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**jbm_guy** · 10-04-2015, 10:24 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Saurabh Umadikar View Post

Don't compare the Smoothness of Bajaj with Suzuki and Yamaha.
Gixxer and Yamaha have way way better Engine refinements than Bajaj and the overall build quality too.

When you say yamaha, i hope you are pointing only r15. Fz is not well refined as you are comparing here.. Ride them back to back and then you might wanna withdraw your comment. [emoji6]
And oh they both are not rev friendly [emoji3]

Another fact is, gixxer or fz don't stay well beyond 90kph and AS200 will be still when you do beyond. This is called high speed refinement [emoji6] [emoji12]

**xplod566** · 10-04-2015, 11:51 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post

When you say yamaha, i hope you are pointing only r15. Fz is not well refined as you are comparing here.. Ride them back to back and then you might wanna withdraw your comment. [emoji6]
And oh they both are not rev friendly [emoji3]

Another fact is, gixxer or fz don't stay well beyond 90kph and AS200 will be still when you do beyond. This is called high speed refinement [emoji6] [emoji12]

Exactly.when there is so much power for a single pot little bit of vibes can be felt.but ya those are good vibes

**Saurabh Umadikar** · 10-05-2015, 07:24 AM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post

When you say yamaha, i hope you are pointing only r15. Fz is not well refined as you are comparing here.. Ride them back to back and then you might wanna withdraw your comment. [emoji6]
And oh they both are not rev friendly [emoji3]

Another fact is, gixxer or fz don't stay well beyond 90kph and AS200 will be still when you do beyond. This is called high speed refinement [emoji6] [emoji12]

Ya that may be due to the Top end of the NS200 which makes it feel Calm at high speed jaunts. Gixxer and the FZs for the segment need have their torque at the lower and Mid range due to which the Top end really sucks. Gixxer has a nice gutsy top end(for its segment) but for FZ the engine does feel stressed post 80-85kmph.
For city commutes and occasional ride on twistes Gixxer is the best.
For that hooliganism city rides and loooooong Highway ones NS200 is the pick.

**VaruaG** · 10-05-2015, 03:26 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by deebee View Post

Thanks, VaruaG! The maximum I've seen is 40 km/l (full tank method, so quite accurate). This was on a low-speed 250 km night run on empty roads, averaging 70-85 km/h (also included a 5 km stretch of broken roads @ 10-15 km/h). However, the front brake disc was periodically rubbing against the pads, so the bike must've lost some efficiency there.

In the city, I accelerate when I see a sensible gap, but Calcutta's pockmarked roads generally discourage hard riding. On lucky days and on specific roads, I get to redline the engine a few times. In town, I get a constant 33 km/l.

How accurate is the fuel guage? You mean that stack of bars that goes up and down according to the stock market? It's ridiculous. After a full tank, it shows full even after riding for 100+ km. Then it drops slowly and completely out of synch with actual fluid levels inside the tank. I don't trust it at all - it's about as linear as vegetable prices.

Lol!

I get pretty much the same figures. As you rightly pointed out, my Fuel gauge...err Falling stock price... rushes towards the empty line like there is no tomorrow!
One moment I see 3 bars and then after half hr of spirited riding, it drops down to 0! I guess all digital gauges are the same....
My concern is that even when I see 0 bars, i open the tank to see enough petrol to run the Titanic for a day!

Originally posted by deebee View Post

This might be a stupid question, but I'll ask it anyway - what can affect the idle speed after a quick burst of acceleration?

Recently, the idle speed has been jumping to around 2,200 rpm after a quick run, however brief. This has never happened before - no matter how hard I rode, idling used to stay constant at 1,400-1,500 rpm.

Can excessive coolant levels cause this? At the last service, the coolant was topped up to beyond the "Max" line. Also, I (stupidly) shifted to Motul 3100 20w50 at the service (I'll move to 5100 after this).

No. I don't think excess coolant has anything to do with this. The same happened to me as well. I adjusted the idle screw to 1.4, hot. Now it stays put at 1.6 max, even after a session of hard riding. I would suggest you to do the same.

**jbm_guy** · 10-05-2015, 03:37 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Saurabh Umadikar View Post

Ya that may be due to the Top end of the NS200 which makes it feel Calm at high speed jaunts. Gixxer and the FZs for the segment need have their torque at the lower and Mid range due to which the Top end really sucks. Gixxer has a nice gutsy top end(for its segment) but for FZ the engine does feel stressed post 80-85kmph.
For city commutes and occasional ride on twistes Gixxer is the best.
For that hooliganism city rides and loooooong Highway ones NS200 is the pick.

Mmm.. Yamaha FZ FI version, for some mileage or other unknown reasons, has been under powered and hence you can feel the lack of power beyond 80, where as Gixxer is good to go 90-100 a bit well. But any day for a 150cc motor, it's good to stay within the comfort zone of 70-90 kph. A 200cc engine can definitely do 110-120 kph and so on.

200NS on the other side, is a great looking street fight, agile, powerful, flexible, nimble, good stability, ~50:50 ratio perfectly balanced Bikini faired sexy naked bike.

But for some stupid sales and AS\RS promoting reasons, Bajaj has stopped it. Very unrealistic for a good bike that short lived for less than 3 years. I hope and wish at least the newer Pulsars will have a good life time.

**deebee** · 10-06-2015, 02:57 AM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by VaruaG View Post

No. I don't think excess coolant has anything to do with this. The same happened to me as well. I adjusted the idle screw to 1.4, hot. Now it stays put at 1.6 max, even after a session of hard riding. I would suggest you to do the same.

You're right. I adjusted the idle, and now it never exceeds 1.6k, even after a high-rpm ride. Dunno how it could've been adjusted incorrectly earlier

**xplod566** · 10-06-2015, 05:57 AM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by deebee View Post

You're right. I adjusted the idle, and now it never exceeds 1.6k, even after a high-rpm ride. Dunno how it could've been adjusted incorrectly earlier

Also see if the bike is but having any child start

**VaruaG** · 10-06-2015, 02:00 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by deebee View Post

You're right. I adjusted the idle, and now it never exceeds 1.6k, even after a high-rpm ride. Dunno how it could've been adjusted incorrectly earlier

Let's just assume that some things in life are best left unknown....

Maybe a bad tune by SVC, factory or poor QC/PDI while delivery. Reasons can be numerous, what matters is that you have solved it sir!

**jbm_guy** · 10-06-2015, 07:16 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

This carb tuning is like a trial and error. At least for many service mechanic. So to get the solution for this, you have to keep tuning again and again which is a tiresome process.

So if your bike is in good condition, when you give for the service, ask them not to touch the carb for god's sake. I hope [MENTION=72200]xplod566[/MENTION] has recently learnt a good lesson carb related with the svc guy.

However idling adjustment is not that sort of a problem, as it is even mentioned in user manual too.

**deebee** · 10-08-2015, 11:03 AM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Any suggestions about upgrading the tyres? Are there any specific MRF/Michelin models that you recommend? NS owners might be in a better position to comment on this, given that they've probably been through a few tyre replacement cycles already.

(Should I post this question elsewhere?)

There's some life left in the Eurogrips, and a cash crunch is preventing me from replacing the tyres right away. The TVS rubber is acceptable on dry, well-paved roads - but on wet roads/loose rubble/sand/mud, it's a heart-in-mouth experience. I've had a few Gilette-level shaves this monsoon.

**kany1991** · 10-08-2015, 11:28 AM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by deebee View Post

Any suggestions about upgrading the tyres? Are there any specific MRF/Michelin models that you recommend? NS owners might be in a better position to comment on this, given that they've probably been through a few tyre replacement cycles already.

(Should I post this question elsewhere?)

There's some life left in the Eurogrips, and a cash crunch is preventing me from replacing the tyres right away. The TVS rubber is acceptable on dry, well-paved roads - but on wet roads/loose rubble/sand/mud, it's a heart-in-mouth experience. I've had a few Gilette-level shaves this monsoon.

Go for Michelin pilot street [emoji106]

**deebee** · 10-08-2015, 12:50 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by kany1991 View Post

Go for Michelin pilot street [emoji106]

The Michelin India website doesn't list the front 100/80-17 as an option for the Pilot Street. (The rear 130/70-17 is listed under Pilot Street, though.)

The only option seems to be the Pilot Sporty for the front - is it any good? Michelin's description seems to ominously suggest a hard/durable/low grip compound, which I'm trying to avoid - "Heavy-duty tyres for urban and rugged road use on bikes up to 250cc. Pilot Sporty tyre offers an exceptional price/performance ratio."

I'm running a Sirac Street rear on my P150, and it's rubbish.

**kany1991** · 10-08-2015, 01:18 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by deebee View Post

The Michelin India website doesn't list the front 100/80-17 as an option for the Pilot Street. (The rear 130/70-17 is listed under Pilot Street, though.)

The only option seems to be the Pilot Sporty for the front - is it any good? Michelin's description seems to ominously suggest a hard/durable/low grip compound, which I'm trying to avoid - "Heavy-duty tyres for urban and rugged road use on bikes up to 250cc. Pilot Sporty tyre offers an exceptional price/performance ratio."

I'm running a Sirac Street rear on my P150, and it's rubbish.

For front sporty is good and for rare go for street because sporty for rare is sh*t as compare to street and for looks u cn try 140 section [emoji6]

**Saurabh Umadikar** · 10-08-2015, 02:54 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by deebee View Post

Any suggestions about upgrading the tyres? Are there any specific MRF/Michelin models that you recommend? NS owners might be in a better position to comment on this, given that they've probably been through a few tyre replacement cycles already.

(Should I post this question elsewhere?)

There's some life left in the Eurogrips, and a cash crunch is preventing me from replacing the tyres right away. The TVS rubber is acceptable on dry, well-paved roads - but on wet roads/loose rubble/sand/mud, it's a heart-in-mouth experience. I've had a few Gilette-level shaves this monsoon.

R15v2 rear tires I think MRF Revz S is good too.

**imehumvishal** · 10-08-2015, 04:16 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Ok Guys, After reading this whole thread. I found this bike has major build quality and cost cutting issues but it has a much much more powerful engine (though not refined enough)

Now, Lets figure out the real question:

Is this 'Bajaj' bike worth Rs. 1 Lakh ?

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