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**gagankeshav** · 09-26-2012, 09:14 AM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by surojit View Post

The same had happened when I told the svc guys that my bike sways to the left... they denied to accept it.
All i did after that was write a mail to bajaj customer care and then it was taken care off.

so drop a mail to bajaj.

Thnx for the opinion..dropped a mail to the customer service,lets see what they have to say about it..

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**Vineet_200** · 09-26-2012, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by gagankeshav View Post

Please help me guys, my experience with the beast had been pretty bad till now. Between 3 to 4 rpm the bike gives me mild jerks which can easily be felt but the service guys disagree to the same. The bike does not feel smooth at all. I have done just 230 on the odo what could be the issue I need somebody to please help me out with this. .

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IMO too low speed in higher gears can also causes this .whenever you feel the jerks try downshifting .

**aniketpassion** · 09-26-2012, 09:26 AM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Hi frnds my last two days experience is not good with my yellow beast particularly with gear shifting. It has become quite harsh when shifting and getting lots of false neutral also..

it is just 380 km on odo

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**gagankeshav** · 09-26-2012, 09:26 AM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by Vineet_200 View Post

IMO too low speed in higher gears can also causes this .whenever you feel the jerks try downshifting .

Hey Vineet..have tried that as well...but to no avail..and u understand what yoy mean..but as far as tge torque delivered by the bike is concerned,if i still ride the bike in 6th gear at 60kmph i am at 4.3k.rpm at a constant speed and i believe that is ok and does not really require a downshift..

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**rahuldevnath** · 09-26-2012, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by gagankeshav View Post

yes Rahul even i think it might be a carb issue, but it is so irritating that its not just letting me wait till 500kms mark,ive been doing proper run in and still the same..and yes..it accelerates absolutely fine...just gives the jerks at constant speeds..no matter speed be 55 or 35..

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Looks like a carb tuning issue for sure.

Originally posted by aniketpassion View Post

Hi frnds my last two days experience is not good with my yellow beast particularly with gear shifting. It has become quite harsh when shifting and getting lots of false neutral also..

it is just 380 km on odo

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Because the bike is new gear shifts will be hard. It will take about 1000Kms for the transmission to bed in properly

**gagankeshav** · 09-26-2012, 09:52 AM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post

Looks like a carb tuning issue for sure.

ohk..so what would u suggest then Rahul..???

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**Shibadip** · 09-26-2012, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post

Because the bike is new gear shifts will be hard. It will take about 1000Kms for the transmission to bed in properly

Buddy, my odo stands on just 290 kms, and my gear shifts are butter soft. I also checked the oil from the oil checking window, and found that it still retains the redish colour.. So I guess the Engine Oil is still good enough right??
Also in your opinion, how much kms does it take an engine to open up??

and, thanks for your wish. and yes, i have a thing for Red, especially on the automobiles. However as per the current plans the next venture might be something in GREEN

**jenimu_kanna007** · 09-26-2012, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by avi_nash94 View Post

Its very hard to find Motul in my area,almost impossible.Please suggest some other brand.BTW can it be some AFR related issue because I had altered it as I was getting a mileage of 22.46kmpl earlier and after tuning getting a mileage of 45kmpl.

how can i do the AFR TUNNING..... ? PLEASE HELP

**psr** · 09-26-2012, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by robot View Post

Thanks for the valuable information. Tomorrow will visit SVC for the registration inspection. And by then my odo will be around 200km I guess. am from a small city called Suri. I don't know weather I can find motul mineral oil here? What else good brand widely available as you already mentioned castrol is not good. And let me know which grade? I really want to do for the engine sound which some times very annoying. Except this every thing is perfect..really enjoying the bike for every bit...It just awesome. Am upgraded from pulsar150 2006 model.

If you do not get motul then try SHELL AX 7 15w50 or 20w50. Valvoline and Gulf Pride are also good oils. Try to get one of them...

Originally posted by utsavchs View Post

Excellent explanation psr sirji. Oil Filter, yes. Just a tiny query. Did 220 had oil filter? Does the NS have a oil filter?

P200NS has user accessible particulate matter oil filter..In P220 there is a centrifugal filter on the clutch side internally. The clutch casing must be opened to clean this filter.

Originally posted by gagankeshav View Post

yes Rahul even i think it might be a carb issue, but it is so irritating that its not just letting me wait till 500kms mark,ive been doing proper run in and still the same..and yes..it accelerates absolutely fine...just gives the jerks at constant speeds..no matter speed be 55 or 35..

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Try tuning for a slightly rich AFR, and change the engine oil to Shell,Motul,Valvoline,or Gulf pride with 15w50 or 20w50 grade and see..

Originally posted by jenimu_kanna007 View Post

how can i do the AFR TUNNING..... ? PLEASE HELP

Please go back a few pages and it is discussed in detail..Unless you are aware of how to do tuning , do not attempt this ,as it can screw up engine performance and lead to problems.

**swashbuckler01** · 09-26-2012, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post

Hello @psr

What decides the idling rpm of bike??

SVC guys.

**psr** · 09-26-2012, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by swashbuckler01 View Post

SVC guys.

It needs a great mind to give simple answer...
Like your reply...

**nilesh14587** · 09-26-2012, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Sorry if my post is not clear, which might have confused you.
The DTSI oil had been thin or had become thinner and hence you had a higher idle RPM
Your new 15w50 oil being new still maintains the viscosity and is thicker than the DTSi oil..hence lower RPM. Do not adjust Idle and see the Idle RPM after about 200 Kms of running...
Your surmise of thinner oil giving relatively higher RPM idle is Correct.
Like I said observe idle RPM after the next 200+ kms .

Thanx for the clarification..

Well that time of 200+ km is long gone. During that 1st service was done, my bikes cylinder head was opened and the valve/tappet settings are played with a lot.

Will try next time I change oil. Gonna keep the same motul 3000 15W50 oil so wil get to see effect of aging of oil. Meanwhile I have started doing my own reading about the carburetor and stuff in details. Will be needing to recall all the stuff I learnt about IC engines during engineering.

Originally posted by utsavchs View Post

Nilesh, Are you saying that you changed the oil from DTSi to motul in the first service or after the first service?

Select any one of the below:

1. No oil change before first service > First oil change to DTSi at first service > Then you change to motul 3000 15W50

2. No oil change before first service > First oil change to Motul 3000 15W50

Oil change to Motul 3000 15W50 @370km (engine was too harsh) + 1st service @820km no oil change. Now its @1400km. Will be changing oil in 200 or so kms now.

Originally posted by swashbuckler01 View Post

SVC guys.

Ha ha..very funny...

Originally posted by robot View Post

thanx. But still confused someone says change oil to motul mineral after 100km, is it really that important? On the other hand owners manual says stick with dtsi oil. Damn confused. Please some one through more lights in to this. What's are the benefits I get if change engine oil early, say 200km? Motul or dtsi?

My engine also have a click click taping sound...which some times become very prominent. One more thing I noticed that when I closed the throttle then I can feel the engine vibration clearly on my foot. Is it normal?

My vote goes to Motul. Motul mineral oil is better than DTSi which is suppose to be SS. And cheaper too..

Regarding the taping sound, does it sound like a sewing machine?? Try and locate the origin of sound. If its coming from cylinder head (just below the fuel tank) then its tappet sound for sure. In that case you should visit SVC. I had the same issue and The mechanic who was trained for NS told me that Bajaj has dictated them to fix tappet for such noise. Note that this tappet noise introduces abnormal vibs in bike.

But before going to SVC and ask him to open your bikes cylinder head, do try these things first.

1. Change the petrol to shell super and see if your engine is still rough. This would show whether its issue with knocking or not.
2. Change engine oil.

Both of these helped me in getting reed of roughness in engine. Well Shell super is costly but shell unleaded is now just a little costly than HP/BP/IOC petrol (77 vs 75.5 in Pune) So you can try that for sure. I changed to HP from Shell and I am hating every bit of HP petrol. It knocks much more now and makes engine sound harsh.

Regarding the other issue, next time try this, while you close the throttle, shift to next higher gear and then see whether you are still getting those vibs or not. I have the same issue but i don't think its abnormal.

**psr** · 09-26-2012, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post

Thanx for the clarification..

Well that time of 200+ km is long gone. During that 1st service was done, my bikes cylinder head was opened and the valve/tappet settings are played with a lot.

Will try next time I change oil. Gonna keep the same motul 3000 15W50 oil so wil get to see effect of aging of oil. Meanwhile I have started doing my own reading about the carburetor and stuff in details. Will be needing to recall all the stuff I learnt about IC engines during engineering.

Why was the head opened on a new engine ?
Regarding CV carburetor tuning Here is a helpful link.

CV Carb Tuning Procedures

**nilesh14587** · 09-26-2012, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Why was the head opened on a new engine ?
Regarding CV carburetor tuning Here is a helpful link.

CV Carb Tuning Procedures

Are Sir, the mechanic screwed up the tappet settings during 1st service. Then next time i took it back to correct it, the mechanic opened up the head and screwed it up even bad. In third attempt, he kept the bike for a whole day and reset the cam-settings and now the tappet noise is almost gone, engine is quite smooth.

That mechanics had told me that if there is abnormal tappet sound or vibs in engine then Bajaj has told all the NS mechanics to tighten all bolts etc on the rocker arms and valve springs etc. So he opened the cylinder head. Atleast it looked like those guys knew what are they doing.

**psr** · 09-26-2012, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post

Are Sir, the mechanic screwed up the tappet settings during 1st service. Then next time i took it back to correct it, the mechanic opened up the head and screwed it up even bad. In third attempt, he kept the bike for a whole day and reset the cam-settings and now the tappet noise is almost gone, engine is quite smooth.

That mechanics had told me that if there is abnormal tappet sound or vibs in engine then Bajaj has told all the NS mechanics to tighten all bolts etc on the rocker arms and valve springs etc. So he opened the cylinder head. Atleast it looked like those guys knew what are they doing.

Opening the head is for extreme case ...was yours like that ? because no one else had reported this...if the problem had been corrected and engine is good ,then nothing to worry...
do read the contents of the link which will give you some idea about CV carb tuning.

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