Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Revamped 390 Duke spied | MCN

Prospective buyers might need to wait. If it's anywhere as good an update as 2016 D690, I'd highly recommend you to wait out for another year.

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

10% of volume means just that; 10% of the amount of fuel you put in. For every liter of fuel use 100ml of the cleaner.

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

So for 11ltrs.. You mean 1ltr+ [emoji33] [emoji33] [emoji33]
I doubt... how sure are you on the dosage ?

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Yup that's what it says. It's actually confusing as on one hand it claims the whole bottle treats 20 gallons i.e 75 liters on the other hand it say pour the entire contents in full tank of fuel (which may or may not be 20 gallons) and yet it says 10% of volume of fuel.

My advice would not be to use the 10% formula. Divide the total contents of the bottle by 75 liters and use the said figure that you get.

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That is what I did with the help of Jude...

Added 45ml+ . But added after filling up fuel to the brim... is it supposed to dissolve easily or what ?

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Yup, will mix up easily.

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[QUOTE=Veeral;1215986]Quick help. Can someone pls explain me the direction to use. Its says OR add 10% by volume... what does it mean
yes its a bit confusing, i bought the same stuff and wrote to abro but never received a reply.
i decided to go with the 75 gallon calculation rather than the 10%

it dissolves easily with fuel.. i have tested a small quantity in an empty plastic bottle. I've used it twice at 4000km intervals.. i haven't seen any improvement as such and neither have i noticed any negative effects. maybe its because my bike is maintained well and it also runs on a dash of system g/adon p every other tank full, the adon/system g definitely seem to make a marginal improvement in refinement and fe.
reading the spark plugs during the service, they were pretty spot on and so has my fe. am just going to dump that bottle at say just before every service till its finished.
my next look will be a peak in to the combustion chamber using a borescope camera ! I want to see and compare with other ktm's that run normal pump gas without additives..i wouldn't want to judge the real effect of these additives (which also claim to reduce the carbon deposits) without proper proof.

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

[QUOTE=s1d;1216084]Excellent would love to see the results with proof.

Btw does it matter how many kms I've crossed before using system g ? I've crossd 8k kms. Did pour approx 45-50ml of injector cleaner using measuring spoon. But I filled the fuel before and then added the cleaner.

Where do u live sid ? I tried looking for systemG but couldn't find it online anywhere. And I believe the dose for that is 1ml/ltr.

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[QUOTE=Veeral;1216093][QUOTE=s1d;1216084]Coming to practical terms, here are my thoughts on these so called "non-visible" cleaners. Yes there is a reason why I've termed them as "non-visible". I've personally used different types of cleaners for different parts, which "visibly" show the results for the purpose intended and some come in the form of snake oil, and injector cleaners and oil additives are one such

I don't really suggest using these every other day, keep it a practice of using them once/twice -- preferably once every three months. Now, I am not gonna confuse myself and others with gallon to liter to ml calculation. Keeping it simple, when your tank is about to Low Fuel Level, empty the ABRO container fully, then fuel up, tank full, and ride as you would until the next Low Fuel display shows up, and you're done (at least theoretically we're done).

Injector cleaners are not the final solution for a clean throttle body, bad/adulterated fuel, eventually gum up the fuel system no matter what "cleaning systems" are used. I personally consider them snake oil with little to no value at all, used in my car and observed no improvements in either performance or "BOOST" at all.

YMMV

Cheers!
VJ

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Don't expect miracles. I've been using them since last 2-2.5 months. Strictly OK product. Nothing much to write about. I wouldn't say that about my other mods though which are quite useful. Redlines are the only mods I'm not excited about.!

Also, yes the heat is increasing now at 1900 kms. Initially, I can vouch till about 1700 kms, it was NIL. Anything can be done about it??

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They might not be a miracle, but they are definitely way better than stock. The stock seat used to pain after an hour of ride. But with Redline, I don't feel uncomfortable even after 2 hrs. There is definitely an improvement for sure. But it is not advisable for short riders (below 5'6".) as it increases the seat height by 1".

Regarding heating, have you added/topped up the coolant level recently? If you have and if the coolant mixture concentration is diluted, it may be the cause for it. By increased heating, do you mean the temperature bar reaches to the max level or do you feel more heat form the engine.

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I told you 390 heats up, btw what's the air flow of your radiator fan, when I had 390 and radiator fan was changed, new fan had air flow towards ground level not on my legs.

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I haven't had the chance to test in rains yet. But the manufacturer claims its limited water resistant, i.e. ok to use in rain when you are seating and riding but avoid parking in open in heavy rain.

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I've been using system g since 1000km on the odo and have now completed 19000 km in less than an year and a half. As i mentioned before these additives mix with the fuel, but its always better to first add the additive and then fuel up.. but doing it the other way around is not going to cause any problems.. just that it would take a while to mix thoroughly . I think it would be better if you did a highway run (say around 100km) after adding the injector cleaner, i believe a burst of higher rpms/speed (6000rpm/80 kmph with some variations) would aid in the 'cleaning' if any.. Italian tune up
As for system g, yes the recommended dosage is 1ml per litre.. so stick to that (again, a wee bit more is not going to harm anything). System g was off the shelves for most part of 2015 at least here in hyderabad where i live. I was lucky to have purchased a bottle just before it vanished, and also a friend and fellow forum member @theironhorse99 ordered it online and lent me a bottle. It has since been back on the shelves here in Hyderabad since a month. I have also used Adon P when my system g ran out and it was also good.. in fact it felt more comfy shifting at a bit higher rpms. Both these products have similar claims and dosages. The best way to measure small quantities would be to use a syringe.. the system g and adon come with graduated bottles and easier to dispense.
System g is usually sold at Bharath petroleum bunks and adon p at Indian oil.. you can also order system g online at Safety - Comfort - Styling - Cleaning - Power & Mileage | Car Innovative Accessories | Roger Car Accessories - Roger Motors

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Mine is on the legs, between the knee and ankle and it is very very hot air!