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  • The update on my girl's carb is,it's a goner!! The mech's were saying the missing is because of the carb running rich!! I have shouted myself hoarse,explaining to them that on checking the plug after revving it in higher revs on high speed runs the plug is light colored!!Yet to satisfy them the needle setting was made lean and now it's made the bike surge and lag along with the old missing !!All these playing around with her carb has made my girl very temperamental these days.
    Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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    • hey guyz i have a prob with my bike.... the bike is having a bad downshifting problem since the past few days. whenever i need to downshift say from 4th to 2nd due to sudden braking, its downshifts to 3rd, but when i apply force with my heel(i use heel to downshift) to downshift to 2nd, the lever gets locked i.e. it does not go to 2nd. so i have to use half clutch and pull here in 3rd itself (but in reality it should pull in the 2nd gear).

      And also while downshifting gradually (and not due to sudden braking as mentioned above), it DOES downshift, but at maximum times it downshifts with a noise like "KHAT" for every downshifts. this noise is heard especially if i downshift from 3rd to 2nd...

      I mentioned this problem with my mechanic, he said i would have to change the clutch cable since the clutch wouldnt dis-engage properly though the settings of the clutch is perfect.. since the part was not in stock(gave the order), he lubricated the cable with oil w/o actually removing it... to a certain extent the downshifts were fine (2 or 3 days) but again the same problem..

      So do u think its the fault of the clutch cable or some internal parts may need replacement? Thanks...


      PS: the downshifts are perfectly fine when engine is cold, and the problem starts when it becomes hot..

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      • Originally posted by tintin708 View Post
        hey guyz i have a prob with my bike.... the bike is having a bad downshifting problem since the past few days. whenever i need to downshift say from 4th to 2nd due to sudden braking, its downshifts to 3rd, but when i apply force with my heel(i use heel to downshift) to downshift to 2nd, the lever gets locked i.e. it does not go to 2nd. so i have to use half clutch and pull here in 3rd itself (but in reality it should pull in the 2nd gear).

        And also while downshifting gradually (and not due to sudden braking as mentioned above), it DOES downshift, but at maximum times it downshifts with a noise like "KHAT" for every downshifts. this noise is heard especially if i downshift from 3rd to 2nd...

        I mentioned this problem with my mechanic, he said i would have to change the clutch cable since the clutch wouldnt dis-engage properly though the settings of the clutch is perfect.. since the part was not in stock(gave the order), he lubricated the cable with oil w/o actually removing it... to a certain extent the downshifts were fine (2 or 3 days) but again the same problem..

        So do u think its the fault of the clutch cable or some internal parts may need replacement? Thanks...


        PS: the downshifts are perfectly fine when engine is cold, and the problem starts when it becomes hot..
        Is the engine oil old? and get the chain slack adjusted.If either of the things solve it,then there's no need to worry.
        Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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        • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
          Is the engine oil old? and get the chain slack adjusted.If either of the things solve it,then there's no need to worry.
          ya the oil is new (hardly 500kms ridden) and the slackness of the chain is ok, oiling is there... but i forgot to mention that the cable is more than 6yrs old and that also its local. the original ones had snapped!!

          and also while riding in slow traffic with constant engagement and diengagement of the clutch, i hear khat khat sounds from the rear sprocket....

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          • Originally posted by tintin708 View Post
            ya the oil is new (hardly 500kms ridden) and the slackness of the chain is ok, oiling is there... but i forgot to mention that the cable is more than 6yrs old and that also its local. the original ones had snapped!!

            and also while riding in slow traffic with constant engagement and diengagement of the clutch, i hear khat khat sounds from the rear sprocket....
            Sounds like a chain sprocket issue,how old are they? Clutch Cable has little affect on such things ,as long as the adjustment is right.
            Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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            • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
              Sounds like a chain sprocket issue,how old are they? Clutch Cable has little affect on such things ,as long as the adjustment is right.
              how could the chain sprocket be the culprit here?? that khat khat noise is a different problem altogether... i am finding the downshifts to be hard and sometimes it gets locked at a particular gear... well the chain sprockets have crossed 30k i guess..

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              • Originally posted by tintin708 View Post
                how could the chain sprocket be the culprit here?? that khat khat noise is a different problem altogether... i am finding the downshifts to be hard and sometimes it gets locked at a particular gear... well the chain sprockets have crossed 30k i guess..
                Don't take my word for it,ask the mech to loosen the chain and ride like that for some time.Then you'll know ,how important chain sprocket is to the transmission(gearbox).
                Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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                • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
                  Don't take my word for it,ask the mech to loosen the chain and ride like that for some time.Then you'll know ,how important chain sprocket is to the transmission(gearbox).
                  but last week itself i got the chain slackness adjusted... it had become too tight... so i got it loosened...this downshifting problem has been bugging me for months.... its not a new problem.... can a clutch cable wear out?? the mech said the settings r perfect.....

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                  • Originally posted by tintin708 View Post
                    but last week itself i got the chain slackness adjusted... it had become too tight... so i got it loosened...this downshifting problem has been bugging me for months.... its not a new problem.... can a clutch cable wear out?? the mech said the settings r perfect.....
                    From what you say you may have to check the following:
                    1.Clutch plates and it's present condition,
                    2.Gear shift drum bearings,and it's horizontal positioning & play,
                    3. Wear out of the gear change dogs..the Y shaped levers which selects the individual gear position depending on the drum selection.
                    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                    • Originally posted by psr View Post
                      From what you say you may have to check the following:
                      1.Clutch plates and it's present condition,
                      2.Gear shift drum bearings,and it's horizontal positioning & play,
                      3. Wear out of the gear change dogs..the Y shaped levers which selects the individual gear position depending on the drum selection.
                      one more thing i forgot to mention is that when i engage the 1st gear, the idling of the bike seems to come down. my idling is 1300rpm, and when i engage 1st gear it comes down to 1270rpm... so does it mean that even after pulling the clutch with 1st gear engaged, the engine and the gearbox are not completely disengaging itself and hence the downshifting problem?

                      PS- when the engine is cold, the bike tends to surge forward immediately after putting the 1st gear.

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                      • Originally posted by tintin708 View Post
                        one more thing i forgot to mention is that when i engage the 1st gear, the idling of the bike seems to come down. my idling is 1300rpm, and when i engage 1st gear it comes down to 1270rpm... so does it mean that even after pulling the clutch with 1st gear engaged, the engine and the gearbox are not completely disengaging itself and hence the downshifting problem?

                        PS- when the engine is cold, the bike tends to surge forward immediately after putting the 1st gear.
                        You definitely have either wrong oil or clutch adj., problem,from what you have just said. The morning jump on engaging a gear shows that the friction and metal plates have not separated .Check for worn,clutch plates,and wrong setting..best to change with new oil and then check for problem
                        Last edited by psr; 05-07-2011, 12:09 AM.
                        When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                        • Originally posted by psr View Post
                          You definitely have either wrong oil or clutch adj., problem,from what you have just said. The morning jump on engaging a gear shows that the friction and metal plates have not separated .Check for worn,clutch plates,and wrong setting..best to change with new oil and then check for problem
                          last week itself i changed the oil.... done less than 5ookms with it... the jumping problem had started immediately after putting in new oil... regarding the clutch plates, well it has done some 25000kms, but it seems to be fine, there is no clutch slippage while accelerating... i think i will change the cable and get the settings properly adjusted.. when the depress the clutch, i have to depress it by almost 80% for upshifting or downshifting a gear which i think is not the correct setting....it should be 50% or 60% at the most....

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                          • Originally posted by tintin708 View Post
                            last week itself i changed the oil.... done less than 5ookms with it... the jumping problem had started immediately after putting in new oil... regarding the clutch plates, well it has done some 25000kms, but it seems to be fine, there is no clutch slippage while accelerating... i think i will change the cable and get the settings properly adjusted.. when the depress the clutch, i have to depress it by almost 80% for upshifting or downshifting a gear which i think is not the correct setting....it should be 50% or 60% at the most....
                            When you release the clutch lever and try to engage again there should be only 10mm play at the lever..adjust this after turning the handle bar to the extreme left and right, to ensure the play exists at the extremes also.
                            More play will mean clutch cannot disengage completely ,when you press the clutch lever fully.
                            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                            • i got the clutch cable changed.... now its very very smooth to operate!! the problem has gone as of now...the earlier one was very hard compared to this new one...

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                              • Originally posted by tintin708 View Post
                                i got the clutch cable changed.... now its very very smooth to operate!! the problem has gone as of now...the earlier one was very hard compared to this new one...
                                Good.... ride safe...keep lubing the cables every 6 months and before and after monsoon.
                                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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