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  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by kris123456 View Post
    Check amazon. You will find many.

    Buy it yourself and pour into engine without draining oil. Start the engine and rev it to5k rpm and hold it there for 10 min or so as per instructions.
    Drain the oils out. You are done with decarbonising.

    Svc ‘s use similar items with lower quality.


    Will any of these work?

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    • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

      No these are fuel injection cleaners, you need engine flush for decarbonising the engine, before oil change add it to engine oil rev for some time and then drain the oil.

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      • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

        Originally posted by Pranav19 View Post
        No these are fuel injection cleaners, you need engine flush for decarbonising the engine, before oil change add it to engine oil rev for some time and then drain the oil.
        But the SVC guys used some fluid which they put through the carburetors in replacement of petrol and kept the bike running for 15- 20 mins ..

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        • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

          They might be carb cleaners, don't have much idea about them, haven't used them.

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          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

            Originally posted by pratikthereddevil View Post
            What exactly should I look for on amazon decarbonising or carburetor cleaning additive fluid or any thing else...can you provide any link of the product it would be of great help.
            Originally posted by pratikthereddevil View Post
            What liquid is used in service centres during decarbonising of engine / carburetor....
            Originally posted by pratikthereddevil View Post

            Will any of these work?
            Actually carburettor cleaner solvent is different than injector cleaners. Injector cleaners can be used in tank as the holes in a carbed jet and holes in an injector is cleaned the same way as fuel is sprayed from them. Carburettor cleaners on the other hand are SPRAY type that are used to clean the inside gunk and the exterior of the carburetor in carbs that are soiled with fuel residue, that black goop that you usually see on the carb, that's one. Once sprayed they dissolve the gunk and is easy to clean the carb to make it s spanking new carb.

            Injector cleaners on the other hand, work the same way and can be used in a carbed engine too, but don'y expect miracle results, though they reduce build up if any on the jets and passages due to repeated usage.



            Can be used for cleaning after dismantling the carb.

            Cheers!
            VJ
            Last edited by B7ACKTHORN; 10-10-2017, 10:38 PM.
            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
            The girl said, 'NO!'


            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


            THE END

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            • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

              Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
              Actually carburettor cleaner solvent is different than injector cleaners. Injector cleaners can be used in tank as the holes in a carbed jet and holes in an injector is cleaned the same way as fuel is sprayed from them. Carburettor cleaners on the other hand are SPRAY type that are used to clean the inside gunk and the exterior of the carburetor in carbs that are soiled with fuel residue, that black goop that you usually see on the carb, that's one. Once sprayed they dissolve the gunk and is easy to clean the carb to make it s spanking new carb.

              Injector cleaners on the other hand, work the same way and can be used in a carbed engine too, but don'y expect miracle results, though they reduce build up if any on the jets and passages due to repeated usage.



              Can be used for cleaning after dismantling the carb.

              Cheers!
              VJ
              OK.. I have recently cleaned the carburetor but the mechanic used petrol to clean the carb is that ok..because I am feeling sluggish acceleration in some rpm so wanted to use some fluid which can be use without opening the carburetors again...or should I re tune the carbs

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              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                Originally posted by pratikthereddevil View Post
                OK.. I have recently cleaned the carburetor but the mechanic used petrol to clean the carb is that ok..because I am feeling sluggish acceleration in some rpm so wanted to use some fluid which can be use without opening the carburetors again...or should I re tune the carbs
                Carbs should be retuned after a carb dismantle and most roadside mechs use kerosene or petrol which is not bad either. As long as the cleaning is done good, it's all that matters in the end. Sluggishness after a carb dismantle means, the carb requires a retune, considering the rest of the carb is installed properly.

                Cheers!
                VJ
                Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                The girl said, 'NO!'


                And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                THE END

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                • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                  Originally posted by pratikthereddevil View Post

                  Will any of these work?
                  Okay.
                  I think, i should have been more clear on this topic as these subjects are very specific.
                  The de-carbonization of the engine, which our SVC's sell is actually different from SVC to SVC. They sell one of the following.
                  I actually got confused and answered your query in the regular SVC style.

                  Engine flush, needed, when you run your engine more than whats recommended by manufacturer. What happens is, Oil forms small lumps in your engine and it doesn't get flushed out when you change the oil next time. These small lumps keep damaging new engine oil, when you put in. Also, they reduce the flow.
                  For this problem, we do a Engine Flush.


                  We put this into the engine and keep it revved at 5K odd or so, as per instructions and drain the oil. All the lumps and other grime in block will get converted to liquid with this and get thrown out into pan, when you drain oil.
                  This liquid is a solvent, which just dissolves all impurities. To do so, it has to hit all lumps, so you keep the engine ON and rev it.

                  Injector Cleaner:
                  Do you know, put petrol on any bottle, which has paper sticker. The sticker comes out easily without leaving the gum as residue on the bottle.

                  This happens because, Petrol is a very good solvent.
                  These injector cleaners are more powerful solvents than Petrol. You add it to the fuel in your tank. When you use your vehicle, this liquid goes to engine and in the process, runs through injectors and melts out the grime, which couldnt be melted by petrol. This residue gets burned on piston and your injectors get cleaned in this process.



                  The third one is Piston Decarbonisation
                  When you burn fuel on piston, some impurities remain and get stuck to piston. The more impurities get stuck there, the gap between piston and the head decreases. this results in inefficient combustion. (Hardly in mm, but it makes a difference as engines are run at thousands of RPM per min. ECU's determine the gap in MM and put petrol there for combustion, but change in gap causes inefficient combustion)

                  These impurities are nothing but TAR. the one on which you ride your vehicle on.
                  To remove them you need water based Solvent. You run the engine with petrol and you put these water based solvents in air Intake. or through Carb. during combustion process, the grime gets molten and sticks to h2o vapour atoms and goes out through exhaust pipe. This is the reason, you see a ton of white smoke after this process.

                  Buy Sea Foam Motor Treatment | Fuel System Cleaner, Fuel Stabilizer & Oil Treatment | Gas & Diesel Additive for Cars & Trucks | 16 oz, Pack of 1: Fuel System Cleaners - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases


                  Attached all required products. feel free to pick the one you need.


                  Another note with Warning.
                  You can add some water to your petrol tank. 5-10 ml. once every 10K odd or so. This water also can dissolve the carbon on your pistons and you can check in YouTube or other sites. But You will risk your vehicle. Beware of this. Also, it might not work on FI bikes, as they have Fuel Filter, which filters out water.
                  Last edited by kris123456; 10-10-2017, 11:00 PM.

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                  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                    Carbs should be retuned after a carb dismantle and most roadside mechs use kerosene or petrol which is not bad either. As long as the cleaning is done good, it's all that matters in the end. Sluggishness after a carb dismantle means, the carb requires a retune, considering the rest of the carb is installed properly.

                    Cheers!
                    VJ
                    Ok.. I'll retune the carb and check

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                    • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                      Originally posted by kris123456 View Post
                      Okay.
                      I think, i should have been more clear on this topic as these subjects are very specific.
                      The de-carbonization of the engine, which our SVC's sell is actually different from SVC to SVC. They sell one of the following.
                      I actually got confused and answered your query in the regular SVC style.

                      Engine flush, needed, when you run your engine more than whats recommended by manufacturer. What happens is, Oil forms small lumps in your engine and it doesn't get flushed out when you change the oil next time. These small lumps keep damaging new engine oil, when you put in. Also, they reduce the flow.
                      For this problem, we do a Engine Flush.


                      We put this into the engine and keep it revved at 5K odd or so, as per instructions and drain the oil. All the lumps and other grime in block will get converted to liquid with this and get thrown out into pan, when you drain oil.
                      This liquid is a solvent, which just dissolves all impurities. To do so, it has to hit all lumps, so you keep the engine ON and rev it.

                      Injector Cleaner:
                      Do you know, put petrol on any bottle, which has paper sticker. The sticker comes out easily without leaving the gum as residue on the bottle.

                      This happens because, Petrol is a very good solvent.
                      These injector cleaners are more powerful solvents than Petrol. You add it to the fuel in your tank. When you use your vehicle, this liquid goes to engine and in the process, runs through injectors and melts out the grime, which couldnt be melted by petrol. This residue gets burned on piston and your injectors get cleaned in this process.



                      The third one is Piston Decarbonisation
                      When you burn fuel on piston, some impurities remain and get stuck to piston. The more impurities get stuck there, the gap between piston and the head decreases. this results in inefficient combustion. (Hardly in mm, but it makes a difference as engines are run at thousands of RPM per min. ECU's determine the gap in MM and put petrol there for combustion, but change in gap causes inefficient combustion)

                      These impurities are nothing but TAR. the one on which you ride your vehicle on.
                      To remove them you need water based Solvent. You run the engine with petrol and you put these water based solvents in air Intake. or through Carb. during combustion process, the grime gets molten and sticks to h2o vapour atoms and goes out through exhaust pipe. This is the reason, you see a ton of white smoke after this process.

                      Buy Sea Foam Motor Treatment | Fuel System Cleaner, Fuel Stabilizer & Oil Treatment | Gas & Diesel Additive for Cars & Trucks | 16 oz, Pack of 1: Fuel System Cleaners - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases


                      Attached all required products. feel free to pick the one you need.


                      Another note with Warning.
                      You can add some water to your petrol tank. 5-10 ml. once every 10K odd or so. This water also can dissolve the carbon on your pistons and you can check in YouTube or other sites. But You will risk your vehicle. Beware of this. Also, it might not work on FI bikes, as they have Fuel Filter, which filters out water.
                      Ok...thanks

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                      • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                        It is important to find a good mechanic when you have high performance bike. Opening engine and carb should be done by a good mechanic only.

                        I have found after using bikes for 30 plus years is that sluggishness or smoke generally mean rings are worn or valves are sticky, both problems solved only after changing relevant parts. Any type of flush won't work.

                        Carb is taken care of by adding system g to petrol once a month, which basically cleans the carb without opening.

                        Sent from my LS-5020 using xBhp Connect mobile app

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                        • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                          Originally posted by sgarg View Post
                          It is important to find a good mechanic when you have high performance bike. Opening engine and carb should be done by a good mechanic only.

                          I have found after using bikes for 30 plus years is that sluggishness or smoke generally mean rings are worn or valves are sticky, both problems solved only after changing relevant parts. Any type of flush won't work.

                          Carb is taken care of by adding system g to petrol once a month, which basically cleans the carb without opening.

                          Sent from my LS-5020 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                          Ok.. I'll retune the carb and check if any difference is noticed..Also I recently changes my front disk plate as the earlier one was misaligned and was sticking to the brake pads so I replaced with new disk plate and pads but still it is not 100% free means there still a lil bit of rubbing( jamming) to pads not 100% smooth wheel spinning as it should be . the mechanic told as the pads are new it is happening and it will go away with time .. Been 4 days now still its the same any thing else should I look for

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                          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                            Originally posted by pratikthereddevil View Post
                            Ok.. I'll retune the carb and check if any difference is noticed..Also I recently changes my front disk plate as the earlier one was misaligned and was sticking to the brake pads so I replaced with new disk plate and pads but still it is not 100% free means there still a lil bit of rubbing( jamming) to pads not 100% smooth wheel spinning as it should be . the mechanic told as the pads are new it is happening and it will go away with time .. Been 4 days now still its the same any thing else should I look for
                            Give it a week before the pads break in. Try to incorporate hard braking techniques to make sure the pads are set in adequately, meaning... Ride a little faster and brake hard and come to a stop, do this a couple of times in an empty stretch (safety always first) and give some time for the pads to break in. Secondly, if you still feel there is some snatchiness in the brakes. Bleed your brakes, also check your caliper piston, lube the piston pin. In short, caliper overhaul is recommended.

                            Cheers!
                            VJ
                            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                            The girl said, 'NO!'


                            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                            THE END

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                            • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                              Originally posted by pratikthereddevil View Post
                              Ok.. I'll retune the carb and check if any difference is noticed..Also I recently changes my front disk plate as the earlier one was misaligned and was sticking to the brake pads so I replaced with new disk plate and pads but still it is not 100% free means there still a lil bit of rubbing( jamming) to pads not 100% smooth wheel spinning as it should be . the mechanic told as the pads are new it is happening and it will go away with time .. Been 4 days now still its the same any thing else should I look for
                              Well tight front brakes is a serious problem as it affects bike's balance. Hope the mechanic did a full brake overhaul. Sometimes pins that push the pads get scratched, and pins stop moving freely. Basically pads do not return to original position after you release the brakes. My suggestion is full brake overhaul, where all parts are cleaned and reassembled.

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                              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                                What alternatives exist for the seat for NS200? My rear end really hurts from riding for anything more than 30 minutes. Really hurts!

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