Ahhh... ok... so the fibre issues happen to almost all modern Indian bikes!!! i think i should stop complaining about fibre issues of my bike and just think of it as a 8 year "OLD" bike!!

But just imagine how much would a fibre part would cost in case of the CBR250 or equivalent bikes, if the HH ZMA-R fibre parts cost so much!!! something to think about eh??

Definitely not much as Hero Honda charges.
Honda spares are cheaper than HH . But initially till they localize all spares it might be a bit expensive like the first launch of R15's and the current R15 spares.

I was my own mech today.
Tried fixing the strange problem of my bike.

I did drain the fuel tank, it leaked our pure and clean petrol.

I drained some carb fuel too, initially it gave out dirty fuel and later followed clean fuel.
There was NO water in the tank as well as in the carb, but the carb did have some dirt in it.
I tried to start the bike, it started and wasn't idling well before it was set to 2000 rpm.

Now i kept the engine running and still leaked more fuel from the carb, i did drain roughly 200 ml of more fuel, i could see some very very slight granules until some first 50 ml or so, later followed pure and clean fuel.

now i again turned it off, started again, and it was okay.
I went for a ride, it was all great.
I came back, set the idling back to 800~1000 and now it was idling perfectly.

Tried a few runs in the complex itself, was AMAZING.
It was all wet around.
I love riding in the wet, and this is the first time i am riding the MODDED bike in rains, it really is very much fun.

It stated raining, and i thought lets enjoy for some time, i rode for like 5 ~ 10 mins in heavy rains, was brilliant.

Now 1 thing is certain, there's NO WATER entering the tank at all.

I did come back, tried a bit ON/OFF again and again, and all seemed perfect.

Akk this was done in the afternoon.

A few mins back from now, i tried to ride my bike again, and it didn't start just like before.
i assumed some water might have entered as i was riding in the rain, and it wouldn't have settled down before but would have now, so i drained some fuel from the tank, again it was pure petrol.
I didn't have my screwdriver with me, so couldn't drain any carb's fuel.

Now i tried to start it, it was again tending to turn off.
I set the idling again to about 2000 and tried, it does start sometimes but needs choke opened.

I rode it for a while, and there were many many start-stop, start-stop sessions in the range of 500 mts.

now can this be a carb issue ?
How come the carb give out soo much of dirt which was put back just 3000 kms back (or maybe less)
My previous carb which was almost NEVER serviced didn't gave out even 10% of the dirt compared to this one even after 60k kms.

After the bike heated up a bit, it did run almost perfect, but all this was possible again if the idling was set to 2000 rpm.

Is this a carb issue (i assume it really is)
What should i do now, open the carb and get it cleaned ?
should i do this after every 2500 kms ?
Is it because of the pulsar carb ?
I don't want to open it up again and again, was it a mistake ditching a fiero carb ???

First of all you had got dust in the petrol tank, and it had flowed into the carb...what ever happened to the filter in the fuel tap ?......I think your fuel tap filter is absent or punctured...get it corrected ASAP...
If the AFR is lean, Float height wrongly set for lower level, AIR filter damaged and allowing excess air,Valve is not sealing properly due to wear or carbon, or piston rings freeze.....all of these in single or in combinations can give you your problem

My bike's mileage has gone down to 30's it looks like-I have been riding it the way I ride my R15. Top end is also very strained though its a pleasure to ride in the mid range.
But anyway, the bike is due for a carb cleaning&tuning session. I have discussed this earlier with gixxer_junkie_m&he says its best to get it tuned with a CO machine. I'm on the lookout for a SVC which has this.

I had the same issue&it was corrected a couple of years back. Zero vibes from fibre parts now. Put some black double side tape between the tail panel&tail lamp-that will stop vibration from that part. As for the tank scoops, there is a rubber holder behind-check if that is damaged.

It is a VFM bike, but may not thrill like the R15 IMO. Which is why it gets me thinking. I guess I will wait for some more time since I have no budget at present anyway.

Right!

Shifted out dude!

I have taken an oath that my Fiero shall remain stock as long as she lives.

True that!

Well, there could be a probability that when the mech opened the tank to get the float thing changed, maybe he would have misplaced, or forgot putting up the filter back, but its highly unlikely.

Secondly, one thing is for sure that the fuel wasn't the culprit, as i fit from the same petrol pump from ages.

If your talking about the float height, the one that's put up in the tank then YES, its wrongly set, even if it shows 70% fuel, the tank is almost empty.

The Valve seats were grinded, when i was getting the head work done, even that was taken care of.
Secondly i even replaced the rubber bushes (or what they call it) on the valves.

I am running the stock filter (- 1 foam) from quite a long time, but yes, the hook which connects the carb to the rubber outlet of the stock air filter is missing, but the carb is definitely a snug fit.
Can that be an issue ?

What should i do now ??

I's not a carb issue ,because the 29mm ucal carb of the p180/RTR180 is probably the best carb in india today.Carbs can develop air leaks or can have manufacturing issues,but it's unlikely to be the case,because till recent your bike had no fueling issues.

Put a close up pic of the spark plug,which you are famous for. That should at least clear up our suspicion that the prob is with the compression loss.

Get the carb opened up,get the jets cleaned and the diaphragm checked.They will be fine,if you'd ask me,at least it would remove the ghost of "carb issue" from your mind and you can then concentrate on the real issue which i am sure is elsewhere.

Yeah riding in rains is one of the most enjoyable things in life,especially in the hills and woods/plantation areas.If there's a pretty pillion hugging you,what more can a guy ask for? Watching can be fun too,take the silverstone MotoGp for ex.

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Its definitely not a compression leak because when it does run, it runs wild, still better than the RTR 160 that i ride quite often,
It seems that the bike is running rich, specially when its idling, it feels its getting flooded, and this didn't start happening now, but from the time I've put up the last pic, which you guys said was PERFECT tune state.
I'll put up a close up pic of the plug, I'll try my best with manual focus like last time

The carb is BRAND NEW, there could be nothing wrong with it, it took me a lot of time to even unscrew the carb drain screw, was too damm tight.

But if that's not the case, then how come it run great when i drained impure petrol out of it ?

@ psr

Air is not getting sucked from that area.
I'll get the foam and put it up, lets try this too.

@ all

I did try to start the bike again today, it started in just 1 press of a button, i rode for some time, i used to get slight turning off signals when i used to leave the throttle off.
But if pulled, it kinda regains life.
I've set the idling back to 800~1000 rpm, and it does idle right, but if i am not very very smooth on throttling, it turns off, again giving a flooding signal.

But even then it does seem to ride perfect once on the roll.

@All: Can anyone check how much the Star City front mudgard costs? I noticed today that it is of the same shape as F2's&also had the rear part in plastic, like the more modern bikes. If it fits, I would like to go for it.

Will do that. I will be going there to buy a intake manifold tomorrow and while i'm there i'll get the pricing of it.
One question i wanted to ask you Did you really drop the bike or tailgated someone while watching girls on the commute?

You made my day.....nobody escapes the sting of Gixxer

It usually is the case isn't it? A chewed up mud guard means tailgating a vehicle,then again knowing Sarvajit and from personal experience also.There are some beauties of scenery/nature,which a guy, simply can't avoid admiring What saves us from ,also becoming a part of the scenery is pure luck/reflex/blessings.

Yeah you can say it again.....after being in Bangy now and then for the past 35 years, I know the interesting scenario ....and you guys being youngsters, it is only appropriate,to appreciate the scenery.

Guys in Bangalore put your collars up......
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