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  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by MarkNS View Post
    I'm sure. I checked them out side by side.

    Don't know why this change has been made, which is why I'm looking for someone with some knowledge. I'm pretty clueless myself.
    Okay.I will inform you if i have any update on it.

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    • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

      Originally posted by kany1991 View Post
      Any reason for choosing 41 and 43t sporket because i knw nothing abt sporkets [emoji16] [emoji16] [emoji16] [emoji16] [emoji16] [emoji16]
      Keeping the front sprocket same, an increase in rear teeth would increase acceleration. But that would also mean a decrease in top end.

      Here's where the calculations come into play regarding the ratios of front and rear sprockets, to find perfect balance between acceleration and top end.

      I want to change because they're now in need of replacement. Was just waiting for the monsoon to pass. So while I'm at it, I want to see if I can get the NS to behave differently

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      • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

        Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post
        NS will come back soon. If it's stopped, Bajaj won't list that in its website. Also bajaj officially has confirmed that it has currently stopped the production to boost sales of as/rs. What if ns is available still?, many will prefer that and bajaj can't show big numbers on as/rs sales. Hold your temptation, Bajaj is pushing all ns lovers to buy As/rs. Also wait a month for mojo, which looks very promising naked cruiser.....
        Nope cannot wait any longer as it's been like months for me without riding a proper bike and riding a splendor is really a big pain in the rear, especially when you want to go out for a ride and you simply can't because the bike won't. . .

        To others, enquired about changing the AS back to NS, it would cost around 3000 to 4000rs, we just need to replace the tank extensions which would cost 700-800 each side, headlight and clamp for 1000rs and wiring and other stuffs, extra. . .

        Cheers!!!
        Yamaha Rx135 - 2005 - 2007 (stolen :mad:)
        Scooty Pep - 2008 - 2012 (sold)
        Honda Unicorn - 2012 - 2015 (crashed)
        Hero Honda Splendor+ 2015 - present (temporary ride)
        Bajaj Pulsar AS200 - 16th September 2015 - present ride

        10 years into riding :D
        Live2Race. . .

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        • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

          Originally posted by kany1991 View Post
          Any reason for choosing 41 and 43t sporket because i knw nothing abt sporkets [emoji16] [emoji16] [emoji16] [emoji16] [emoji16] [emoji16]
          So you are looking for sprocketing?, I've done enough with that once, but thought, if needed a better cruiser, would just buy a better bike. Alright, since you have asked.

          Check this out, I have calculated this in excel sheet with the gear ratios and information available from various webs and forums. This is screen shot taken from the excel I calculated. I did this long back, however you can find it in gearcommander as well. But I did this all myself prior to knowing about that. Hope it is useful and explains about sprocketing. If needed, I shall upload the excel so that you can try tweaking it.

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          By the way, I just came to know that AS has a different sprocketing from your message. How about the front?, just rear does not account for change in graph.

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          Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post
          So you are looking for sprocketing?, I've done enough with that once, but thought, if needed a better cruiser, would just buy a better bike. Alright, since you have asked.

          Check this out, I have calculated this in excel sheet with the gear ratios and information available from various webs and forums. This is screen shot taken from the excel I calculated. I did this long back, however you can find it in gearcommander as well. But I did this all myself prior to knowing about that. Hope it is useful and explains about sprocketing. If needed, I shall upload the excel so that you can try tweaking it.

          By the way, I just came to know that AS has a different sprocketing from your message. How about the front?, just rear does not account for change in graph.
          So the idea behind the AS sprocketing could be to compensate the additional weight and still keep up the pickup by slightly compromising the top end. I'm not surprised by this sprocketing. Add more weight, it adds more drag and hence accelerates less. Any idea about RS sprocketing?. I have not googled it yet.

          That is also one reason why duke 200 top end is less than pulsar. In this excel, you have to consider the RPM as well. I said at 10,000 RPM NS can do ~144 with 39 teeth, whereas AS with 41 teeth will do 137. But the RS also should have similar teeth but it does ~5kph more, that's because the RS engine revs a little higher than what NS\AS can do and hence more top end for RS, but suffers acceleration. So this is the reason why NS is bloody quick
          Last edited by jbm_guy; 09-04-2015, 08:06 PM.

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          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

            Originally posted by MarkNS View Post
            Keeping the front sprocket same, an increase in rear teeth would increase acceleration. But that would also mean a decrease in top end.

            Here's where the calculations come into play regarding the ratios of front and rear sprockets, to find perfect balance between acceleration and top end.

            I want to change because they're now in need of replacement. Was just waiting for the monsoon to pass. So while I'm at it, I want to see if I can get the NS to behave differently
            Thanks bro👍
            Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post
            So you are looking for sprocketing?, I've done enough with that once, but thought, if needed a better cruiser, would just buy a better bike. Alright, since you have asked.

            Check this out, I have calculated this in excel sheet with the gear ratios and information available from various webs and forums. This is screen shot taken from the excel I calculated. I did this long back, however you can find it in gearcommander as well. But I did this all myself prior to knowing about that. Hope it is useful and explains about sprocketing. If needed, I shall upload the excel so that you can try tweaking it.

            [ATTACH]190862[/ATTACH][ATTACH]190863[/ATTACH]

            By the way, I just came to know that AS has a different sprocketing from your message. How about the front?, just rear does not account for change in graph.

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            So the idea behind the AS sprocketing could be to compensate the additional weight and still keep up the pickup by slightly compromising the top end. I'm not surprised by this sprocketing. Add more weight, it adds more drag and hence accelerates less. Any idea about RS sprocketing?. I have not googled it yet.

            That is also one reason why duke 200 top end is less than pulsar
            Thanks a lot [MENTION=75352]jbm_guy[/MENTION] [emoji120] now i kne abt sporketing

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            • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

              Originally posted by MarkNS View Post
              Keeping the front sprocket same, an increase in rear teeth would increase acceleration. But that would also mean a decrease in top end.

              Here's where the calculations come into play regarding the ratios of front and rear sprockets, to find perfect balance between acceleration and top end.

              I want to change because they're now in need of replacement. Was just waiting for the monsoon to pass. So while I'm at it, I want to see if I can get the NS to behave differently
              This setup can result in undergearing, which might result in less mileage and may increase cruising speed RPMs a bit higher. I'd advice to stick with the same unless you want to get more acceleration (like duke200) and low top end.

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              Originally posted by kany1991 View Post
              Thanks bro👍

              Thanks a lot @jbm_guy [emoji120] now i kne abt sporketing
              With pleasure always

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              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post
                This setup can result in undergearing, which might result in less mileage and may increase cruising speed RPMs a bit higher. I'd advice to stick with the same unless you want to get more acceleration (like duke200) and low top end.

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                With pleasure always
                Thats really a very good detailing info.However is this NS sprocketed to AS that it attains 137Kmph at 10000RPM or it stays the same even for a stock AS.

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                • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                  Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                  Thats really a very good detailing info.However is this NS sprocketed to AS that it attains 137Kmph at 10000RPM or it stays the same even for a stock AS.
                  Thanks. I can't understand your question properly. Anyway Take a close look at this
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                  See, if NS is left at it's stock say 39, it can attain only 136 kph (@9500) which is the Bajaj's claim as well. But however 6th gear never saturates giving way for the engine to even go beyond the said speed, thereby you wont be hitting rev max, thus you can even cruise at top speed better than on Duke200 where it hits it's max at 10,000 rpm. That's the reason why some guys achieved speeds of 150+ in excess without mods, say when you ride downhill or slightly inclined roads. But both NS\AS as per engine rating, does max out @9500 RPM itself where it attains 136kph max (But RS200 gets 141 as it maxes out at slightly higher RPM) after which even if you allow to rev, there wont be any power gain, hence no increase in speed, unless wind or gravity plays a role

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                  Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post
                  Thanks. I can't understand your question properly. Anyway Take a close look at this
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                  See, if NS is left at it's stock say 39, it can attain only 136 kph (@9500) which is the Bajaj's claim as well. But however 6th gear never saturates giving way for the engine to even go beyond the said speed, thereby you wont be hitting rev max, thus you can even cruise at top speed better than on Duke200 where it hits it's max at 10,000 rpm. That's the reason why some guys achieved speeds of 150+ in excess without mods, say when you ride downhill or slightly inclined roads. But both NS\AS as per engine rating, does max out @9500 RPM itself where it attains 136kph max (But RS200 gets 141 as it maxes out at slightly higher RPM) after which even if you allow to rev, there wont be any power gain, hence no increase in speed, unless wind or gravity plays a role
                  Moreover there wont be much difference between NS and AS, as for the said reasons (To counterbalance the added weight) Bajaj could have planned to alter the gear ratios so that you wont feel the drag pretty much. But I could be wrong too, just my guess
                  But this is indeed a small difference and hardly one will notice it.

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                  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                    Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post
                    Thanks. I can't understand your question properly. Anyway Take a close look at this
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                    See, if NS is left at it's stock say 39, it can attain only 136 kph (@9500) which is the Bajaj's claim as well. But however 6th gear never saturates giving way for the engine to even go beyond the said speed, thereby you wont be hitting rev max, thus you can even cruise at top speed better than on Duke200 where it hits it's max at 10,000 rpm. That's the reason why some guys achieved speeds of 150+ in excess without mods, say when you ride downhill or slightly inclined roads. But both NS\AS as per engine rating, does max out @9500 RPM itself where it attains 136kph max (But RS200 gets 141 as it maxes out at slightly higher RPM) after which even if you allow to rev, there wont be any power gain, hence no increase in speed, unless wind or gravity plays a role

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                    Moreover there wont be much difference between NS and AS, as for the said reasons (To counterbalance the added weight) Bajaj could have planned to alter the gear ratios so that you wont feel the drag pretty much. But I could be wrong too, just my guess
                    But this is indeed a small difference and hardly one will notice it.
                    But with AS 41 Tooth will it attain 141 or 136?

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                    • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                      My NS goes at 151 without a downhill incline, or any mods.

                      And its the 2012 version, which redlines at 10,000 rpm.

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                      • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                        Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                        But with AS 41 Tooth will it attain 141 or 136?
                        It should be less in my opinion as rear teeth increases top end comes down. But whatever you see is not true speed, the speedometer has error. It's been told about Upto 6-8% error, hence if you are making 145, you were actually doing 135/136 only.

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                        • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                          Originally posted by MarkNS View Post
                          My NS goes at 151 without a downhill incline, or any mods.

                          And its the 2012 version, which redlines at 10,000 rpm.
                          Yeah mine redlines at 10,500 but as said there won't be any hike in power post 9500, so the chances of bike speeding further is null (theoretically). But since at sixth gear, you won't redline because the gear ratio is like 0.9:1 and will not saturate hence you have chances of going further.
                          Last edited by jbm_guy; 09-04-2015, 11:43 PM.

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                          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                            Originally posted by MarkNS View Post
                            My NS goes at 151 without a downhill incline, or any mods.

                            And its the 2012 version, which redlines at 10,000 rpm.
                            Same speedo error, actually you would have done close to 140, recent batches had some speedo error fixed, but still it's not correct yet

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                            • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                              Originally posted by MarkNS View Post
                              My NS goes at 151 without a downhill incline, or any mods.

                              And its the 2012 version, which redlines at 10,000 rpm.
                              That's Speedo errors 12 version having around 8 to 10% speedo error [emoji25]

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                              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                                I am going on ooty trip this Tuesday and Wednesday.bikes are AS200,TB500,NS200,Two DUKE390,RC390.I am really exited to see the top speed of the bike.I like to gradually increase the speed and not redline from 1st gear.
                                So can you guys tell me if this would be the correct way to attain the top speed.I plan to shift gears at 8k RPM.Is it okay

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