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**Karthi.N** · 08-05-2013, 11:23 AM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

hi guys fell down again.... a small boy in a big old cycle came from inside a row of standing cars and stood in my way showing his both wheels, he cant even touch his legs on the ground...so as to save him and avoid collision applied both the brakes ...as there was a bit of sand on the road both tyres gave up and i fell down stopping the bike ...boys stood on the cycle as i fell down seeing him....boy got zero injuries..then when i got up he vanished ....as i was wearing an helmet and jacket scraping is reduced...

so now in need of some help from u ppl.....
but i am in a small budget as i have to get everything from my dad

1.recommend me a good pair of gloves ...
2.knee caps
3.despirately want to fit the straight fit handle bars as on an fz...it costs only rs80..whereas our silver piece alone costs rs320..so i need to change it now...and i really like those handle bars...the problem is how to fit them on to the base..we have to collect a various list of parts from other vehicles ..so anyone has any ideas ...feel free to throw it to me...
4. ffe??? asked i quite time ago but no replies..one is filled on my friends ns..the low end torque is well increased and the is zero lugging ..excellent for city rides...but that metal quality is not upto the mark ..so suggest me a good ffe...

**princesirohi** · 08-05-2013, 12:31 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by Hari Rajan View Post

brake pad cost?

...

Rupees 186 /=

see the condition of brake pads in just 2600 kms

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**surampudijagadeesh** · 08-05-2013, 01:25 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

Rupees 186 /=

see the condition of brake pads in just 2600 kms

Get the brake lines checked and if the brake pedal is getting stuck. Mine are stock in the rear and 17000km old, still as good as new.

are you resting your foot on the pedal?

and also get the caliper assembly checked. it is prone to getting stuck sometimes as they are floating calipers. I had a problem initially, when the rear brake was applied there came a tak sound from the brake pads and they used to get stuck in the position and reverted to normal after a while, but it was rectified soon enough by the asc.

**Hari Rajan** · 08-05-2013, 01:31 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

Rupees 186 /=

see the condition of brake pads in just 2600 kms

thats cheaper than i thought.

btw i am facing a new issue.

the left side spark plug is having a good amount of oil deposit and there is oil in the plug chamber too. why is this happening?

**princesirohi** · 08-05-2013, 02:00 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by surampudijagadeesh View Post

Get the brake lines checked and if the brake pedal is getting stuck. Mine are stock in the rear and 17000km old, still as good as new.

are you resting your foot on the pedal?

and also get the caliper assembly checked. it is prone to getting stuck sometimes as they are floating calipers. I had a problem initially, when the rear brake was applied there came a tak sound from the brake pads and they used to get stuck in the position and reverted to normal after a while, but it was rectified soon enough by the asc.

that was regarding front brake pads... not rear.

rear is doing fine, and i don't put my feet on rear brake pedal all the time.

Originally posted by Hari Rajan View Post

thats cheaper than i thought.

btw i am facing a new issue.

the left side spark plug is having a good amount of oil deposit and there is oil in the plug chamber too. why is this happening?

talking of new issues, somebody earlier says his bike emits strong burning smell.

today morning while coming to aamby valley from pune when i stopped at lonavala for regular sutta break, i noticed very very strong burning smell from my parked bike then i noticed closely there was even smoke/fumes... from the left side of bike near the area where exhaust pipe meets the exhaust can i.e. underside of gearbox. i analyzed for quite some time then thought may be some oil from chain found its way to silencer and is burning... i don't know.

**surampudijagadeesh** · 08-05-2013, 02:46 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

that was regarding front brake pads... not rear.

rear is doing fine, and i don't put my feet on rear brake pedal all the time.

talking of new issues, somebody earlier says his bike emits strong burning smell.

today morning while coming to aamby valley from pune when i stopped at lonavala for regular sutta break, i noticed very very strong burning smell from my parked bike then i noticed closely there was even smoke/fumes... from the left side of bike near the area where exhaust pipe meets the exhaust can i.e. underside of gearbox. i analyzed for quite some time then thought may be some oil from chain found its way to silencer and is burning... i don't know.

Yes it is the gunk from chain splattering all over the exhaust and near the engine number.

and coming to your brakes, my mistake i didnt notice they were of the front. anyway, my bike and some others also had issues with the front disc bending while running. i got that replaced under warranty. it can also be faulty calipers.

**bondarun** · 08-05-2013, 04:35 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Hello Guys...
Am ARUN from Chennai.. Owner of 200NS ( Bumblebee )
Crossed 1.4k odo till date.. bike is around 50days old...

Have Changed the Headlight to Philips Diamond vision and two slave plugs to NGK iridium, was not able to find the middle on...

Have Planned to Change the Engine oil to Motul 5100 after crossing 2k ride in period...

Am not facing any big issues or problem as few had...
some vibration and rear disc and front disc hisss noise...

The thing that i am not happy is the rear brakes...
they are good but the feedback is not as strong as it should be...
my friends New RTR180 rear disc bite is strong and u can feel the force felt.. but mine, the bike just moves on, until i use the front disc brake...
( had rear disc noise and plate heating issue after 1st service, the removed the unit and cleaned it up and replaced it, noise went but bite is lost )
Anyway to solve this issue?

Also can anyone give me the exact model no of NGK iridium plug? model no of master plug...

Also is there any branded high quality disc pads available here in chennai for rear? would like to go for it...
As bajaj spares are low in cost, they bring down the quality too in it.. so need a good one...

( can we use R15 rear disc pad in it? )

Also am upgrading my rear EURO GRIP to MRF one found on R15 v2... go skid 2times on normal breaking at a speed of 40km/hr...
Will there by any mileage drop in it?

**Red_Redemption** · 08-05-2013, 05:43 PM

Pulsar 200 NS acceleration issue

Warning long post ahead:

TL;DR - Acceleration and top speed issue, escalated matter with service manager, 7 months later - carb overhaul fixes the problem

I had been facing the dreaded lag at 7k rpm issue that plagues many of us NS owners. I was ok with it till Jan 2013, cause after the lag at 7k, the bike usually rocketed ahead till the red line. After a few long trips in Feb, March and April I started facing an issue where the bike stopped accelerating at 7k in 5th and 6th gear. The bike would max out at around 95kmph with a feeling that the fuel is running out.

I have written a bit about the ordeal I had to go through to get the issue fixed.

April 2013 (Odo reading 15,000km)
Mentioned the issue to service engineer and all I got was a AFR adjustment when I requested the carb be checked.
When I took the issue to the service manager, the bike was put on a dyno (not sure of the exact name of the machine) and was shown that the bike revs past 7k and the top speed of the bike as 125kmph. End of discussion.

May 2013 (Odo reading 16,000km)
August 2013 (Odo reading 17,000km)
I am so frustrated with the bike, that I stop riding it entirely and use my dad`s activa instead.
As a last ditch effort, I approached the Service manager once again. This time he says Bajaj engineer will be visiting and I could show the bike to him.
After a week, I take an off from office and land up at the service center to meet the bajaj engineer. The engineer turned out to be the Manager overlooking the service centers in this region. On his insistence the service engineer agrees to overhaul the carb. I suggest the spark plugs and chain be replaced (they were due for replacement at 20,000).

**surampudijagadeesh** · 08-05-2013, 06:07 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS acceleration issue

Originally posted by Red_Redemption View Post

Warning long post ahead:

TL;DR - Acceleration and top speed issue, escalated matter with service manager, 7 months later - carb overhaul fixes the problem

I had been facing the dreaded lag at 7k rpm issue that plagues many of us NS owners. I was ok with it till Jan 2013, cause after the lag at 7k, the bike usually rocketed ahead till the red line. After a few long trips in Feb, March and April I started facing an issue where the bike stopped accelerating at 7k in 5th and 6th gear. The bike would max out at around 95kmph with a feeling that the fuel is running out.

I have written a bit about the ordeal I had to go through to get the issue fixed.

April 2013 (Odo reading 15,000km)
Mentioned the issue to service engineer and all I got was a AFR adjustment when I requested the carb be checked.
When I took the issue to the service manager, the bike was put on a dyno (not sure of the exact name of the machine) and was shown that the bike revs past 7k and the top speed of the bike as 125kmph. End of discussion.

May 2013 (Odo reading 16,000km)
I started facing jerky acceleration at low end and then finally total loss of power. (Felt I was driving a 100cc bike)
Service engineer changes the clutch plates and low end power is restored but the bike is still not accelerating smoothly and doesn’t rev past 7k.
Again only the AFR was adjusted when I requested the carb be checked.

August 2013 (Odo reading 17,000km)
I am so frustrated with the bike, that I stop riding it entirely and use my dad`s activa instead.
As a last ditch effort, I approached the Service manager once again. This time he says Bajaj engineer will be visiting and I could show the bike to him.
After a week, I take an off from office and land up at the service center to meet the bajaj engineer. The engineer turned out to be the Manager overlooking the service centers in this region. On his insistence the service engineer agrees to overhaul the carb. I suggest the spark plugs and chain be replaced (they were due for replacement at 20,000).

FINALLY the carb overhaul manages to solve the issue at 7k. As compared to earlier 124kmph, the bike shows 144kmph on the dyno. 90% of the low end jerky acceleration is fixed (as for the remaining 10%, I don’t think the bike has much power below 3k)

List of parts changed in this duration (labor + part cost)
Clutch: 280+1756
Spark plug: 0+381
Chain/sprocket: 280+1580
Front Brake pads: 84+186
Carb overhaul: 73+0
Fork overhaul: 393 +176
Total: 5189
Service centers in question – Sai Service (Balgandharva) and Pro biking (Kothrud)

The carb overhaul just cost 73 rupees!! Maybe that’s why they didn’t want to do it earlier. The effort to cost ratio is too less.
I will be testing the bike on the coming weekends and I sincerely hope the issue doesn’t return.

My thoughts after this whole process
- Why wouldn’t the service engineer look at the carb even when I insisted? He said apart from the AFR setting, we do not touch he carb.
- Why did it have to go till the level of a bajaj manager, who figured out the problem within 10min of discussion with me
- I am fed up with the “Saab ye normal hai” (sir this is normal) reply given by the service engineers

Ha ha, it seems like every other problem with NSs here has happened with mine or the other way around. Had the same issue few weeks earlier after i took out my bike from a rest of 4months. you can read my previous posts for that.

and for why the mechanic couldn't find the problem was because he did not want to. talking about laziness, mechanic here suggested replacing the whole carburetor to avoid the hassle of overhauling/cleaning. beat that

and to top all that they complain about being paid very little salaries. in my opinion, the good general service they give sometimes is nullified by their laziness in resolving a clearly apparent problem and for that they should be given good paycut.

**sunilyo** · 08-05-2013, 06:18 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS acceleration issue

Originally posted by bondarun View Post

Have Changed the Headlight to Philips Diamond vision and two slave plugs to NGK iridium, was not able to find the middle on...
How is the light throw of the Diamon Vision and how much did it cost you?

Do you find any difference after installing the NGK Iridium plugs?

some vibration and rear disc and front disc hisss noise...
The hissing noise is normal and is caused due to dust / debri on the pads. a Good pressure wash should make the sound go. For better results remove the pads and clean it using sand paper.

The thing that i am not happy is the rear brakes...
they are good but the feedback is not as strong as it should be...
my friends New RTR180 rear disc bite is strong and u can feel the force felt.. but mine, the bike just moves on, until i use the front disc brake...
( had rear disc noise and plate heating issue after 1st service, the removed the unit and cleaned it up and replaced it, noise went but bite is lost )
Anyway to solve this issue?

Even i face the issue of low feedback on the rear brakes, but learn using the front brakes for all braking needs. Using the rear more often will only result in fish-tailing and skids.

For a better bite try installing the steel-braided lines of KTM (if they are compatible) or any compatible steel - braided line.

Also can anyone give me the exact model no of NGK iridium plug? model no of master plug...
I dont think a model for the master plug is out. If yes then anyone please let us know

Also am upgrading my rear EURO GRIP to MRF one found on R15 v2... go skid 2times on normal breaking at a speed of 40km/hr...
Will there by any mileage drop in it?

when you skided did you use the rear brake or the front ? Rear brake usage always results in skids especially if there is sand / gravel on the road. The MRF tyres i have read are more grippier than the eurogrips. The grippier the tyre there will always be a loss in mileage and pickup though not noticeable.

My replies in bold above

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Originally posted by Red_Redemption View Post

Warning long post ahead:

TL;DR - Acceleration and top speed issue, escalated matter with service manager, 7 months later - carb overhaul fixes the problem

I had been facing the dreaded lag at 7k rpm issue that plagues many of us NS owners. I was ok with it till Jan 2013, cause after the lag at 7k, the bike usually rocketed ahead till the red line. After a few long trips in Feb, March and April I started facing an issue where the bike stopped accelerating at 7k in 5th and 6th gear. The bike would max out at around 95kmph with a feeling that the fuel is running out.

I have written a bit about the ordeal I had to go through to get the issue fixed.

April 2013 (Odo reading 15,000km)
Mentioned the issue to service engineer and all I got was a AFR adjustment when I requested the carb be checked.
When I took the issue to the service manager, the bike was put on a dyno (not sure of the exact name of the machine) and was shown that the bike revs past 7k and the top speed of the bike as 125kmph. End of discussion.

May 2013 (Odo reading 16,000km)
I started facing jerky acceleration at low end and then finally total loss of power. (Felt I was driving a 100cc bike)
Service engineer changes the clutch plates and low end power is restored but the bike is still not accelerating smoothly and doesn’t rev past 7k.
Again only the AFR was adjusted when I requested the carb be checked.

August 2013 (Odo reading 17,000km)
I am so frustrated with the bike, that I stop riding it entirely and use my dad`s activa instead.
As a last ditch effort, I approached the Service manager once again. This time he says Bajaj engineer will be visiting and I could show the bike to him.
After a week, I take an off from office and land up at the service center to meet the bajaj engineer. The engineer turned out to be the Manager overlooking the service centers in this region. On his insistence the service engineer agrees to overhaul the carb. I suggest the spark plugs and chain be replaced (they were due for replacement at 20,000).

FINALLY the carb overhaul manages to solve the issue at 7k. As compared to earlier 124kmph, the bike shows 144kmph on the dyno. 90% of the low end jerky acceleration is fixed (as for the remaining 10%, I don’t think the bike has much power below 3k)

List of parts changed in this duration (labor + part cost)
Clutch: 280+1756
Spark plug: 0+381
Chain/sprocket: 280+1580
Front Brake pads: 84+186
Carb overhaul: 73+0
Fork overhaul: 393 +176
Total: 5189
Service centers in question – Sai Service (Balgandharva) and Pro biking (Kothrud)

The carb overhaul just cost 73 rupees!! Maybe that’s why they didn’t want to do it earlier. The effort to cost ratio is too less.
I will be testing the bike on the coming weekends and I sincerely hope the issue doesn’t return.

My thoughts after this whole process
- Why wouldn’t the service engineer look at the carb even when I insisted? He said apart from the AFR setting, we do not touch he carb.
- Why did it have to go till the level of a bajaj manager, who figured out the problem within 10min of discussion with me
- I am fed up with the “Saab ye normal hai” (sir this is normal) reply given by the service engineers

The clutch plates for NS costs Rs.1756? thats expensive.

Which make is NS's carb ?

**Aditya N Bharadwaj** · 08-05-2013, 06:39 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS acceleration issue

Originally posted by bondarun View Post

Have Changed the Headlight to Philips Diamond vision and two slave plugs to NGK iridium, was not able to find the middle on...

My sincere advice, chuck the NGK iridiums. NGK hasn't officially released a model for NS. I used the ones specified for 220 (Which I believe even you have) and the plugs lasted just 4k kms. When I opened them up a few days back, the RH plug had black deposits on the electrodes (coz I used to run rich) and white powdery substances at the base of the plug, which means the plug was getting vaporized. The word 'Japan' written on that part of the plug was gone, like the tread on a tire wears out after a burnout. I shifted back to the stock champion RG6HCC.
You might feel you have better throttle response and F.E (yes the FE increases) but 550 bucks for one plug isn't worth it, especially since the gains are low and risk is high.

Originally posted by Red_Redemption View Post

Warning long post ahead:

TL;DR - Acceleration and top speed issue, escalated matter with service manager, 7 months later - carb overhaul fixes the problem

I had been facing the dreaded lag at 7k rpm issue that plagues many of us NS owners. I was ok with it till Jan 2013, cause after the lag at 7k, the bike usually rocketed ahead till the red line. After a few long trips in Feb, March and April I started facing an issue where the bike stopped accelerating at 7k in 5th and 6th gear. The bike would max out at around 95kmph with a feeling that the fuel is running out.

I have written a bit about the ordeal I had to go through to get the issue fixed.

April 2013 (Odo reading 15,000km)
Mentioned the issue to service engineer and all I got was a AFR adjustment when I requested the carb be checked.
When I took the issue to the service manager, the bike was put on a dyno (not sure of the exact name of the machine) and was shown that the bike revs past 7k and the top speed of the bike as 125kmph. End of discussion.

May 2013 (Odo reading 16,000km)
I started facing jerky acceleration at low end and then finally total loss of power. (Felt I was driving a 100cc bike)
Service engineer changes the clutch plates and low end power is restored but the bike is still not accelerating smoothly and doesn’t rev past 7k.
Again only the AFR was adjusted when I requested the carb be checked.

August 2013 (Odo reading 17,000km)
I am so frustrated with the bike, that I stop riding it entirely and use my dad`s activa instead.
As a last ditch effort, I approached the Service manager once again. This time he says Bajaj engineer will be visiting and I could show the bike to him.
After a week, I take an off from office and land up at the service center to meet the bajaj engineer. The engineer turned out to be the Manager overlooking the service centers in this region. On his insistence the service engineer agrees to overhaul the carb. I suggest the spark plugs and chain be replaced (they were due for replacement at 20,000).

FINALLY the carb overhaul manages to solve the issue at 7k. As compared to earlier 124kmph, the bike shows 144kmph on the dyno. 90% of the low end jerky acceleration is fixed (as for the remaining 10%, I don’t think the bike has much power below 3k)

List of parts changed in this duration (labor + part cost)
Clutch: 280+1756
Spark plug: 0+381
Chain/sprocket: 280+1580
Front Brake pads: 84+186
Carb overhaul: 73+0
Fork overhaul: 393 +176
Total: 5189
Service centers in question – Sai Service (Balgandharva) and Pro biking (Kothrud)

The carb overhaul just cost 73 rupees!! Maybe that’s why they didn’t want to do it earlier. The effort to cost ratio is too less.
I will be testing the bike on the coming weekends and I sincerely hope the issue doesn’t return.

My thoughts after this whole process
- Why wouldn’t the service engineer look at the carb even when I insisted? He said apart from the AFR setting, we do not touch he carb.
- Why did it have to go till the level of a bajaj manager, who figured out the problem within 10min of discussion with me
- I am fed up with the “Saab ye normal hai” (sir this is normal) reply given by the service engineers

I had this 7k rpm issue. Got my intake, engine and exhaust decarbonised and the issue is gone. Glad you got it solved within 100 bucks.
Well the mechs usually play safe. They follow a thumb rule: Open the carburetor, be ready to face issues. They keep the task of fiddling with the carb as a last resort, along with the fact that it costs less to do so.

**bondarun** · 08-05-2013, 07:01 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS acceleration issue

How is the light throw of the Diamon Vision and how much did it cost you?

They are Fine and better compared to standard bulbs we get...
depends upon the light condition it performance...

If there are many cars and less bike means, its hard to make out tat is your bike Headlight working or not...

Pass light blast is quite good at all condition.... even can seen in day time ( if not tat sunny )

Cost me 650rs for one and labor 70rs.

Do you find any difference after installing the NGK Iridium plugs?

There is slight feel in it, i mean very slight...
but its worth going for reliable NGK plugs...

I heard in some blog that, the Duke and NS carries the same master plug...
dono if its true or not...

Replacing master plugs, need to remove the seats, the shield in the middle...
Mech felt so hard to remove the master plug...

**Tiru Yadav** · 08-05-2013, 08:25 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

hello every one i purchased my p 200 ns September 2012
till date i have topped my ODo 8,000 K/m
and i have met with accidents, the second accident happend twenty days back which resulted 1 month bed rest
the main reason for my accidents are skiding of my tires and i fall to right side skidding ...
i dont know why this happens
i changed the lhs handle bar and lhs crash guard which completely damaged and are unuseable ...
can any one suggest me why this happens to me (always falling to right side when my tyres locked)

**bondarun** · 08-05-2013, 08:27 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS acceleration issue

In this 50days...
i was reading my bike behaviour closely and found few issues and solved them by myself...

Engine overheat

Even driving around 20km, the bike felt so hot, even u can feel them over your Jeans pants..
from the 1st it was there, thought tat it was normal. as its a naked 200CC bike and cos of Bajaj oil...

Recently i changed my slave plugs to NGK and the dark color change in the plug threads.. did some research on plugs and found that my bike is running on Richer side.
so i made myself free and asked my Mech to do a 3turns on the carb settings.. ( read it somewhere in our thread for it )
but my Mech advised me to do a 3.5 or 4 turns instead of 3...

Bike ran fine, but sometime i can feel tat the bike has no fuel and going to stop etc...

So i asked him again to do it on its own this time.
Bike is smooth and vib free now... Also my Engine temp is low compared to before.
Before Radiator fan use to go up and start running, even the climate condition is chill...

Think so a good Carb setting solves the Engine heat issue to a extend..

RPM Fluctuation during halt:

I know Many are having this issue..
This is mainly cos of the idle screw which is connect by a spring...

The simple fix is that, turn the idle screw slowly till the RPM reaches 4k,
and turn the screw down slowly ( real slowly like .1 per 2sec ) till it reach 1.3~1.5k...
Now no more RPM fluctuation during Halt at Signal or during any stop...

This worked for me...

Fuel Sensor:

Our Tank fuel sensor is located at the right side of the Tank.
The sensor is connected inside with a help of a plastic rod...
This usually gets disturbed when the Fuel knob is inserted from the right all way inside..
It disturbs the Fuel Sensor and show incorrect read...
My Mech said, all older gen pulsar had this issue, but its fixed on 220F...

Only way to fix it, is by asking the Bunk guy not to insert the knob all way inside...

**Red_Redemption** · 08-05-2013, 09:23 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS acceleration issue

Originally posted by sunilyo View Post

My replies in bold above
The clutch plates for NS costs Rs.1756? thats expensive.

Friction plates 985
Gasket clutch cover 110
Pressure plates 228
Oil change 444

Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post

I had this 7k rpm issue. Got my intake, engine and exhaust decarbonised and the issue is gone. Glad you got it solved within 100 bucks.
Well the mechs usually play safe. They follow a thumb rule: Open the carburetor, be ready to face issues. They keep the task of fiddling with the carb as a last resort, along with the fact that it costs less to do so.

100 bucks?? i spent 5000+ on this issue. It is another matter that the parts were up for replacement in another 2000km :P

Originally posted by Tiru Yadav View Post

hello every one i purchased my p 200 ns September 2012
till date i have topped my ODo 8,000 K/m
and i have met with accidents, the second accident happend twenty days back which resulted 1 month bed rest
the main reason for my accidents are skiding of my tires and i fall to right side skidding ...
i dont know why this happens
i changed the lhs handle bar and lhs crash guard which completely damaged and are unuseable ...
can any one suggest me why this happens to me (always falling to right side when my tyres locked)

Falling to the right may be due to the way the body reacts to the skid. Try pointing the front tyre in the direction of the skid - this might help you recover from it. There is no unequal weight distribution (from left to right) on the NS that would cause such an issue.

Before you see why you are falling to the right, you might want to see why you are skidding in the first place.
- Are you driving too fast?
- Are your tyres worn out?
- In the surface loose or wet? (Sand/Gravel/Slush)
- Are you using too much rear brake? (The most important factor in my opinion)

The next piece of advice might be controversial, but take the bike to an empty ground or parking lot and try emergency braking. Having a skid and fall here will be much less dangerous than on the road. And try to wear as much safety gear as possible.

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