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**jenimu_kanna007** · 09-24-2012, 11:33 PM

i have done my first service at 765 kms before first service its only gave me 33kmpl after that does the mileage improve ? i have fitted center stand for my bike which is 550 ...... rear brake padel vibrating while breaking what will be the cause for this ?

**surampudijagadeesh** · 09-24-2012, 11:44 PM

Originally posted by utsavchs View Post

A strange thing occurred today with the NS. In the morning, when I started the bike the idling was good at 1.8k RPM. Later after riding it around for 36kms the idling automatically went up till 3k. I quickly took it back to the show room to get it fixed. This has occurred twice now in the past 90kms. Is this normal? Anyone facing such an issue. Happens only when it is started for the first time in the morning.

Try setting the idling when the engine is warm or has run about 15min or so, then set the idling at 1400rpm, after that you should not have such problem recurring. After this setting you might experience problem with bike starting when it is cold, then use the choke.

**sands794** · 09-25-2012, 12:02 AM

okay i thought i wanted to end OT discussion, where its completely pointless for me to say that cars are better on a bike forum

Originally posted by somen1984 View Post

I am not at all aginst bikes, i my self have raced skoda on highways but when they get space they ramp out i was at 130kmph+ and same was skoda but suddenly skoda went Zoommmmmmm..... it was like i was riding at 80kmph and he would be on 140kmph!! So embarassing !!!

this is exactly what i meant, 0-100 is not what matters on highways, a car is much better off against crazy lorries, dogs, and sudden potholes than a 2 wheeler is, i own an ns, why would i diss it on purpose? because my car rules it once the road opens up, a fortuner would eat it for breakfast, a car is safer as well. At 120 my ns is screaming almost at the top of its lungs, while my humble swift is cruising, and to the person who wanted to compare a swift to a liter class bike, LOL, compare a performance car to a performance bike, you think the liter class or above would hold a candle to the veyron? nope, i can continue an OT discussion as long as we want, but then the mods would kick us out so ..........

**utsavchs** · 09-25-2012, 12:04 AM

What fuel, what speed you ride and how are you measuring the mileage? What is the idling?

For brake paddle vibes, check brake fluid level and if some bolt is loose.

Originally posted by surampudijagadeesh View Post

Try setting the idling when the engine is warm or has run about 15min or so, then set the idling at 1400rpm, after that you should not have such problem recurring. After this setting you might experience problem with bike starting when it is cold, then use the choke.

Where is the choke? Sorry for this noobish question, I still dint find out where it is.

**J K** · 09-25-2012, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by jenimu_kanna007 View Post

i have done my first service at 765 kms before first service its only gave me 33kmpl after that does the mileage improve ? i have fitted center stand for my bike which is 550 ...... rear brake padel vibrating while breaking what will be the cause for this ?

Mileage should improve after first service.
But it also depends up on the riding style.
For brake pedals query, do as Utsavchs said.

**Shibadip** · 09-25-2012, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by sands794 View Post

okay i thought i wanted to end OT discussion, where its completely pointless for me to say that cars are better on a bike forum

this is exactly what i meant, 0-100 is not what matters on highways, a car is much better off against crazy lorries, dogs, and sudden potholes than a 2 wheeler is, i own an ns, why would i diss it on purpose? because my car rules it once the road opens up, a fortuner would eat it for breakfast, a car is safer as well. At 120 my ns is screaming almost at the top of its lungs, while my humble swift is cruising, and to the person who wanted to compare a swift to a liter class bike, LOL, compare a performance car to a performance bike, you think the liter class or above would hold a candle to the veyron? nope, i can continue an OT discussion as long as we want, but then the mods would kick us out so ..........

Friend if you can compare a mere 200 cc bike to a car, then that person has all the right to compare a swift to a liter class bike.

**Satellite.kid** · 09-25-2012, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by sands794 View Post

okay i thought i wanted to end OT discussion, where its completely pointless for me to say that cars are better on a bike forum

this is exactly what i meant, 0-100 is not what matters on highways, a car is much better off against crazy lorries, dogs, and sudden potholes than a 2 wheeler is, i own an ns, why would i diss it on purpose? because my car rules it once the road opens up, a fortuner would eat it for breakfast, a car is safer as well. At 120 my ns is screaming almost at the top of its lungs, while my humble swift is cruising, and to the person who wanted to compare a swift to a liter class bike, LOL, compare a performance car to a performance bike, you think the liter class or above would hold a candle to the veyron? nope, i can continue an OT discussion as long as we want, but then the mods would kick us out so ..........

What do you feel about a motorcycle like Ninja 650 when the road opens up to a highway? This motorcycle can more than keep up with a car like swift or the likes and can easily outrun the cars in that segment and above it. Now Ninja 650 is not a liter bike nor is it a 600cc inline 4 sportbike like ZX6R. It's a humble 2 cylinder 600cc that will eat up most cars that run on our roads (cities or highways). Don't compare a 200cc NS with a swift's performance, or worse a Fortuner!!! That's a joke.

Regarding veyron. Sir I am compelled to write here that you are continually bringing wrong examples into the comparison. Veyron is a sort of a high end car that is even uncommon among people who have enough money to buy a good sportscar like a Porche or even a Lamborghini or a Ferrari. You can safely conclude that any sportbike will do much more than holding a candle against a veyron in most riding conditions, unless the road/highway is long and empty enough for a veyron to test its topspeed. The End from my side.

**ankur2smart** · 09-25-2012, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by Vineet_200 View Post

@RD where did you get your service done ?

@bengaluru ppl am up for my first service which SVC is the best in bangalore ?

Well I have heard Khivraj motors, kasturba road is very good. Do share your first service exp.

**robot** · 09-25-2012, 09:41 AM

hello to all my xbhpian fiends. this is my first post though I am following xbhp since long.
Yesterday I got My 200NS A.K.A MaNtiS

. now friends can you please give some details about Break-in Process.
thanks.

**Thunder** · 09-25-2012, 09:55 AM

Reply is simple - check your Booklet.
Else Check MOTOMAN

**surampudijagadeesh** · 09-25-2012, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by utsavchs View Post

What fuel, what speed you ride and how are you measuring the mileage? What is the idling?

For brake paddle vibes, check brake fluid level and if some bolt is loose.

Where is the choke? Sorry for this noobish question, I still dint find out where it is.

On the left side of the engine under the frame near the head. There will be written choke on it.

**surampudijagadeesh** · 09-25-2012, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post

What do you feel about a motorcycle like Ninja 650 when the road opens up to a highway? This motorcycle can more than keep up with a car like swift or the likes and can easily outrun the cars in that segment and above it. Now Ninja 650 is not a liter bike nor is it a 600cc inline 4 sportbike like ZX6R. It's a humble 2 cylinder 600cc that will eat up most cars that run on our roads (cities or highways). Don't compare a 200cc NS with a swift's performance, or worse a Fortuner!!! That's a joke.

Regarding veyron. Sir I am compelled to write here that you are continually bringing wrong examples into the comparison. Veyron is a sort of a high end car that is even uncommon among people who have enough money to buy a good sportscar like a Porche or even a Lamborghini or a Ferrari. You can safely conclude that any sportbike will do much more than holding a candle against a veyron in most riding conditions, unless the road/highway is long and empty enough for a veyron to test its topspeed. The End from my side.

+1 on that. Well, since no one is going to get our point, we should end this discussion.

It has been 700km with castrol gtx 20w50 and the engine is still smooth. And I bought myself a studds downtown full-face helmet and it is so comfortable. I am also getting some gloves this week, not decided which.

After the engine oil change, all the vibes except for the console buzzing are gone.

**Rohan200ns** · 09-25-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Shibadip View Post

If you doubt if NS can do 150+, then there is a video on Youtube of a Blue NS doing 151kmph. ( i am not saying it was actual/ accurate speed though)

And regarding ur quoted doubt, it depends on what kind of rider you are. If you like to cruise, then you must look into more Torque providing bike(eg bullet) when you can climb uphill or roll off at low speeds, even at high gears, without any stress on the engine..
And if you ara a top-speed kindda guy, the Power is what you must look for (eg Ninja 250)

My personal experience - if one is more of a City rider, riding in Bumper to bumper traffic, then he must give a look if there is good enough torque in the bike Especially in the LOW end, or else there will be too much gear changes if he loves his bike.

Originally posted by punarvasu View Post

Thanks for the prompt, clear answer in simple words. Power or torque is an ever going debate; it seems. So I am waiting for other expert’s opinions and I think it will be helpful to all the bikers here and to those planning to buy new bike.
And the more than 150 kmh speed, the answer is in your comment itself, in brackets. My logic is simple: since there is a rev limiter in NS, it cannot speed up to that extent. Anyway, it is not very important.

Originally posted by sands794 View Post

okay i thought i wanted to end OT discussion, where its completely pointless for me to say that cars are better on a bike forum

this is exactly what i meant, 0-100 is not what matters on highways, a car is much better off against crazy lorries, dogs, and sudden potholes than a 2 wheeler is, i own an ns, why would i diss it on purpose? because my car rules it once the road opens up, a fortuner would eat it for breakfast, a car is safer as well. At 120 my ns is screaming almost at the top of its lungs, while my humble swift is cruising, and to the person who wanted to compare a swift to a liter class bike, LOL, compare a performance car to a performance bike, you think the liter class or above would hold a candle to the veyron? nope, i can continue an OT discussion as long as we want, but then the mods would kick us out so ..........

Buy a bike which costs 6+ lakhs if u wanna feel completely safe on the highway ...till then , be happy with street racing ...
what i mean to say is , both ns and duke are primarily built for quick city rides but they also happen to take the highways every now and then .. You need a bike which can do speeds of 150-180kmph in its mid revs for highways ...

**swashbuckler01** · 09-25-2012, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by Shibadip View Post

If you doubt if NS can do 150+, then there is a video on Youtube of a Blue NS doing 151kmph. ( i am not saying it was actual/ accurate speed though)

And regarding ur quoted doubt, it depends on what kind of rider you are. If you like to cruise, then you must look into more Torque providing bike(eg bullet) when you can climb uphill or roll off at low speeds, even at high gears, without any stress on the engine..
And if you ara a top-speed kindda guy, the Power is what you must look for (eg Ninja 250)

My personal experience - if one is more of a City rider, riding in Bumper to bumper traffic, then he must give a look if there is good enough torque in the bike Especially in the LOW end, or else there will be too much gear changes if he loves his bike.

Pulsar can do 150+ but then it will shake so much that rider may end up flying away from the bike. lol

**nilesh14587** · 09-25-2012, 11:27 AM

You should put on some Math here. It would be easy to prove your point. What you say is correct, assuming the bike reached its top speed in all "favorable condition" and redlining in top gear, its the rpm ratios of transmission which would say what is the relation between engine rpm and tire. (NOTE conditions like, wind resistance, power/torque, gradient of road etc will decide whether you can achieve top speed or not in given condition. I am assuming everything is favorable. and top speed is achieved) But without putting proper number in some simple formula what you are saying is just like shooting in dark.

As I have observed NS has a indicated speed of 70kmph for rpm of approximately 4800 in 6th gear. considering this, it should do about 153kmph @ the rpm of 10500 in 6th gear. The transmission ratios remain same in both above examples. And i think NS is quite capable of doing 10500 rpm. This is just a rough math.

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