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**vin_amulya** · 11-17-2012, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post

and tuning the carb on emission check unit at the SVC is this charged to the customer??(asking for free as well as paid service) or this is included in normal service? i did see this box type machine written CO emission i guess but it was gathering dust at the SVC

Yes its free and you may check the CO% at 1st service as mentioned in manual.

Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post

To all those in doubt regarding the price of the mid stand, here's the complete break up:

KIT CENTER STAND P200: 451.53 INR
PAID JOB: 50.00 INR
OUTPUT VAT 14.5% on 451.53: 65 INR
SERVICE TAX 12.36% on 50.00: 6.16 INR

Sub total (after tax): 517.00 INR
Net total: 573.00 INR

So overall it should cost around 570 bucks. The manager is a good lad and since he's pretty friendly with me, I just asked him why is it that many people elsewhere find showrooms quoting exorbitant prices for the center stand and he told "even their pockets need some money!" So I just felt I'm fortunate to know a guy who's mainly responsible at the svc. Else they treat the bikes like bi***es.

Tell them to show the BOX. MRP 517.00 INR which is written on it

**Mukoo** · 11-17-2012, 01:09 AM

Hello guys,

Need your suggestion - I have done with 2000+ km. Please help me when can I take my bumbleebee to Service Center?

What is tire pressure for front & rear? - I guess it is in PSI. Sorry if I have written something wrong - hope you understand what I want to convey...

**Rahulbarik** · 11-17-2012, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post

It's alright to ask him a FEW questions. Like you yourself said, don't be a distraction. Just request him in the beginning and he'll let you watch the entire servicing process. Mine took 30 minutes. Dude It wasn't good to remove the guard protecting the monoshock and the chain guard. You'll find yourself in a mess while cleaning the bike up, especially after it's run in the rain. The hugger removal was alright. Btw, those pilots look uber cool!! Loved that front look!

@All, why do I get a smell of badam milkshake after the engine's thoroughly warmed up on a new engine oil? Is it alright or is the hot oil leaking off / getting toasted?

its the smell of the engine oil.....are you using motul 7100? It gives out a pista badam smell when hot... But its definately from engine oil and nothing to worry....

**Rahulbarik** · 11-17-2012, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post

probably because ur jeans or something scratches the tank a lot solutions to it are either ur buy a tank pad like the ones in other pulsars or get a polish job done and then a wax job will clean the metal surface and protect it well also the option is u have a stickering job done by a matt black stripe or a carbon fibre typre sticker stripe on your tank looks good and protects the pain too the pillion seat understorage is full of papers and the toolkit i dont think i can put a cloth in it now guess i have to think more on where to put the cloth

i have put two clothes, my documents and toolbox all under the rear sea. It still have lots of space left on the sides for more

**albyjose** · 11-17-2012, 01:16 PM

First owner is complaining about loss of pick up in NS,service guys unable to restore it.Some NS getting real low mileage,20.Till now no way to fix bike swaying to left,a lot of carburetor issues too.
I am hearing this just when my parents allowed me to get NS after exams.I can live with poor low end torque,lack of stability in high speeds,but rest...
I wish the senior guys who did a lot of riding would contribute to this thread.I wonder why this issues did not come up in reviews and long term review.I mean bike swaying to left is quite hard to miss,right?
Glad that bajaj solved vibration in tank problem.

**Horror** · 11-17-2012, 03:00 PM

In all, the bike swaying to the left, is not such a big issue. As long as the bike is not pulling towards the left, it's fine and won't affect cornering and handling. In my honest opinion all bikes are going to have problems, it's a machine after all. Even hondas 250r has bad reviews from a few people, that does not mean it's a bad bike.

**danny king** · 11-17-2012, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post

To all those in doubt regarding the price of the mid stand, here's the complete break up:

KIT CENTER STAND P200: 451.53 INR
PAID JOB: 50.00 INR
OUTPUT VAT 14.5% on 451.53: 65 INR
SERVICE TAX 12.36% on 50.00: 6.16 INR

Sub total (after tax): 517.00 INR
Net total: 573.00 INR

So overall it should cost around 570 bucks. The manager is a good lad and since he's pretty friendly with me, I just asked him why is it that many people elsewhere find showrooms quoting exorbitant prices for the center stand and he told "even their pockets need some money!" So I just felt I'm fortunate to know a guy who's mainly responsible at the svc. Else they treat the bikes like bi***es.

The local svc here quoted Rs750. As I read in this forum, there is a vast difference in the price of the centre stand. Its as if Bajaj allows the svc people to fix the price. I sent Bajaj three emails and today I received a call form customer service. They did not reveal the price. They just said that customer service does not have the price. I did not argue as it would spoil my day. I was asked to make a purchase and scan the bill/receipt and email to customer service. And I will get a confirmation if that is the correct price or not. What the hell?
And then he went on about scratching the hologram sticker to check if its genuine etc.

Customer service is pathetic.

**mayank.travadi** · 11-17-2012, 03:48 PM

Got my first service done today(200 on odo) and reviews are mixed

bike more or less is same and gear shifts are only a little more smoother not a very big change

I requested to stand there for seeing my bike servicing done but i was told a strict NO
i then recollected that behind the free service coupon you have to sign that the bike was serviced to your satisfaction so i told him my satisfaction will be fullfilled nly if i see my bike being serviced infront of me
he was a bit reluctant but then agreed

i wonder how will i manage to find my way into the service bay after the free and paid services

total charge was 545 rupees

74 for oil filter
16 for consumbales

rest was for oil

i carried a check list around and most work was done(wrote down all that was mentioned in the manual)

started out with oil change and filter change and the oil strainer(which is located just where u open the oil drain bolt well thats what he said i was watching him from behind a glass window and then i made my way in)
spark plug cleaning
petroleum jelly on battery termindals
chain lubrication by gear oil and oks spray
checked the lights horns and other stuff which was functioning or not
test roe to see if clutch play and gear shifting was fine and how the bite of the brake was

then he delivered the bike

on asking and even insisting so many times they did not clean the air filter
he said dont follow the manual exactly the air filter doesnt get dirty soon and on riding everything is fine so no need to clean
asked about reed switch and TPS magnet setting
he said its not necessary

the mechanic working has no idea about all this tings like how to use a CO machine and adjusting reed switch and TPS magnet

i asked check the Co%
he said RTO doesnt allow to change settings and CO%
i thought in mind what bullshit is this

i insisted and then he agreed

the idle hadnt been set but was fine at about 1.5K rpm

checked the CO% and he had set it at about 3.2%

i told this is not right
he said 2.5to 3% is fine(just realized its a little on the richer side and wont mean any harm)

i said no correct setting is 1.5 to 2%

he set it and said sir this is fine u cannot adjust at specific percent it will keep varying
i said okay but why is it hovery at 3% bring it to 1.5to2%

the value was varying between 1.4 to 1.7~1.8%
i said fine and what about valve tappet clearance checkeing and adjusting

he said adjusting valve clearance is a technical term and adjusting tappet is a common term ( is it so? )

we should not touch that unless you hear tappet noise and only check on it at 5K kms(i will get my next service at 1K km and i dont think he'll adjust it on that day too)
if we touch it the factory setting will be changed and the new setting may not be right
i said fine

took the delivery and went

so guys do

is that right? we shouldnt touch tappets or adjust valve clearance till we find tappet noise?

was any thing else missed out on the service??

heard other bajaj ASCs in the city are more or less same

PS

i asked them about tank vibration and bajaj telling to put new rubber grommet and washer

the service executive had no idea about it and just ignored what i said

the mechanic too didnt have any idea about it and simply said that the parts have not come ad this tank and fairing vibration was a issue with the first lots of bikes but bajaj has now rectified it
i said i want those things in my tank bolts
he said next service they'll put as they dont know about this and have no parts

**mayank.travadi** · 11-17-2012, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Rahulbarik View Post

i have put two clothes, my documents and toolbox all under the rear sea. It still have lots of space left on the sides for more

i just causually saw there is no space but when i closely saw there is quite a bit of space on the sides and u can put a small cloth there easily
silly me

**albyjose** · 11-17-2012, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Horror View Post

In all, the bike swaying to the left, is not such a big issue. As long as the bike is not pulling towards the left, it's fine and won't affect cornering and handling. In my honest opinion all bikes are going to have problems, it's a machine after all. Even hondas 250r has bad reviews from a few people, that does not mean it's a bad bike.

Yeah.Thats what I am telling myself.But decrease in pick up?How is that possible?

**mayank.travadi** · 11-17-2012, 04:42 PM

bad tuning
carb jets clogged
bad fuel
fuel line clog
worn chain or sprocket or not lubricated chain
may be AFR screw is damaged or sumthing such that the tuning feels fine but exactly isnt

but i am quite surprised that the SVC cannot rectify a bad pick up issue

carb can be tuned very easily by the CO% analyser machine for perfect setting

**s.roy0717** · 11-17-2012, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by [email protected]

My suggestion will be the MRF Zapper Q & the exact dimension is available for the rear tyre Zapper Q Rear 130/70 - 17, 61 P, Tubeless 140/70-17 also available (as same is there in Honda CBR 150r , check the website). You can go to the authorised MRF dealer & ask for d same , if he says that if the exact dimension is not availble ,U can say its there in Honda CBR 150 & if he can get it for you.

Kindly scan the Market thoroughly at get them . Do post 3-4 pics as soon as you install them.

Front tyre- I think even if u use the current tyres provided then also it will do good, as the maximum weight of the bike is at the rear & not the front.

Do not install any other tyre of different dimension as it will affect the stability & handling of the bike very badly.

For expert information you may log on to (autocarindia.com, Overdrive.com , bsmotoring.com & also youtube for their respective road tests).

If you let me know ur e-mail id , I will mail u the youtube links if u want.

PSD's are made of very soft compund & will wear out quickly, expensive & heavy (will affect starting acceleration).
Also check for warranty as well.

Wid MRF u will get warranty as well.

Very much appreciated if u leave a few links to any info for all the goodies & all here too..

Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post

bad tuning
carb jets clogged
bad fuel
fuel line clog
worn chain or sprocket or not lubricated chain
may be AFR screw is damaged or sumthing such that the tuning feels fine but exactly isnt

but i am quite surprised that the SVC cannot rectify a bad pick up issue

carb can be tuned very easily by the CO% analyser machine for perfect setting

SVC guys, mostly, try to hit blind on the target... :P
Expect the least from em.. Try to finish off the free services & get it serviced from pros there on is a much better solution.

Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post

Got my first service done today(200 on odo) and reviews are mixed

bike more or less is same and gear shifts are only a little more smoother not a very big change

I requested to stand there for seeing my bike servicing done but i was told a strict NO
i then recollected that behind the free service coupon you have to sign that the bike was serviced to your satisfaction so i told him my satisfaction will be fullfilled nly if i see my bike being serviced infront of me
he was a bit reluctant but then agreed

i wonder how will i manage to find my way into the service bay after the free and paid services

total charge was 545 rupees

74 for oil filter
16 for consumbales

rest was for oil

i carried a check list around and most work was done(wrote down all that was mentioned in the manual)

started out with oil change and filter change and the oil strainer(which is located just where u open the oil drain bolt well thats what he said i was watching him from behind a glass window and then i made my way in)
spark plug cleaning
petroleum jelly on battery termindals
chain lubrication by gear oil and oks spray
checked the lights horns and other stuff which was functioning or not
test roe to see if clutch play and gear shifting was fine and how the bite of the brake was

then he delivered the bike

on asking and even insisting so many times they did not clean the air filter
he said dont follow the manual exactly the air filter doesnt get dirty soon and on riding everything is fine so no need to clean
asked about reed switch and TPS magnet setting
he said its not necessary

the mechanic working has no idea about all this tings like how to use a CO machine and adjusting reed switch and TPS magnet

i asked check the Co%
he said RTO doesnt allow to change settings and CO%
i thought in mind what bullshit is this

i insisted and then he agreed

the idle hadnt been set but was fine at about 1.5K rpm

checked the CO% and he had set it at about 3.2%

i told this is not right
he said 2.5to 3% is fine(just realized its a little on the richer side and wont mean any harm)

i said no correct setting is 1.5 to 2%

he set it and said sir this is fine u cannot adjust at specific percent it will keep varying
i said okay but why is it hovery at 3% bring it to 1.5to2%

the value was varying between 1.4 to 1.7~1.8%
i said fine and what about valve tappet clearance checkeing and adjusting

he said adjusting valve clearance is a technical term and adjusting tappet is a common term ( is it so? )

we should not touch that unless you hear tappet noise and only check on it at 5K kms(i will get my next service at 1K km and i dont think he'll adjust it on that day too)
if we touch it the factory setting will be changed and the new setting may not be right
i said fine

took the delivery and went

so guys do

is that right? we shouldnt touch tappets or adjust valve clearance till we find tappet noise?

was any thing else missed out on the service??

heard other bajaj ASCs in the city are more or less same

PS

i asked them about tank vibration and bajaj telling to put new rubber grommet and washer

the service executive had no idea about it and just ignored what i said

the mechanic too didnt have any idea about it and simply said that the parts have not come ad this tank and fairing vibration was a issue with the first lots of bikes but bajaj has now rectified it
i said i want those things in my tank bolts
he said next service they'll put as they dont know about this and have no parts

Interesting review on the servicing..

We should do that more often.. Help us know how's the work everywhere..

Originally posted by albyjose View Post

First owner is complaining about loss of pick up in NS,service guys unable to restore it.Some NS getting real low mileage,20.Till now no way to fix bike swaying to left,a lot of carburetor issues too.
I am hearing this just when my parents allowed me to get NS after exams.I can live with poor low end torque,lack of stability in high speeds,but rest...
I wish the senior guys who did a lot of riding would contribute to this thread.I wonder why this issues did not come up in reviews and long term review.I mean bike swaying to left is quite hard to miss,right?
Glad that bajaj solved vibration in tank problem.

They don't actually put much of the cons in the reviews, not mostly.. & it's a really weird & unexpected issue arising from the NS..

**krish2778** · 11-17-2012, 08:16 PM

Please use the multi-quote option mate

Cheers
Ride Safe
krishna

Originally posted by s.roy0717

They don't actually put much of the cons in the reviews, not mostly.. & it's a really weird & unexpected issue arising from the NS..

**Aditya N Bharadwaj** · 11-17-2012, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by muztariq View Post

The smell is that of shell engine oil!! Its gives a characteristic smell when hot!! Are you sure you are using the right grade!? I think you are on 10W-40 when you should be xxW-50!!

Yep I use 10w40. Is it alright? I believe it's really good. I didn't find any good semi synth oils with 15w50 or 20w50 grade.

Originally posted by Rahulbarik View Post

its the smell of the engine oil.....are you using motul 7100? It gives out a pista badam smell when hot... But its definately from engine oil and nothing to worry....

I use shell ax7 semi synthetic. Motul FS at 5k kms. Changed the oil yesterday. And ya, it did smell really fresh

And one query. The oil when changed was golden yellow in colour and almost completely transparent. After I did a long ride today with a heavy pillion, I saw the oil had turned a bit reddish. Normal? Or am I worrying too much?

Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post

on asking and even insisting so many times they did not clean the air filter
Same to me too.

he said dont follow the manual (wtf?) exactly the air filter doesnt get dirty soon and on riding everything is fine so no need to clean
asked about reed switch and TPS magnet setting
he said its not necessary.
He probably doesn't know what they are!

i asked check the Co%
he said RTO doesnt allow to change settings and CO%
LOL nice svc you went to!

i said fine and what about valve tappet clearance checkeing and adjusting
we should not touch that unless you hear tappet noise and only check on it at 5K kms(i will get my next service at 1K km and i dont think he'll adjust it on that day too)
if we touch it the factory setting will be changed and the new setting may not be right
i said fine
is that right? we shouldnt touch tappets or adjust valve clearance till we find tappet noise?
Get the tappet settings adjusted if you hear any kind of rattling sound. But I read somewhere on the internet that a noisy valve is a happy valve. Correct me if I'm wrong.

was any thing else missed out on the service??
Nope! It was good for the checklist but then again you know the quality of their work.

heard other bajaj ASCs in the city are more or less same.
True! Sometimes I feel sorry for those mechanics who aren't properly trained to handle their flagship product and ultimately face our brunt for improper servicing.

PS

i asked them about tank vibration and bajaj telling to put new rubber grommet and washer
the service executive had no idea about it and just ignored what i said
That was expected. Atleast he wasn't like my ASC service executive I hope. He didn't know the NS had a choke and began searching for it using his nokia torchlight phone!

i said i want those things in my tank bolts
he said next service they'll put as they dont know about this and have no parts
You can try getting rubber washers for those bolts locally. I don't know if they'll work coz I haven't tried them personally but I have a hunch that they might after looking at what Bajaj have released for the same.

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Originally posted by mayank.travadi View Post

bad tuning
carb jets clogged
bad fuel
fuel line clog
worn chain or sprocket or not lubricated chain
may be AFR screw is damaged or sumthing such that the tuning feels fine but exactly isnt

but i am quite surprised that the SVC cannot rectify a bad pick up issue

carb can be tuned very easily by the CO% analyser machine for perfect setting

Most of my friends' 220s turned out to be crap in a few years' time. Yet a cbr was as strong as a bull. All because of improper service by the bajaj svcs. Bajaj's products are really good. But if their service was upto the mark, they might have surpassed the yamahas and the hondas!

**tejas1509** · 11-17-2012, 08:29 PM

So Many guys complaining about svc treatment... i would suggest go to Probiking svc.. i.e. the one owned by shreeram bajaj .... my friends have had good experriences...

edit : I will also be going there on wednesday... Thane one

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