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  • Hello, I just received my share of the mighty beastie, i.e. 200NS (Black). Have put up around 37x kms on odo. Performs like a gem! Surely this one is gonna be a love affair!
    ....Riding the Indian Monster : 200NS....
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    • Originally posted by surojit View Post
      Pics from my recent ride....



      Wow! I love the pics! Especially the second one. The NS looks so damn good from far! It's my wallpaper now!
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      • Originally posted by praveen6585 View Post
        Hi Aditya.. thanks for the feedback and instructions.. could you please give more details about the first part of the tuning.. when you say 'twisted the fuel screw as clockwise as possible (i.e the engine should be able to sustain it's rpm)', what should be sign to stop turning? can we judge it by the RPM? also u mentioned idle RPM was 1.4k.. is that when the engine was cool or after heating up?

        my current RPM is abt 1.1k when cold and abt 1.4k when warm
        When I said 'As clockwise as possible, so that the engine can sustain it's rpm', I meant I kept turning the screw clockwise till the engine was just about to turn off (due to very lean mixture of course). You can make out the engine is about to go off while turning by listening to the sound. I noticed the tachometer, it showed <1k rpm just before turning off. You don't have to keep peeking at the tachometer while you're at it. Just keep your ear alert (and please note, it's not the idling screw you need to fiddle with since your idling rpm is perfect, it's the fuel screw located all the way inside - mentioned this just in case you didn't know! ).

        I saw a suggestion on this thread (please forgive me, I don't recall who gave the wonderful advice) to next turn the screw anticlockwise a few calculated number of revolutions till the engine breathes easy and runs happily. The 1.4k rpm was when the engine was warm of course. Tuning shouldn't be done when the engine is cold. Besides, it's hard to tune, especially for an amateur, like me. It took many trials and errors before I got it right. Every time you feel you've twisted the screw perfectly, take the babe for a small spin and you can make out any imperfections whatsoever.

        I've now decided that I'll never again mess with the screws for I've achieved the perfect tune. But I don't know if further tuning has to be done after a few hundred / thousand more kilometers. Can anyone help me out on this?

        @Everyone, I'd been to the SVC this evening and out of doubt I asked the serviceman about the running in procedures. He said, there's no need to follow running in procedures as the people at the PLANT are instructed to thrash the vehicle for ~20km as soon as it's manufactured. According to him, they follow the motoman's method of running in their bikes and our bikes are completely mature. I asked him 'then why are the strict run-in rpms printed in the owner's manual?' and he said parts of the manual have been copied from the 220f. How far is this true? Can anyone throw some light on this?
        Last edited by Aditya N Bharadwaj; 09-21-2012, 10:49 PM. Reason: Missed one small detail
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        • Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
          @All

          Has anyone tried clutchless gear shifts on the mighty NS???

          Was just wondering whether clutchless shifing (if done correctly) is harmful to bike or not....any comment??
          clutchless upshift,if done properly,is not harmful.down-shift is strict no no.
          and the question remains why do i race?
          every finishing line is the begining of a new race.

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          (:)people keeps on saying add spark to life, bajaj got hold of that idea and added an extra spark to bike.

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          • Originally posted by nilesh14587 View Post
            @All

            Has anyone tried clutchless gear shifts on the mighty NS???

            Was just wondering whether clutchless shifing (if done correctly) is harmful to bike or not....any comment??
            I once shifted from 5 to 6 without holding the clutch (by mistake). It was just as smooth though. Don't know about the other gears. But just like @sagar_phoenix asked, why would you wanna shift without using the clutch?
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              Got my bike yesterday .. thanks to the forum for helping me choose the best bike in the lot.... not much of a experienced geared rider to comment about the bike.Strictly following the run in period and encountered 2 or 3 times false gear shift other than that bike is very good.Waiting for first service.

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              • Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                I once shifted from 5 to 6 without holding the clutch (by mistake). It was just as smooth though. Don't know about the other gears. But just like @sagar_phoenix asked, why would you wanna shift without using the clutch?
                You can shift without clutch. Am now doing that.
                Am using clutch in 1st to 2nd. Rest of gears are slotting without clutch. Its more easy. Smooth.
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                • Originally posted by psr View Post
                  P200 NS is a carburetor fed engine and does not have ECU
                  But the pulsar site says it has ignition type of Independent spark control through ECU. I'm not much aware of these technical thingies. Can u pls explain?

                  Originally posted by csajal View Post
                  Our Pulsar 200 NS does have an ECU and the primary function of it is enforce the shift indication and cutting of fuel supply afte a specific rpm, but above all the ECU controls the functioning and synchronization of the slave spark plugs to provide optimum fuel burning for optimum power and performance.
                  Okey... Now what i was thinking was, if I could manage to provide an after market programmable ECU on the bike, during run in period i can limit the rpm to 7000. And after that I can increase the cut off a bit more than what comes in stock (I remember reading somewhere here that the bike has the capacity to rev a bit more from the stock cut off). And I hope by that I will be able to get a bit more power than 23.5. Is this possible?

                  Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
                  How does the Engine Control Unit have anything to with ABS? How does an ECU in a carb bike cuts of the fuel supply, when there's no electronic control of Fuel, ie Fuel Injection. It doesn't choke the fuel supply but limits the current going to spark plugs (rev limiter). In carb ECU is the CDI, and that's about it! No ECU here. But Bajaj likes to call the CDI the ECU.
                  Now that makes me much more confused.
                  Last edited by Arun Magus; 09-22-2012, 12:55 AM.
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                  • Originally posted by J K View Post
                    Nice . . .
                    BTW, where is the stand? Bike is standing straight na?
                    LEts say NS is such awesome handler, that it can stand straight without any support
                    Originally posted by sagar_phoenix View Post
                    Nice pic buddy But Two things which stand out are

                    1. yellow coolant
                    2. Bike is straight and there is No stand as JK pointed out
                    1) If the background grass can be YEllow, then why not the coolant..
                    2)LEts say NS is such awesome handler, that it can stand straight without any support
                    Originally posted by surojit View Post
                    Yes sir, I use a Canon t1i, bike is behaving fine apart from vibrations and noises , i dont feel much vibrations in handle, but yes footpegs and tank and pillion seat have vibrations.
                    JUst came back after a Long enough ride, and I'm facing the same Issues as told by you. Plus I think there is some problem in the Fuel line in my DESTINY.
                    Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                    I've now decided that I'll never again mess with the screws for I've achieved the perfect tune. But I don't know if further tuning has to be done after a few hundred / thousand more kilometers. Can anyone help me out on this?
                    After tevery tuning, you will be satisfied with the small rides. But Take a Long ride, to understand the overall feel of the bike, and both in free routes,and on the route where you will usually ride. Then you will understand whether the tuning is OK or not.

                    Every time I tune, I fell it's the best in the immediate short spin. But while Long ride, i feel that the Engine needs some more tuning.

                    Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post
                    @Everyone, I'd been to the SVC this evening and out of doubt I asked the serviceman about the running in procedures. He said, there's no need to follow running in procedures as the people at the PLANT are instructed to thrash the vehicle for ~20km as soon as it's manufactured. According to him, they follow the motoman's method of running in their bikes and our bikes are completely mature. I asked him 'then why are the strict run-in rpms printed in the owner's manual?' and he said parts of the manual have been copied from the 220f. How far is this true? Can anyone throw some light on this?
                    I have taken my bike to 7 - 7.5 k RPM also. I believe, new engine can take such revs, and it will provide a better break-in, as there will be adequate pressure for the rings to get sealed. But try doing it in the high gear, and Keep in mind not to go to the redline. Before that it's safe enough.
                    Originally posted by Arun Magus
                    But the pulsar site says it has ignition type of Independent spark control through ECU. I'm not much aware of these technical thingies. Can u pls explain?
                    As Rahul Devnath said, NS has a CDI, which Bajaj refers as ECU.No ECU is present in NS in real.
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                    • Originally posted by Arun Magus View Post
                      But the pulsar site says it has ignition type of Independent spark control through ECU. I'm not much aware of these technical thingies. Can u pls explain?

                      Okey... Now what i was thinking was, if I could manage to provide an after market programmable ECU on the bike, during run in period i can limit the rpm to 7000. And after that I can increase the cut off a bit more than what comes in stock (I remember reading somewhere here that the bike has the capacity to rev a bit more from the stock cut off). And I hope by that I will be able to get a bit more power than 23.5. Is this possible?
                      ECU means Engine Control Unit...It is also known as ECM Engine Control Module...
                      It controls The amount of fuel Injected into the Cylinder through PWM of Injector coil, controls Ignition timing at various loads and RPMs, and Limits the RPM to pre-set level..Of the functions ,the first two are the most significant controls...For doing this the Unit requires the following main inputs,
                      1. Lambda sensor to tell it about the amount of oxygen in Exhaust..at Exhaust manifold, and after Catalytic converter.
                      2. Inlet Air Temperature,
                      3. Engine / coolant temperature
                      4. Throttle Position Sensor input.
                      Except for Electronic RPM Limiter in CDI ,which is present in all modern stock CDIs, rest all are not present in P200NS...
                      P200 NS has a CDI with RPM limiter,which cannot be termed as ECU and it's preset values are not open for modification.
                      Please read the Info in the link...

                      Engine control unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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                      • Originally posted by psr View Post
                        ECU means Engine Control Unit...It is also known as ECM Engine Control Module...
                        It controls The amount of fuel Injected into the Cylinder through PWM of Injector coil, controls Ignition timing at various loads and RPMs, and Limits the RPM to pre-set level..Of the functions ,the first two are the most significant controls...For doing this the Unit requires the following main inputs,
                        1. Lambda sensor to tell it about the amount of oxygen in Exhaust..at Exhaust manifold, and after Catalytic converter.
                        2. Inlet Air Temperature,
                        3. Engine / coolant temperature
                        4. Throttle Position Sensor input.
                        Except for Electronic RPM Limiter in CDI ,which is present in all modern stock CDIs, rest all are not present in P200NS...
                        P200 NS has a CDI with RPM limiter,which cannot be termed as ECU and it's preset values are not open for modification.
                        Please read the Info in the link...

                        Engine control unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                        Went through the link. So, if the CDI in NS was one which could be remapped, will what ever I said make sense? And I would also like to know some of the bikes in india with ECU (srry for the OT)
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                        • ^^ Every Bike whose engine have Electronic Fuel Injection(EFI), have an ECU.
                          Eg - Duke, R15, CBR250R, Ninja 250, CBR150R, Bullet 500, and some commuter models of Hero(Probably Glamor PGMFI)
                          Last edited by Shibadip; 09-22-2012, 01:38 AM.
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                          • Originally posted by Arun Magus View Post
                            Went through the link. So, if the CDI in NS was one which could be remapped, will what ever I said make sense? And I would also like to know some of the bikes in india with ECU (srry for the OT)
                            All Bikes with Fuel Injection...CBR 150,250,KTM,Ninjas,Karizma ZMR,Hyosung,Super Splendor ,Glamour,Yamaha R 15, etc., Google and find out...
                            If you alter the CDI to higher rev limit,there is a good chance the engine will go into destruction.Each engine is designed for certain amount of RPM only and the designer sets limits to operate the engine within Safe Limits.
                            Last edited by psr; 09-22-2012, 01:47 AM.
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                            • Originally posted by Shibadip View Post
                              ^^ Every Bike whose engine have Electronic Fuel Injection(EFI), have an ECU.
                              Eg - Duke, R15, CBR250R, Ninja 250, CBR150R, Bullet 500, and some commuter models of Hero(Probably Glamor PGMFI)
                              okzz...

                              Originally posted by psr View Post
                              All Bikes with Fuel Injection...CBR 150,250,KTM,Ninjas,Karizma ZMR,Hyosung,Super Splendor ,Glamour,Yamaha R 15, etc., Google and find out...
                              If you alter the CDI to higher rev limit,there is a good chance the engine will go into destruction.Each engine is designed for certain amount of RPM only and the designer sets limits to operate the engine within Safe Limits.
                              Ok got it...
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                              • now-a-days, programable CDI units are also available, and you can program them just like and ECU, with the help of a software and a laptop.
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