not automatic. Those who choose not to recognise it, can't be conquered by it.
              - Ayn Rand, in 'Atlas Shrugged'

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              • I wanted to ask a brief question to all the Duke 200 owners:

                Before I go test-drive the bike and book it, could anyone here tell me if it is tough for a 5'4" guy to ride it. Upgrading from R15..

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                • Originally posted by NikhilB View Post
                  Interesting thought on the washing.

                  Washing (in my case) is done early in the morning and by a wet cloth only. So bike is cool and there is no question of spraying or emptying the bucket over it.
                  But even washing should not ideally affect the pipe otherwise the exposed pipe would not last our monsoons.

                  I'll also try to put up a pic of my pipe.

                  Also a question at Mountain,
                  When you say that this discoloration was normal, is the transition process similar to the pic posted earlier or is it a smooth transition?

                  PS: Shubz, bhai mat bolo unless you want me to call you Sir
                  So you don't even want me to call you a brother? Kidding!

                  the term "affect" - Now the question is - is it only coloration due to its metallurgical properties?
                  Is it due to the quality of water?
                  Is it due to the sudden changes in temperatures of the pipe?
                  Is it due to the detergents used on it - while its still hot?
                  What about riding styles? Excessive revving and suddenly switching off after the ride?

                  These are only thought processes. I could be completely off track in getting to the bottom of this. I need to sit with Venkat (Auto Service) and check on various scenarios. I will do that. Let the pics/inputs keep coming in.

                  PS: No offense meant to anybody. It is very easy to assassinate the bikes character but that is not the agenda here.

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                  • Originally posted by R15freak View Post
                    I wanted to ask a brief question to all the Duke 200 owners:

                    Before I go test-drive the bike and book it, could anyone here tell me if it is tough for a 5'4" guy to ride it. Upgrading from R15..
                    Height may not be too great an issue. I'm around 5'6 and I find it a bit difficult to plant both feets to the ground, however a tilt to a side and one of my foot is firmly rested. Apart from that, at longer rides I do experience knee pain, that could be entirely because of my Body's condition.

                    You probably need to be wary when you get on and off the bike, most of my friends hit their knee on the pillion bars when they mount the bike the first time . Mere Mortals have to be careful on the DUKE

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                    • We are being followed !!

                      BTW just to tell you guys.. Bajaj people are following this thread silently..

                      One of their guys told me..
                      The best alarm clock is sunshine on chrome.

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                      • Originally posted by R15freak View Post
                        I wanted to ask a brief question to all the Duke 200 owners:

                        Before I go test-drive the bike and book it, could anyone here tell me if it is tough for a 5'4" guy to ride it. Upgrading from R15..
                        I am sorry to say , but if you are 5'4", then it would be a bit tough as the seat height is more than R15. Also in my opinion, if your feet are not properly planted on ground while sitting on any bike that is a concern in terms of safety. My advice would be to test drive any bike(Not only Duke) and if you feel even 10% discomfort don't go for it(in long run you'll agree) no matter how attractive or powerful the bike is.
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                        The Monk who sold his Ferrari ........... Bought himself a Bike.

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                        • Originally posted by devil_rider View Post
                          BTW just to tell you guys.. Bajaj people are following this thread silently..

                          One of their guys told me..
                          That's a real good news ...
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                          The Monk who sold his Ferrari ........... Bought himself a Bike.

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                          • Originally posted by Shubz View Post
                            So you don't even want me to call you a brother?

                            ....................... These are only thought processes. I could be completely off track in getting to the bottom of this. I need to sit with Venkat (Auto Service) and check on various scenarios. I will do that. Let the pics/inputs keep coming in.

                            PS: No offense meant to anybody. It is very easy to assassinate the bikes character but that is not the agenda here.
                            Shubz, just to inform you that I haven't yet faced the decoloration issue yet on my bike. I have once or twice washed the motorcycle while it was still a bit warm(not much though). So not sure whether the decoloration could be caused by Water or Wash method. I haven't revved my bike hard and kept the bike always below 6500/7000 RPM during my runnin period. Never ridden the bike at a stretch for more than 1 and 1/2 hours. So that could be the difference maker here. I am not sure what'll happen when I'll take it to trips or ride it more freely.
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                            The Monk who sold his Ferrari ........... Bought himself a Bike.

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                            • Originally posted by devil_rider View Post
                              BTW just to tell you guys.. Bajaj people are following this thread silently..

                              One of their guys told me..
                              Oh Really??? Awesome!!! Now we can all expect BIGGER Radiators and New Exhaust Header Pipes!!!
                              Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure.

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                              • Originally posted by hunkofgals View Post
                                hey guys ive got my KTM yesterday !

                                the bike is amazing but im facing heat problems , it heats up within 10 seconds and hot fumes come from the engine and even the pillion at the back can feel it ! what might be the issue ?

                                .

                                and the bike's rear break action is very stiff and its fore play is very small
                                i need to jam the break down very hard to enable the rear break
                                what might be the issue?
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                                and any DUKE OWNERS from VISAKHAPATNAM ?
                                Are you sure that the Bike got heated within 10 seconds and Fume was coming??? Because, I have ridden the bike at a stretch for one hour or more with the temperature bar almost full(I mean just nelow the notch/break) but never experienced any fume coming.

                                Though it is normal for a new bike to get heated quickly, but with Duke its even quicker, so might be an issue with Duke. I have asked the representative during the Customer meet session, but they told it's really normal and can be experienced only in Bumper to Bumper traffic. But my point is even though it can be experienced in low gears and bumper to bumper traffic, you are the one who will feel your legs getting Bar-B-Qued everytime .

                                And yes, the rear brake does not give you more freeplay space, but in my opinion it's not that bad. Also the braking is adequate for normal braking situations.
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