Pardon me...couldnt help but interject on this.

First things first....I've been a long time silent fan and follower of this thread and all the awesome things you guys have done to keep the old warhorse fighting fit and war-ready. Theres a 1 lakh+ run 1st gen fiero in our family....still pulls strong without any engine internals being touched. Clutch, suspension and brakes have become pathetic though. Its also got a yezdi rim and enticer tires at the rear thats messed the handling up quite a bit. Am hoping to intorduce it step by step to some of the mods described in these pages to breathe some life into it. + I learnt to ride on a fiero.

About th GS....Ive owned one for a while now (Having a fiero and a max 100r in the family influenced this decision to an extent). Im 6ft and 70 kilos. Handles fine for me. It might be too soft for heavier people though. Mine tracks straight, brakes straight, leans like its on rails and takes decent mid-lean bumps in its stride too. Its no r15 though, but a fine handling bike in its own right. Might also take some getting used to because of it being somewhat tall.

Yes, the suspension is soft enough feel a bit unsettling while riding fast but not unstable. Messing with rear preload and tire pressure seemed to deteriorate cornering feedback under various error filled trials, but a harder preload and a looser steering improves city riding nimbleness somewhat.

Had dropped the bike at 60 a while ago and post repairs, handling woes started for me. Its fixed to an extent now, though it oversteers a bit. So, it might be a similar case with your friend's bike as well. Could also be bad maintainance and\or a softer preload setting.

@ 2strokerama

I am really sorry to hurt your feelings by harsh words about GS.
I am one of the lightest riders of the planet being lighter than dani pedrosa.

The bike is very flick-able, but lacks feel and confidence, because of the height and as i already mentioned suspensions.
Just as an example, the softer front makes the bike dive in much much deeper under heavy breaking.
And this lets the rear very loose and this causes lot of wobble.

If you imagine an RTR with a very stiff front, and a GS, both do wobble under very hard breaking, but the rtr is firm and controllable, which is definitely not the case with the GS.
That's what i tried to mention.
I completely do understand that this is one of the smoothest commuter bike out there, and the engine is a gem..
This bike isn't the one that is made to be used for track-days...

But this feedback makes it very difficult to use the power and the pull of the engine, you know you can push it hard enough until 8~9k at each gear, and i can bet this bike can show dust to many many bikes out there in acceleration, but the breaking is where it looses the most.

I had many many incidents in just 2 days of loosing the front even in normal breaking conditions.
The front lets go all of a sudden without any previous warning, and if we break slowly and smoothly, it wobbles...

This is what i wanted to convey...
Maybe my friend's bike particularly has these issues, after being used to the rear-sets and the low handlebar with rock hard suspensions on the fiero, maybe i find this a bit too soft...
It would be alright otherwise...

No feelings hurt....its just a bike. No need to apologise like you accidentally insulted my religion or something. Mea culpa...I should have worded my thoughts better than to project a fanboy air.

What I meant to say was.....I'd thought i'd ridden the bike in every possible way that I was simply surprised that someone encountered something on this bike that I hadnt experienced.

I thought I ride flat out, but apparently, you ride harder and demand more from the bike. I've never had any wobbles...maybe it has to do with your low weight. But I get what you mean by the rear getting loose under hard braking(not under normal braking though)...initially had a few wheel lock incidents due to it. Have grown used to it and adapted my riding to it.

I dont have any track riding experience, so my riding may be undorthodox.....I tend to compensate the front dive by shifting my body backwards along with some rear brake fiddling to balance suspension loading....but never felt it out of control anytime, felt more involving actually.

Maybe the relaxed\flexible seating position of the bike is both a good thing and a bad thing depending on what youre used to.

True that its not meant for the track. Always wanted to take part in a rally\raid or hillclimb to see how it fares in such competitive scenarios.

Its a rare thing on the GS thread or anywhere else to get articulate discussions on its handling. So, its nice to hear your views on it.

Anyway, let me not veer this thread OT any further.

Sure,but get it checked as soon as he returns.About the helmet,yes it looks good.I have a steelbird Bieffe SB10 http://www.steelbirdhelmet.com/blefee-sb-10if.html.It's a darn good one too.
Good to hear that she's in good spirits.But my advise would be to go for the stock wheel and tyre set-up to begin with.
I am a big fanboy of suzuki engine design and the engineering which goes into it.Take the bikes introduced with TVS for instance.The fiero has such a level of over-engineering that it's still up and running in 200 cc plus guises even today.As you might know,since you've said you've been following this thread,the fiero came with a oil-cooler provision designed into it!When at that time none of it's competitors even had anything close to it in terms of technology.It was the first bike to come with digital ignition and the CV carb.So i am sure your GS150R is built and designed on the same lines.I wouldn't be surprised if this engine is taken further to have DOHC,oil cooler etc in the near future.

The cam didn't fit, the bearings were too big...
If anyone wants it, I'll be happy to send...
I went with the fiero cam...

The bike is back at home, and the same old painful running-in needs to be done.

The clutch plates need to be changed right away, planning to follow vignesh's method after running in when i change the engine oil.

Dear Xbhpians,


Recently i have purchased old classic suzuki fiero.collecting spares for restoration.all most done

can any one point me what all diffrences between suzuki fiero and TVS fiero except meter assembly and center lock?

i enquired TVS SVC for spares thinking that TVS fiero spares can be interchangable with Suzuki fiero but the SVC guy told they are entirely diffrent and they dont have parts for suzuki fiero ?????.

also i like to upgrade the bike to self start during restoration. can any one point me direct fit wiring kit for fiero without slicing connectors also matching right side combitation switch for self start .

Thanks
vijay

I'm really sorry for that...It was actually my idea and i solely regret it.. just try if you could change the bearing of the cam alone.. Else i'll find an RTR head in my locality and send that to you...
Regarding the clutch, it is really not recommended for road use.. It will eat the clutch.. But if you intend, i'll tell you what has to be done...

Awesome stuff, V1gnesh. Its always good to see the Fiero in its element. Off-road conditions truly let the rider revel in its glory! I see that ur bike takes off pretty great. Y don't u get a Renthal handlebar? - slightly wider and lower - excellent for those turns in the dirt
Good going. Get good gear soon please bro! Cheerz.

Engine is the same... Wiring is the same for the classic tvs and suzuki... Exhaust is different.. CDI unit is different... Get the self start wiring kit of the classic fiero and right side switch gear of the self start fiero..

Thanks.. Renthal handle bar??

Handlebars

Check this out.

I am sorry to hear this buddy.What about the rocker arms?

Yeah, first thing i wanted to do was to set the handling of the bike right and work upwards from there.

Yup...been following this thread for a while.....your 200cc setup's details, nanotechnology's alternator mod, the threads about the turbocharged fiero and the vtwin fiero, the tid bits about SBKs, et al.

I had a look inside the gs150r's clutch case today. The layout, though looking ulta to the fiero, seemed to be similar to the fiero's, when compared with the pic you had posted. So, maybe its true that this ones also built to take an oil cooler and more. I cant tell for sure with my threadbare technical knowledge, which Im slowly building through watching threads like these among others.

Even the rockers are stock...
I seriously need to do something to the clutch, from the very first day that was the only area of concern for me.
It slips like crazy, the plates hardly last well for 1000~1500 kms, after that its all down.

I think i shouldn't expect too much from this bike after all.
I've done quite a lot already, can't expect it to be the best in every thing.

I wish someone hires me as a test rider for a factory, i might produce a really good motorcycle i think...

@vijaymeyou

For installing a self starter, you'll need the following...

Starter motor
Starter relay
one way bearing
magnet fly wheel
Step down gear
a minimum of 5 amp battery
RH switchgear would need a change too

Most importantly, you'll need to drill a hole of the inner LHS of your engine case, the provision is already provided...
For the motor, you'll have to go for fiero's only.

The one way clutch as well as the bearing are available in 2 types, one of the fiero (made in japan) and another of the rtr (made in germany), there's a double price difference between the two, and the rtr ones are better, even after being half the price.

This mod is actually slightly expensive, so go for it if money is not soo much of a concern.

Make sure you go for the fiero's starter relay, the rtr one only starts the bike in neutral...

RTR starter works when gears are engaged as well, assuming clutch is disengaged. Please correct me if wrong.