Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

So you are in run-in. I guess the svc messed up in your first service by overfilling engine oil and coolant. Had you been charged extra?. Do as other said. With center stand and considering the floor as almost flat, the reading mark is too much. Drain it if you know, or go to any small workshop and ask them to drain a little by giving some money.

Regarding Bajaj manual run-in, I know many will feel mad in following them. But I did follow it. It was very very difficult initially to keep up. But I just strictly followed and now the results are the proof of my words. Almost the same of KTM Duke 200 engine, KTM manual recommends not to ride beyond 6K rpm during run-in. So what this means is, Bajaj just makes the procedure stringent so that even if you exceed their speed limit by 10-20%, still you will be in safe zone.

Given Indian mentality, if Bajaj says don't ride beyond 40 kph, then only we will ride up to 50 kph . KTM is very reputed and popular brand. Buyers usually are aware of all motorbike related information prior the buying and hence gives riders a warning in RPM range directly, where as RPM related information and run-in procedures are not even aware to many pulsar owners (i know many Pulsar owners never bother to look at RPM meter). And hence Bajaj says in speed limit, which most of us are aware. But both the way you can follow.

So Bajaj just makes sure that even if you exceed their speed limit, for example say, 6th gear max is 54 kph, and if you are doing 60-65 kph that's still fine.

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[MENTION=21879]Tejas[/MENTION]-jha

The oil and coolant levels are above the standard limits. Agreed.

• If you can, drain the coolant a little, coz otherwise when the engine is hot and the coolant volume expands, it might overflow from the reservoir and cause spillage/leakage.
• Excess engine oil drainage will be difficult. Think and discuss before attempting this yourself.

Also, when you turn on the bike, the oil pump starts and sucks up all the excess engine oil to circulate throughout the engine/gearbox.
That is why you see an empty engine oil window with the bike engine on. As soon as you switch off, the pump shuts down and the oil collects at the bottom of the sump, where you can see it full through the little window

Also as [MENTION=72200]xplod566[/MENTION] said, such slow rpms at higher gears is lugging. Lugging the engine can be as harmful if not more than stressing/over-revving it.
But I would disagree on the point that an engine shouldn't be red-lined as it causes damage. Based on the mad KTM, it's in the inherent nature of the AS's engine to rev high up, as most of the power/torque lies way up the powerband.
The RPM light is there for a reason!

Engine technology has become really advanced these days and most engines are designed to be revved pretty hard. But yes, sustained red-lining, going crazy on the engine WILL cause damage to any engine, let alone a Bajaj make.
So my advice would be to complete the run-in diligently, understand your machine, its needs and have fun. Don't baby it too much. Just Ride

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Ya agreed but I think the KTM shuts at 95000 rpm.but ya current engine tech are really good. One can redline the engine but may be not now as bike is new

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Thanks a lot for the replies guys....

This is what Im gonna do,

- Get a oil change say at about 1000kms and this time put the exact recommended quantity (1.2 Lts) in her. And change the oil filter as well with it.

- At the same time drain the coolant so that it is between max n min. Or say just below the max point.

- Not stress the engine any more (which I was doing unknowingly just as recommended in the user manual).

- Ill shift gears at say about 3.5k rpm for the 1st, 2nd and the 3rd gears. Around 4K rpm for the 4th gear. And about 4.5 to 5k rpm for the 5th n the 6th gears. Limiting the max revs to say about 5.5k. (Is this conclusion OK guys?? I seriously dont wanna harm my engine..)

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Hi Guys


I have taken test ride of this bike two times, and both the times i discovered below issues:

1. Gearing is irritating, sometimes you are too high on power you have to shift down, other times, you have to shift up to get it going. I mean, in busy traffic you cannot put your legs away from gears if needed. (At red lights, stop-go traffic etc.)
2. Gear lever is stretched back and seating is normal, that makes your legs tied behind. switching gears takes good effort from foot.
3. Seating is really good and comfortable, same goes for handling, clip on handle bars, and suspension.
4. Indicator switching is like turning on jet engines, you really need to focus.
5. bike feels huge in traffic, not agile like p220.

Owners, Experts, can you guys please suggest on above issues. I need to make up my mind.

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My comments in-line. 200NS\AS gears are taller and need only 3 gears to hit 95 kph. The only other bike close by is Unicorn 160 which can even do 100 in third gear. So if your requirements are primarily in city and need frequent shifting, you might want to re-consider Unicorn 160. It performs better than Gixxer or any other 150cc machine currently, costs less, better mileage.

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That's right about it.

Spinning the engine to max is not a problem unless the bike is loaded on gears and done with running-in period. Do the same on neutral many times and the chances of engine ceasing is more. Rev limiter will prevent this from happening, but on neutral the engine will hit to max very fast enough and a slightest delay in the rev limit can immediately show up signs of some wearing and engine damage.

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my answers in bold man... have fun!

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Absolutely.this way the engine will never be harmed.

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The greatest part about Bajaj bikes is that the engine is an absolute gem of tech.3 spark plugs embedded in such a small head,Indian engineers are far far developed than outsiders.yes I have seen many people making fun of the 3 spark plug but very few were able to understand and once they understood it they really appreciated it.you still get a mileage of 33-34 even after ripping the engine to your hearts content.try it on a duke 200 and u will get a mileage of 28-29.
People complained about Carb on this bike saying it deserved an FI.yes it can be better with FI but then look at Duke.it has fi and still the NS with Carb makes it run for the money.Bajaj engineers told that with FI the improvement is very negligible and doesn't worth the price hike the bike will get.
The thing is I can guarantee you if you rev the bike entire 10 hours at 9K rom nothing is gonna happen to the bike.people complain about Bajaj being cheaper on quality but show me another bike at that price range having a better quality than this.the only bike which has a great built quality is R15 but its seriously not a practical bike and frankly speaking lacks a lot of power and torque.

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Yes, gearing is irritating, this is due to the low torque at low rpm. The situation does get a little better over distance but not a whole lot.

I have a GS150 which has enough torque in its segment to do what you wish for but then again it doesnot have that bhp for quick acceleration.

Somebody, suggested Unicorn 160, I haven't rode it so cannot say but looking at Unicorns track record, the 160 is likely a torquey bike.

As far as seating is concerned, seat is hard and you will notice it in long rides. Even if you don't notice it your pillion will, this I can guarantee. The pillion seat is very uncomfortable.

Suspension is good but I liked Duke's more.

The bike may not be agile but due to the extra weight at the front cutting through traffic feels more safe although you have to do a lot ok work. Due to this extra weight I can pass through traffic in this bike much better than I could ever do in a P220

In long rides you will have wrist and palm pains. I also had a aching back but I have back problems so can't complain about that.

If you want something with torque you can testride GS150. You can also get the Mahindra mojo , its stated torque is high at low rpm.

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Torque is very high on the bike.initially when the bike was new it struggled but now after 4500 kms damn it has huge torque.I often find it very speedy on 2nd or 3rd gear at 30 + speeds is I often switch to 4th gear and still I find torque to be high.and when I say high I mean really high.I remember fine tuning my carburetor because I had cold start problem.then when I went to service centre he told me he fine tuned the Carb.after that I can literally feel torque all over the rev range , its fat all over the rpm til d red line.I think the bike you test drive might not be fine tuned properly I get a mileage of 35 in Bangalore.
GS150 is also a good bike but its power comes no where to close to 200

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My AS200 has covered 3,800 km, with oil changes at 150, 550, 1,000, 2,000 and 3,400 km. Running-in has been done meticulously.

At the last oil change (3,400 km), I switched from Bajaj 10,000 tomato soup to Motul 3100 Gold 20w50, the plan being to move gradually from Motul 3100 > 5100 > 7100 as the kilometres pile on. At the same service, the coolant level was topped up by the incompetent SVC guys beyond the maximum marker (bike was on main stand).

Now, the bike seems to be accelerating slightly faster than earlier, and generally seems more responsive. However, refinement has hit an all-time low, with the engine sounding hoarse and vibration levels bordering on the severely annoying.

Note - the high beam was adjusted during the service, which involved a total of 23 screws (!!) and a lot more expletives. Since then, the fairing sounds worse than earlier, which could be partially affecting my judgement of refinement levels.
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The front brake was making a periodic grating sound. The brake assembly was taken apart, cleaned and put back during the service, which lowered the severity of the issue. But the disc is still touching the pad (clearly audible) at one point in its cycle. Could this be a potential warranty issue?

The AS200 is a wonderful value-for-money proposition, sure... but goodness - Bajaj really needs to sort out quality issues. My fuel petcock fell off a week into ownership. A week!

Here's the obligatory +/- section:

Pros:

- Excellent straight-line acceleration and top speed for the money. I've hit an indicated 131 km/h so far, and there's room for more.
- Nice stability at triple digits. Calm ride up to 110 km/h, windy beyond.
- Strong high beam.
- Strong brakes, good modulation.
- Riding position works well for me. I'm 5'9" and obese.
- 39 km/l on highway rides, maintaining 110-115 km/h most of the time, dropping to 90 and rising to 120 occasionally.
- Suspension hasn't bottomed out so far; main stand/exhaust rarely grounds itself.
- Looks are a subjective issue, but most people I meet like it.

Cons:

- Regular Bajaj quality niggles (I also run a ten-year P150, so I've been there, faced that, lost hair, aged hard)
- Unacceptable NVH levels for this price bracket.
- Rider seat gets painful beyond the first 4-5 hours. No pillion has volunteered beyond half an hour so far.
- The suspension is a bit too harsh for Calcutta's average roads.
- The indicator switch is a joke. I need Hrithik Roshan's sixth finger.
- 33 km/l in off-peak Calcutta EM Bypass traffic, including 70-80 km/h sustained runs.
- Underwhelming low beam is a disappointing compromise between beam strength and spread. I have a feeling the P220's projector is better.
- Atrocious turning radius; manoeuvrability in traffic sucks.
- TVS management should be jailed for manufacturing Eurogrip tyres. Bajaj management should be shot for procuring them.
- Engine note is a subjective issue, but it reminds me of a powerful sewing machine.

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Motul 3100 is not recommend for the bike.it doesn't suite well with the bike.I had used it and changed it in another 80 kms.horrible engine oil.too much NVH
Switch to 5100 right away.also looking at the way u managed the bike it seems like you babysitted it a lot.so many engine oil change is not required.also You don't need to open the fairing to adjust the high beam.a potent svc guy can do it without opening as I did mine yesterday.
You should have demanded for the MRF tyres.but I agree euroslips are terrible .
Lastly don't babysit it so much.its Bajaj and made for India.so have a bit of fun and rough use with it.I strongly disagree regarding quality issues.I have been using it and previously I had a p180.compared to that the quality is really really good.

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Apart from Duke getting FI, the mileage of Pulsar AS/NS 200 (not RS) is more because of perfect carb tuning and the gearing. KTM Duke 200 is very short geared, hence the mileage will suck like anything. And imagine what?, you soon will be pissed off with short geared bike on long distance rides, whereas the Pulsar 200 on the other side shines best and does not make you tired.

The quality is also good, but it has room for improvements. Take R15 as an example. But hey, R15 still costs more than AS200.

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Bro, the max torque of 18.2Nm is attained at 8000 rpm in 200NS\AS. Where as GS150 or Gixxer gets it's max torque of 13-14 Nm at 6000 rpm. Now take a look at this graph or check this link

https://pertamax7.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/kurva-dyno-test-kawasaki-bajaj-pulsar-200ns.jpg




This is a dyno test result of 200NS. It shows at 6000 RPM, the bike generates a maximum torque of 16Nm which is still higher than what Unicorn\gixxer\GS150 makes. So technically the Pulsar makes more torque at any point. 200NS, weighs around 145 which is only slightly higher than other bikes like gixxer. Hence the low end torque will be still higher (Power-weight ratio).

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The 200NS has 3 short and 3 tall gearings.but I think KTM has all short gears?am correct.