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  • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
    @gixxer_junkie_m: R15's rim got bent when me&my friend went into a pothole at night.
    We were really slow, that surprised me since I have gone into bigger potholes at higher speeds.
    The culprit turned out to be low air pressure, which made the rims get a direct impact.
    Luckily the bend is minor&I think I don't need to buy a new rim (almost Rs. 3.5K). I could ride the bike back home after filling air.
    Looking for a good heat press repair shop to get it done over the weekend.

    P.S. All the best with the oil cooler installation!
    Yeah man,get it set right at a heat press shop.Otherwise even a cold hydraulic press is better than banging it with a hammer.
    Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View Post
    Oil Cooler , what is happening Gixxer ?
    Yeah bro bought one on sunday and getting it done at Satish's garage.
    Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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    • Originally posted by psr View Post
      You have to do aluminum welding of inlet and outlet hose fixing mouths , on the crankcase for this....but you need oil pump to give pressure for circulation,otherwise oil will not get pumped into the cooler which will be at a higher than crankcase position.
      No need to tamper with the crank or anything That's why i took up this modification.I asked ZEN and fiero has the oil cooler provision designed into it by suzuki.That's why the engine and design is being praised so much by others.It's a seriously well engineered design.
      Now,if you look at the fiero/RTR's crank case/clutch cover area,you will notice that the oil lines are external.That is the pump is pumping the oil up to the head and the gear box too.The gear box gets a second line with cooled oil as well.So that, it was designed keeping in mind a oil-cooler addition in the future.
      So all it needs is connecting the oil cooler hoses in place of the existing pipes.
      Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

      @gixxer_junkie_m: Jk bro, I think you really love your Fiero...if you manage to make this work out, we will post a new thread&everyone will come running to you to make similar setups in FZs, RTRs etc.
      No ,thanks, bro

      Originally posted by psr View Post
      The cooler and connecting pipes may burst due to extra pressure .(he pumps iron you know)
      I think mounting the cooler at a lower level equal to the crankcase level will be more functional,as this will allow gravity flow ,not requiring pressure flow.
      Hahhha yeah,coming to the oil pressure,it is important and from what mech is saying we will know once we connect it and check it.His reckoning is that pumping pressure is enough and the oil cooler will be mounted just like on p200.
      Today is a holiday for the mech and he has some personal prob,so yesterday nothing much got done.Hopefully tomorrow he will get the metal pipe of the third hose which showers oil to the cogs.Then new hoses will be made to suit the fiero and then we will have to check the oil pressure.If pressure is found lacking,we will not install the oil cooler.
      Last edited by gixxer_junkie_m; 09-21-2011, 06:59 PM.
      Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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      • @All

        I got this idea from RockrzHe had done a oil cooler mod to his hunk and i asked ZEN about it after reading his post.So it's not my original idea.
        Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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        • @All

          Correction big time!!! Mr Murthy was busy the last few days so i had asked a mech there about this oil cooler provision!! Just a few minutes ago i contacted Mr Murthy and guess what? There's a bolt in the crank case and all it needs a connection to the hoses of the oil cooler!!! That's it!!! so the existing oil lines stay the same!!That's why they had been saying it was built into the engine/gb design!!! Thank god nothing was done till now!!
          Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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          • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
            @All

            Correction big time!!! Mr Murthy was busy the last few days so i had asked a mech there about this oil cooler provision!! Just a few minutes ago i contacted Mr Murthy and guess what? There's a bolt in the crank case and all it needs a connection to the hoses of the oil cooler!!! That's it!!! so the existing oil lines stay the same!!That's why they had been saying it was built into the engine/gb design!!! Thank god nothing was done till now!!
            Yeah Thank god the present oil lines were not modified...After seeing the earlier post I was about to make a request to you not to insert the cooler in the outer oil lines,since it is for supplying oil to critical areas,....and loosing pressure ,and circulation time will lead to definite engine problem..
            Take one step at a time and take the time needed,and get it done perfectly....as you usually do.
            Best of Good Luck
            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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            • A good idea gixxer, even i was wondering that if the existing lines are tampered, it will be difficult to actually get a constant flow (in or out) of the radiator thingy, and still keep up with lubricating the other parts, still not leaking oil (as my bike does).

              Besides, i really don't think that this might help noticeably.

              @ PSR.

              Any more details about the mechanism of oil cooler actually working ?
              The one used by bajaj guys that is...
              Giving a lot to a fiero.
              Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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              • @gixxer_junkie_m, psr: Mileage found as 40kmpl.
                Why has it gone down so much? It used to give 43-45kmpl consistently earlier.
                Can we attribute this to worn out clutch plates&camchain?
                Idling is perfect.
                Shall I take a pic of the sparkplug for your reference?
                Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                  @gixxer_junkie_m, psr: Mileage found as 40kmpl.
                  Why has it gone down so much? It used to give 43-45kmpl consistently earlier.
                  Can we attribute this to worn out clutch plates&camchain?
                  Idling is perfect.
                  Shall I take a pic of the sparkplug for your reference?
                  Worn clutch plates is one possibility...also remember over a period of time dust accumulates on the Air Filter making it restrictive and makes the AFR richer.
                  A pic of Spark Plug will definitely help.
                  When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                  • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                    @ PSR.

                    Any more details about the mechanism of oil cooler actually working ?
                    The one used by bajaj guys that is...
                    Like Gixxer said ,if there is provision for attaching the oil cooler in fiero then it will greatly help....The oil pump inside will be able to generate the pressure to circulate the oil through the cooler
                    Two things that must be observed,......one is that the oil Quantity to fill up the oil cooler, and two the time taken for filling it again when doing a start from rest of say 1 or 2 hours...I guess a non return valve is necessary to ensure that the oil in cooler does not bleed back into sump....
                    More indepth study is essential before embarking on this,to ensure that ,neither the circulation pressure, nor the quantum of oil in circulation through different galleys,suffer due to the mod.
                    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                    • Originally posted by psr View Post
                      Worn clutch plates is one possibility...also remember over a period of time dust accumulates on the Air Filter making it restrictive and makes the AFR richer.
                      A pic of Spark Plug will definitely help.
                      Ok, I was myself thinking of getting the air filter changed-it has been pretty long.
                      As for clutch plates, they were changed for the 1st time at 35K kms., next at 44K kms.&now the bike is at 57K kms. I have not seen the mech. changing it all of these times.
                      Any idea why the original plates lasted this long&the subsequent ones are not lasting more than 10-12K kms.?
                      There is no metal clutch plate available for Fiero F2 unlike Suzuki Fiero.
                      I will also post a pic of the plug over the weekend. Please PM me your email id.
                      Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                      • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                        Ok, I was myself thinking of getting the air filter changed-it has been pretty long.
                        As for clutch plates, they were changed for the 1st time at 35K kms., next at 44K kms.&now the bike is at 57K kms. I have not seen the mech. changing it all of these times.
                        Any idea why the original plates lasted this long&the subsequent ones are not lasting more than 10-12K kms.?
                        There is no metal clutch plate available for Fiero F2 unlike Suzuki Fiero.
                        I will also post a pic of the plug over the weekend. Please PM me your email id.
                        Fiero belongs to the old school when OE parts were superior to replacement,unlike now.Try to get the Metal clutch plates which will last longer due to it's ability to withstand heat and it will not bend under pressure on load.
                        When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                        • Originally posted by psr View Post
                          Like Gixxer said ,if there is provision for attaching the oil cooler in fiero then it will greatly help....The oil pump inside will be able to generate the pressure to circulate the oil through the cooler
                          Two things that must be observed,......one is that the oil Quantity to fill up the oil cooler, and two the time taken for filling it again when doing a start from rest of say 1 or 2 hours...I guess a non return valve is necessary to ensure that the oil in cooler does not bleed back into sump....
                          More indepth study is essential before embarking on this,to ensure that ,neither the circulation pressure, nor the quantum of oil in circulation through different galleys,suffer due to the mod.
                          Yes, all these things have to be kept in mind.Firstly, the quantity the oil-cooler holds and secondly how many kicks does it take to fill the oil cooler up.Then i think we have to check after idling it that the oil level is OK and do changes if needed.
                          A P200 manual info about the oil-cooler capacity would be helpful.
                          Last edited by gixxer_junkie_m; 09-22-2011, 05:35 PM.
                          Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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                          • Originally posted by psr View Post
                            Yeah Thank god the present oil lines were not modified...After seeing the earlier post I was about to make a request to you not to insert the cooler in the outer oil lines,since it is for supplying oil to critical areas,....and loosing pressure ,and circulation time will lead to definite engine problem..
                            Take one step at a time and take the time needed,and get it done perfectly....as you usually do.
                            Best of Good Luck
                            Yeah i am going to the ZEN mech this time,Rajesh that is.Let's see.
                            Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                            A good idea gixxer, even i was wondering that if the existing lines are tampered, it will be difficult to actually get a constant flow (in or out) of the radiator thingy, and still keep up with lubricating the other parts, still not leaking oil (as my bike does).

                            Besides, i really don't think that this might help noticeably.

                            @ PSR.

                            Any more details about the mechanism of oil cooler actually working ?
                            The one used by bajaj guys that is...
                            Yeah buddy,it'd have been a bit of a mess if i had gotten it done.Let's see,for the moment i have no idea where that provision is and it will be clear once i meet Mr Murthy.
                            Benefits of a oil cooler?It won't be felt like other changes made.But i believe that it's addition will help the engine longevity and on high revs.
                            Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                            @gixxer_junkie_m, psr: Mileage found as 40kmpl.
                            Why has it gone down so much? It used to give 43-45kmpl consistently earlier.
                            Can we attribute this to worn out clutch plates&camchain?
                            Idling is perfect.
                            Shall I take a pic of the sparkplug for your reference?
                            There are quite a few things which are not in order,take one thing at a time otherwise you won't know which is causing which.
                            Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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                            • here is an explanation of how decompression in bikes work...

                              How an auto decompression cam works - YouTube
                              When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                              • Wow, that was a new thing to learn.
                                However i doubt that the centrifugal force was enough to keep it exactly opened.
                                I sure know it does, but still it difficult to convince myself.

                                Besides PSR sir, I've send you an e-mail, have a look.
                                Giving a lot to a fiero.
                                Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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