Both of you have your opinions, doesnt mean he is a bajaj advocate or you are a bajaj critic!

1. The NS is marketed as a sports bike and its perimeter frame is mainly for cornering. So I think Bajaj thought that giving the centre stand as an accessory will be better as most of the people will not need it. ( I am one among them and I have no trouble with the side stand ) And as said above, 500 Rs is reasonable for a centre stand if you need one.

2. The horn is weak. That I agree with you wholeheartedly.

3. I have not faced a problem for this issue until now. But Its my personal opinion. You might be having a problem with it.

4. I think before everyone starts bashing the tyres, Let me tell you, they are more than good for daily rides! If you are into serious touring or cornering, then only you need to change it. The rear tyre of my bike skid once when braking suddenly from 60 but it regained composure in less than a second.

5. The mileage which i get is around 40 and a 480 km range seems like it will be sufficient as kaydee_bangalore pointed out, there are plenty of petrol pumps on highways.

6. This point i agree with you. But Spare parts and service will improve as time passes.

And as everyone is saying, Please look at the many positives before looking at the few negatives.

You dont need to remove any panel. Look under the tank from the right hand side and you will see the screw...

Agree with you Sagar. I think the tyres are good for normal riding conditions.. I have covered tarmac and gravel surfaces (dry and wet) in my last 1000Km and have not felt the bike loose composure. The one time it did feel unsettled, was because of my own fault.
If you are going to constantly push the bike to its limits, only then will you feel the need for better tyres.

Thanks for the update buddy. Still waiting for rear mud flap mod pics

hmmmm... nice tone and response there... specially when you are addressing to a Moderator, who know what he says and speaks. I'm hoping that Samarth would take you comment with a pinch of salt and a smile on his face, because he's quite a matured and responsible person

I'm a Pulsar 200 NS owner and I'm neigther a fanboy nor a hater, because I believe in the functional elements of a motorcycle. So, the points you have raise are very much valid, all the points, but at the same time, the tone and aura that you created around those points do not hold that much sanity.

So, I being an owner of the motorcycle that's freaking you out so much, let me answer your questions -

1) Center Stand - Duke 200 is being made in India and no one.. no one in this country, planet or in this universe expects and complains about the lack of Center Stand. Just because it's a Bajaj and the previous iterations of Pulsars have center stand does not make it paramount that the NS should also have it. With the NS and the Duke 200 Bajaj is trying to create world level products and Bajaj is just following the trends. I'm pretty sure, if having saree guard was not a rule in India, Bajaj wouldn't have plonked that too.

2) I'm with you on the horn and the primary reason is that, because the NS uses a dry cell battery, therefore care has been taken not to load the battery unnecessarily. You won't like a situation when the battery dies on you at a very critical point. So, the question is why a dry cell battery? Well, all boils down to efforts to make the bulky bits compact and contribute to mass centralization. Every manufacturer has it's own way and this is Bajaj's.

3) The first day I took the bike out of showroom, the bike saw it's exhaust below water, off-roading in mud and cutting through traffic and all that without a single skid. I know the tyres are not top notch, but they are not that bad either that we start feeling so bad about them. Even the soft compunds on SBKs take time to brake in and without which they skid so violently that it would scare the hell out of the riders. It takes a good 300-400 kms to brake in the tyres properly. But yes, if anyone want's the go for a change, should always go for better tyres. FZ front and R15 V 2.0 are a perfect fit on the NS and works well. I, personally won't go in for a tyre change, as I'm not having any issues with it till date. Those rubber allowed me to do a knee touch down even when they were around 200 km old.

4) I park the bike in the most crappiest of office parking in entire Gurgaon and till date I didn't had any issues with either one side lock or parking the bike on side stand. As a matter of fact, my previous Pulsar 200 had both side locking and never used the right side locking. This is more of a personal taste. For security, well, this is India, no matter which side you lock the bike, if it's your bike's day, then it's the day. My previous Pulsar 200 got stolen from a gated, guarded parking in just 7 minutes, when it was properly locked (just the central lock that is on left side)

5) 11 - 13 litres of fuel tank capacity is the average that most of the motorcycles have. Above all, every bike has all the needed bells and whistels to alert the rider before hand to let the rider know that what the fuel level is. A true tourer, even when touring on a SBK always has provisions for re-fuelling. But then again, what you are saying might be right, but then again, do you really feel that this is such a big issue that it would need all this hue and cry?? The Xbhp team had a Duke in the Grand Indian Road Trip. Ever wondered how did they do that with the Duke having a 10 litres capacity

6) The NS just came in. Give it some time to settle. Parts would be available and availability would get proper in some time.

At last I would say, grow up a bit and show some respect to the seniors and mods

Cheers and Ride Safe

Yes, I did try to adjust the gear level to the lowest position, and it does start touching the lower push rod of gear. But that's how it is in 200NS.

Tappet noise, Oil Pressure sensor are known issues.

Please stop joking around! Did anybody held you to ransom to buy the 200NS. Apart from the fact that spares are not available, all other points are not valid. The bike is designed in way. All the things you very well knew before buying the bike, so why are you cribbing now?

And BTW just for your information, the Centre Stand, is not there in sport bike to allow more freedom while cornering. In P220, the centre stand scrapes the tarmac if you lean too much.

And regarding the spares, did you mailed to Bajaj Customer Care?


+1 Will try to get the pics of the AFR screw.

If things like center stand ,fuel tank capacity ,horn etc are more important to you than power,torque,handling ,then I am afraid you have made the wrong choice ..

Peace,

Agree with Sajal. Guys lets not fight. We are here to help each other by knowing the issues and Great things in a particular bike. If we dont like somebody's comment, which we think is not right lets ask them or try to make them understand. Again as 'Sajal' said give some time to P200NS.

Peace

+1 for this

he should have gone for bike other than 200NS

Folks, stop piling up on the newB. He gave his view of the bike (and some of them are very relevant!) and the high handed reply from Samarth (and yeah I am not a big fan of him so call me a fanboy) wasnt fair especially coming from a moderator.
I havent seen such a reply in the x years of xBhp from any of the other moderators

1. Many bikes do not have this as an OEM feature. Making it a mandate adds the costs for everyone whether or not they need it. Wouldnt it help if the ones needing it, buy it seperately.

2. Same as above. Need another one, buy another one!
Infact Honking is considered as a ill practise in many countries. This also helps in reducing the load on the battery. A bigger issue IMO is the headlight being cut off when idle and there not being any way to over ride it! Imagine stopping somewhere in night to pee and not having the headlight! Scary!

3. This exists in a lot of bikes! Even Avengers had it.

4. 6700KMs of riding the bike in terrains ranging from smooth tarmac to the sands of Leh to the stones of spiti. I am a believer of these tyres. They arent as well in transition may be, but they are mighty good once you run them in. Wait for the powertotherider.com review and you might see some pretty aggressive riding on the stock eurogrips in wet conditions!

5. Same as 4. I could ride from Amritsar to Leh to Mumbai and this was hardly a trouble.. Bigger tank, more idle weight, and more weight lower the mileage? want that?

helll yea we all should..!!! after all, aaj ke baad i can be wherever the gang is forming..

I don't think centre stand should have been incorporated by default.
However, if they have avoided the centre stand as it is a sports bike intended to corner well, then why don't they put correspondingly supporting better tyres? Anyone?

Also, the issue of not having a lock towards the Right Side is absurd. Why don't they put it in a 'sports' bike? I don't know.

My loot reached the showroom today. Went to have a look at it. had 12 km on odo. Checked for any defects, rust, and the working of the electricals. Everything looked ok. On the left side of the gear box, the black plug like thing (no idea what it is called) was glued on the sides. I could feel the gum when i touched it (the same which is used to stick glass I guess). Can someone tell me what it is and why is it glued. chasis was looking good, and the lower portion of the bike had some dirt on it. Forgot to check the oil and coolant level. And also did not ride it. looked for scratches on body panel, noted down the VIN, and strictly asked the showroom guy to never allow anyone to ride it. I'm planning to bring it this week, and another issue is that I am not a resident of Bhopal, and am here to pursue my studies. So what all will be the documents i will have to provide? (sorry for the ot)

when are you getting the bike??


@the-one-who-started-a-war-in-this-thread:

about your accident, I am very sorry.. hope you have recovered well..!!

I am still wondering cribbing about the 12 litres capacity.. How many touring bikes have capacity above 14 litres (bullet Thunderbird 350 has 13.5 litres).. duke has only 10 litres.. now what??.. I remember @MG dada doing a long term review.. he wouldn`t have done it without fuel.. and more the fuel.. more the weight of the bike.. less mileage.. lesser performing the engine.. then we will call it a design debacle.. and a BAJAJ bike.. I filled upto 8 litres.. I feel a bike a little heavier than it was.. so why add unnecessary weight??..

Get a center stand bro.. it ain`t that hard!

I agree with you on the horn.. but, would you prefer a double horn bike which runs battery down and fails to start the engine.. besides, no one likes noisy bikes.. I don`t!!

Tyres ain`t that bad.. I tried cornering with knee down.. I am running into first service.. and it is seriously good.. for city-ish and highway ride (good in omr, ecr and bypass road).. besides, soft compounds run out of grip faster than hard compound.. life of the tyre.. I meant.. with the same tyres.. the bike managed to 100 - 0 in 11.67 secs on wet surface better than R15 and P220F in dry conditions.. check August Overdrive if you don`t believe me!

Do you have any idea if the rain cover being sold by the dealer is of good quality? or should i buy it from an outside vendor? The dealer has quoted me Rs.500 for the rain cover and Rs.550 for the center stand.

Thanks Rahul and Satyen. I found it and have adjusted a little bit to my satisfaction. Start seems more smoother and acceleration on standstill sounds better...now the question of mileage will ...sought after later...

Regarding the tappet noise, the svc person told me it is tightened , but since I still can notice the sound...should I be worried? I tried looking into the posts to find any solution for sensor and tappet. For sensor the only action was replacement. Which haven't worked for me. For tappet can anything be done? I may be considered fuzzy, but a smooth running sound of the engine is always music to ears. Thanks in advance ...