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**Rajeshbw** · 03-13-2012, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by getvmurali View Post

Hi All,

Things that let down this vehicle:

1. Suzuki's poor marketing.
2. Tall pillion seating.
3. Poor initial pick-up.
4. No tubeless tyre.
5. Could have given an option for rear disc.
6. Monoshocks. This one could have completed the package to the fullest.
7. After sale service. Network is very thin.
8. Sales force doesn't have enough knowledge to explain customers about all the good thing that this vehicle offers.
9. No DC configuration.
10. Very poor headlight.

When we compare the bikes below,

1. Honda Unicorn/Dazzler
2. Suzuki GS150R
3. Yamaha SZ-R
4. Pulsar 150/180/220
5. TVS Apache 160/180 ABS
6. HH Hunk/CBZ Extreme

What makes people go in for GS150R. Particularly in my case
a) I want the biggest bike
b) I want a reasonably good pickup
c) I want to ride at great speed, but with good mileage
d) The sixth Gear !!

a) Let us accept that our GS is a giant. Except for Bullet & Karizma, no bike can match GS150R in size. It is majestic to look at
b) I dont crib about the pickup which is reasonably good. When we have a large bike, we should not expect a 250cc performance. Weight is also an asset
c) Mileage is among the best among 150cc bikes, 125 cc bikes and some 100cc bikes

GS150R Rocks. No two ways about it.

**Samshalu** · 03-13-2012, 10:40 PM

Nice review & congrats on your great choice,GS150R is one of the best 150cc bike...I hope u have a great time with your beast...ride safely

**MSN1** · 03-13-2012, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by getvmurali View Post

3. Poor initial pick-up.

just google for XTP feature in GS150R and let us know what is it

**SparKot** · 03-13-2012, 11:11 PM

Originally posted by antonysg View Post

On the day of delivery, One guy gave me the keys and asked for Rs100 towards NSC charge, gave him rs.100, though i knew he was lying about NSC. Another guy took the bike out of showroom and asked for money just because i was taking new bike, and a third guy stuck the number on the number plate and expected money, gave another Rs.100 for both of them.

After reading the manual, I removed the seat on the second day, and found that after installing the tank cover, the service guys had left the tank bolts loose. They had not at all tightened the tank bolts; i was able to just pull the bolts out with my hand. And worse, i found that they had even forgot their spanner under the seat; i still have this spanner with me. Careless service guys. I have tightened the tank bolts myself.

Can you name the SVC please..........?

**getvmurali** · 03-14-2012, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by MSN1 View Post

just google for XTP feature in GS150R and let us know what is it

Yes i do understand the feature. But personally I feel the power gets delivered post 4500 RPM.

**MSN1** · 03-14-2012, 12:29 AM

Originally posted by getvmurali View Post

Yes i do understand the feature. But personally I feel the power gets delivered post 4500 RPM.

many ppl here driven 30 kmph on 6th gear where the RPM is below 4500

i did 30 kmph on 6th gear with pillion rider which means ?

**getvmurali** · 03-14-2012, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by MSN1 View Post

many ppl here driven 30 kmph on 6th gear where the RPM is below 4500

i did 30 kmph on 6th gear with pillion rider which means ?

Ok...so what are you trying to convey? I didn't quite get it

**gmagesh14** · 03-14-2012, 02:15 AM

@getvmurali & antonysg::

Congrats on your purchase and joining the GS family...

Wish your bike keeps a broad smile on your face..

For the new GS owners, dont consider now on mileage, hard gear shifting, and tricky neutral problems..

But keep an eye of it to evaluate the difference as the bike runs in.. Wait for the bike to runin properly and complete atleast two services..

Use all the gears even when you dont require and even when you hit the highway try to reduce and increase the speed within 5k rpm..Dont ride the bike at constant speed till the 1st service/750kms..

Wash and clean the bike regularly and apply waxing after every wash..

Have a safe riding.. Wear helmet..

**punarvasu** · 03-14-2012, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Gagan0123 View Post

Guys, my new GS150R is showing more than 500KM in odo, and the last mileage I got was 33kmpl, the mileage is getting worse with time, any suggestion what to do?

This mileage may not be correct even if you are riding continuously at very high RPM. The R to R or full tank to full tank FE checking methods is not at all reliable.

Everyone has his own arguments to support or oppose this method and let them argue but if you need to know the exact mileage of your bike, do this test.
If the result is poor, your bike needs to be checked thoroughly at the SC for fuel leak to clogging in jets.
You cannot expect the mileage will increase after first or second servicing as the servicing is mere oil and oil filter changing and tightening some nuts and bolts. The best mileage by bike ever got was 71 kml before the first service. The later test ride result was 70 kml.

**kripscorp** · 03-14-2012, 12:41 PM

Connected the Ape RR, some interesting facts.

Friends,

Connected the Ape RR in GS. I couldn't find any significant deflection in ammeter reading

. I think, this is probably because the battery is fully charged.

I have noted some readings with multimeter. You can have a look...

In stock RR setup:

Stator output = 9.5 volts @ 1500 rpm, 10 volts @ 2500 rpm, 11 volts above 3000 rpm. Not crossed 11.2 volt above 3000 rpm.
Charging volt across battery = 12.5 volt @ 1500 rpm and raised till 15.5 volts @ 4000 rpm.

In Ape RR setup

Stator output is same as above
Charging volt across battery = 13 volt @ 1500 rpm and raised till 16.5 volts @ 4000 rpm.

Here the red wire from ape RR didn't show any charge. I checked with volts as well as amps. This wire is dead.

So, to check the charging properties of ape rr, I switched on the headlight for 5 min with engine off to drain the battery. Then started the engine. Now ammeter showed good deflection towards the +ve side (headlight off). But within 15 to 20 sec this deflection slowly reduced to the center.
In figures, this will be approximately 5 to 6 amps of current and reduced to 1 amps.

Didn't take extra wire from stator. Instead connected with earth. (one of the gray wire from ape rr to earth)

one thing I found from wiring diagram is the blue wire that comes from the stator is also connected with earth. So checked the AC volts between blue wire and black wire, that also comes to 10 volts.

Friends, please suggest what to do next... your comments are always welcome.

Ya, I know

. Next is coil rewinding. And to go one step ahead, I planned to change the magneto to a powerful one. Don't know where I can get that...
So if you know any magneto center in mumbai, pls let me know...

**punarvasu** · 03-14-2012, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by kripscorp View Post

Connected the Ape RR in GS. I couldn't find any significant deflection in ammeter reading. I think, this is probably because the battery is fully charged.

I have noted some readings with multimeter. You can have a look...

In stock RR setup:

Stator output = 9.5 volts @ 1500 rpm, 10 volts @ 2500 rpm, 11 volts above 3000 rpm. Not crossed 11.2 volt above 3000 rpm.
Charging volt across battery = 12.5 volt @ 1500 rpm and raised till 15.5 volts @ 4000 rpm.

In Ape RR setup

Stator output is same as above
Charging volt across battery = 13 volt @ 1500 rpm and raised till 16.5 volts @ 4000 rpm.

Here the red wire from ape RR didn't show any charge. I checked with volts as well as amps. This wire is dead.

So, to check the charging properties of ape rr, I switched on the headlight for 5 min with engine off to drain the battery. Then started the engine. Now ammeter showed good deflection towards the +ve side (headlight off). But within 15 to 20 sec this deflection slowly reduced to the center.
In figures, this will be approximately 5 to 6 amps of current and reduced to 1 amps.

Didn't take extra wire from stator. Instead connected with earth. (one of the gray wire from ape rr to earth)

one thing I found from wiring diagram is the blue wire that comes from the stator is also connected with earth. So checked the AC volts between blue wire and black wire, that also comes to 10 volts.

Friends, please suggest what to do next... your comments are always welcome.

Ya, I know. Next is coil rewinding. And to go one step ahead, I planned to change the magneto to a powerful one. Don't know where I can get that...
So if you know any magneto center in mumbai, pls let me know.

The charging voltage from the stock setup is 13.5 to 15.3 volt at 5000 RPM.

This will surely work and will produce enough power to fit a 55/60 watts bulb in the headlight if all the parts such as RR, pickup coil etc are in usable condition now.

If you still cannot understand it, please contact some others who have already done it.

**kripscorp** · 03-14-2012, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by punarvasu View Post

The charging voltage from the stock setup is 13.5 to 15.3 volt at 5000 RPM.

This will surely work and will produce enough power to fit a 55/60 watts bulb in the headlight if all the parts such as RR, pickup coil etc are in usable condition now.

If you still cannot understand it, please contact some others who have already done it.

hi, here red wire what I mentioned is the extra 2 wires that comes from ape RR... I thought its ammeter wire. but didnt show any amps in it.

Regarding the earth connection: One point of stator is connected with black wire and another point is grounded. So I thought, we can use the grounded connection as another point without taking another wire from stator,... Is it wrong ?

**fadeawayraj** · 03-14-2012, 04:35 PM

Ownership experience and GS150 Manual Information

Hi Everyone,

Bought on: 11/11/11
Current status: Third service completed two days back(5800kms on Odo).

NOTE:
1) The review/opinion is solely wrt my understanding.
2) Accept my apologies incase of any mistakes (understanding/technical/grammatical/interpretation).
2) Specification data is from the manual (got it along with 2012 batch GS150R).
3) Everything might not help all of us who already have the 2012 batch GS, but might help GSPians with prior to 2012 batch to compare data and the people who are in dilemma of choosing a motorbike.
5) While choosing bikes, analyze your needs (trim practically and compromise as per availability & affordability) and check the bikes which fulfills most of your needs.

Uno) I wanted to buy a bike with below requirements:

1) Equal to/above 125 CC.
Reason: I need more cc (along with bhp), at times in a need for that extra pull & speed with smoothness and least vibrations.

2) Commuter bike.
Reason: for the comfort as usage is 30+30 to & from - office.

3) Mileage equal to/above 50.
Reason: decent Savings and affordability.

4) Front disc brake.
Reason: Savior incase of those situations demanding instant brake & driver's confidence booster when compared to drum brakes.

5) Fuel gauge.
Reason: I hate when i had not checked/miscalculated petrol on my previous bikes (rx-135 and KB100 RTZ) ending up towing my bike in search of petrol bunk.

6) Fuel tank capacity more than 10 ltrs.
Reason: I love to have least visits to petrol bunks and depend on one petrol bunk & brand (Shell).

7) Turn indicators.
Reason: Safeguard myself by informing others on my expected move and avoiding others ramming my bike from behind. I beleive that accidents donot just happen becoz of my mistakes ONLY rather there are many naive drivers with least common/riding/traffic sense who can be the cause.

8) Odo meter.
Reason: Helps me many times when i want to check the distance between some source and destination.

9) Speedo meter.
Reason: Sometimes to help me not to cross my/bike limit and to test the bike's limit/durability/performance during different changes on my bike.

10) Self start along with kick start.
Reason: Self starter is an easy option in traffic signals. I can never rely solely on battery; hence need a kick starter too. (Have seen FZs and guess some dazzlers too stranded due to battery failure and nothing to kick around).

11) Fuel tank cap key hole lid.
Reason: Just to prevent water seeping in due to rain or wash to some extent. (Had seen water in my previous bike (Bullet, RX135, CT100 and RTZ) tanks).

12) No Forward lean position riding style
Reason: Don't want to take too much of pressure onto my back and arms/wrist.

Dos) Few bikes that i thought of:
a) Shine & Unicorn were not available off-shelf, 6 months waiting period and no TD too (Cursed them: shove it up ur).
b) Thought of Avenger too, mileage is less and i didn't like the height of the bike, cost was also too high.
c) Bajaj Discover was also on my mind, TDs was ok but somehow it didn't please me to own one.
d) Thought of Gladiator, they said SZ. No TD and waiting period was 1 month(Ride urself to hell after one month).
e) checked few vehicles from TVS, not satisfied.
f) Actually i was ok with Slingshot and went for TD; i somehow felt that i should do a TD on GS too. Thats it, i was overwhelmed with its performance and smoothness.Instant TD and delivery time was one day. I feel usually No TDs and waiting period are the key factors for many to cut off few vehicles from their shortlisted vehicles.

Tres) Few things that i feel missing/to be added/ to be modified are:

a) Side stand indicator.
b) The headlight Dome, always loved those round or cheetah(local name in JC road, bangalore) headlight domes
c) Tyres are not reliable wrt grip,
d) Handle distance (length and height) from seat.
e) Length of gear shifter.
f) Brake and clutch lever manufactured with a slightly angled outwardly, they are not parallel to the grip/handlebar.
g) I hate stock stickering on most of the bikes that i have seen. Hence have removed all stickers on my bike except on the tank as it is lacquer/whatever coated. i am not sure how to remove.

cuatro) Post purchase findings:
a) I feel, bike's weight is an added advantage for its stability.
b) 6 gears will help a lot on long rides, used to ride a four geared vehicles and crave for fifth gear and now with GS150R; got 6th gear. Awesome smooth long drives especially on traffic free roads and no need to mention about highways.
c) Instrument panel is choooper, ahhh; all my old vehicles had analog meters.
d) Huge Tank, at times i have filled 18 ltrs of fuel which serves me for minimum 15 days of 60kms/day along with short drives during weekend.
e) Heard many complaining about rear/front brakes. To me, they are fine/adequate as i have all these days lived with drum brakes. I always have a habit of using both the brakes in 50:50 ratio (rear: front).
f) Bike will not sway when a huge vehicle passes beside you. When getting onto the tar road too from mud road with 2 to 5" of height, transition is smooth not like many other bikes dancing and completing this rock climbing.
g) Stability, Smoothness, Clutch performance, gear shifts are the best major points along with 57 kmpl mileage depending on many factors.
h) Got no goodies along with the bike, depends on showrooms i guess.
i) One good thing that i felt is, the side stand, and sari guard are included by default on all the bikes. Maybe Suzuki would have manufactured at their plant and these guys just fits them and deliver not like other showrooms who will push you to have all these accessories buy along with that "Teflon coating"(full scratch proof Saar).
j) Bike has got front disc brake and rear drum brake.
k) Bike has got 5 point adjustable rear suspension.
l) Many people feel that the headlight needs to be improved. It is adequate for me as i usually drive during daytime and in the evening inside the city where street lights and other vehicles lend me a helping hand ;-) .
m) Seat lock available along with some space beneath the seat (have placed tool kit bag and bike documents).

Cinco) Bike features:

1) Instrument console:
a) It has Engine RPM indicator light.
b) In Eco mode: It will blink @ 4500rpm and will continuously light up @ 6krpm and after.
c) In power mode: It will light up equal to & above 8krpm.
d) Tachometer, Turn signal indicator light, Gear Position indicator, High/Low beam indicator, Neutral indicator, Speedometer, Odometer, 12hour clock display,

2) Break in / Run in details:
a) Engine Break-in Period: Till 800 km - below 5krpm
From 800 km to 1600km - below7500rpm
above 1600km - 10krpm
b) Tyre Break-in Period - 160km.

3) Toll kit details:
a) Tool bag
b) open end wrench (8mm x 10mm)
c) open end wrench (12mm x 14mm)
d) Screwdriver (star and flat)
e) Socket wrench (16mm)
f) Box wrench - (17mm)
g) Box wrench - (22mm)
h) Box wrench - (27mm)
h) Clamp wrench

4) Spark Plug:
CPR6HSA - If apt to get wet use this plug.
CPR7HSA - standard.
Spark Plug - 0.6 to 0.7mm gap

5) Oil & Fuel related details:
Engine Oil recommended - SAE 20W40.
It has engine oil indicator near the kick starter & right foot peg.
1000 ml of engine oil with oil filter replacement.
without oil filter replacement - 900ml only.
Fuel Tank, including reserve - 15.5L.
Reserve - 3.1L.
Fuel Meter has got 5 segments - Flickering of first segment starts from 1.5L , only first segment is shown at 4.0 L, fuel tank capacity - as per manual is 15.5L.
DOT4 brake fluid recommended for front disc brake.

6) Maintenance handy info:
a) Rear axle nut tightening torque - 65N.m (6.5 kgf-m).
b) Rear sprocket drum nut tightening torque - 80N.m (8.0 kgf-m).
c) Rear link nut tightening torque - 16N.m (1.6kgf-m).
d) Front axle nut torque - 44 N.m (4.4 kgf-m).

7) Wheel's info: Both the tyres are tube type.
Front: 2.75-18 42P - mrf nylogrip Zapper-FS (company fitted)
Rear: 100/90-18M/C 56P - MRF Nylogrip Zapper-Y (company fitted)
Pressure:
Solo - Front 25psi.
Rear 28psi.
Dual Front 25psi.
Rear 33psi.

8) Dimensions and Curb Mass:
overall length - 2095mm
overall width - 785mm
overall height - 1120mm
Wheelbase - 1340mm
curb mass - 149kg

9) Specs:
a) Type - Four stroke, air cooled, OHC.
b) Number of Cylinder - 1.
c) Bore - 57.0mm.
d) Stroke - 58.6mm.
e) Displacement - 149cm3.
f) Compression ratio - 9.4:1.
g) carburetor - MIKUNI bs26.
h) Air cleaner - Non woven fabric element.
i) Starter system - Primary kick and electric.
j) Lubrication system - Wet sump.
k) Clutch - Wet multi plate type.
l) Transmission - 6 speed constant mesh.
m) Gearshift pattern - 1 down, 5 up.
n) Primary reduction ratio - 3.476(73/21)
o) Gear ratios
Low - 3.000(33/11)
2nd - 1.750(28/16)
3rd - 1.300(26/20)
4th - 1.091(24/22)
5th - 0.957(22/23)
6th - 0.833(20/24)
Final reduction ratio - 2.929(41/14)
p) Drive chain - R428, 124links.

10) Chassis:
Front suspension - Telescopic, coil spring, oil damped.
Rear suspension - Swing arm type, coil spring, oil damped.
Steering angle - 40 degree (right & left)
Caster - 25 degrees 30'.

11) Electrical Details:
Ignition type - Electronic ignition (CDI).
Spark plug - NGK CPR7HSA.
Battery - 12V 7AH.
Generator - Single phase AC generator.
Fuse - 10A.
Headlight - 12V 35/35W (HS1).
Position Light - 12V 5W x 2.
Brake light/Taillight - LED.
Front turn signal light - 12V 10W x 2.
Rear turn signal light - 12V 10W x 2.
Speedometer light - LED.
Tachometer light - LED.
Fuel meter light - LED.
Neutral indicator light - LED.
High beam indicator light - LED.
Turn signal indicator light - LED.
Engine RPM indicator light - LED.
License plate light - 12V 5W.

12) Service details:
FREE
750 - 1000 or 30days, whichever is earlier.
3500 - 4000 or 90days, whichever is earlier.
5500 - 6000 or 140days, whichever is earlier.
7500 - 8000/190days, whichever is earlier.

PAID
9500 - 10000/240days, whichever is earlier.
11500 - 12000/290days, whichever is earlier.
13500 - 14000/340days, whichever is earlier.

FREE
15500 - 16000/390days, whichever is earlier.
17500 - 18000/440days, whichever is earlier.

PAID
19500 - 20000/490days, whichever is earlier.
21500 - 22000/540days, whichever is earlier.
23500 - 26000/640days, whichever is earlier.
27500 - 28000/690days, whichever is earlier.
29500 - 30000/730days, whichever is earlier.

13) Warranty details:
2 Year or 30,000 kms from date of SALE.
15 services to be availed with specified kms/days from the date of sale of motorcycle without fail to avail the warrant benefits specific.

Had posted it as ownership experience almost 15 days ago. No where to be found on xbhp.
Hence posting it here.
SORRY! if i am not suppose to post it this way.

**punarvasu** · 03-14-2012, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by kripscorp View Post

hi, here red wire what I mentioned is the extra 2 wires that comes from ape RR... I thought its ammeter wire. but didnt show any amps in it.

Regarding the earth connection: One point of stator is connected with black wire and another point is grounded. So I thought, we can use the grounded connection as another point without taking another wire from stator,... Is it wrong ?

Those extra wires are for an indicator in Ape three wheelers and ammeter cannot be connected to it.
One end of stock stator coil is connected to the RR through black wire and the other is grounded. You have to take out this grounded end by de-soldering its connection on the stator plate and adding a piece of wire long enough to reach the RR through the bush on on the stator cover.
I cannot still understand how you connected this grounded wire to RR without extending its length.
Remove everything and start from coil rewinding.

**punarvasu** · 03-14-2012, 05:07 PM

Originally posted by fadeawayraj View Post

Bought on: 11/11/11

Current status: Third service completed two days back(5800kms on Odo).

n) Primary reduction ratio - 3.476(73/21)

o) Gear ratios
Low - 3.000(33/11)
2nd - 1.750(28/16)
3rd - 1.300(26/20)
4th - 1.091(24/22)
5th - 0.957(22/23)
6th - 0.833(20/24)
Final reduction ratio - 2.929(41/14)
p) Drive chain - R428, 124links.

Had posted it as ownership experience almost 15 days ago. No where to be found on xbhp.

Congratulate you for posting the detailed specifications of our GS here which surely will be helpful to the GS owners and others who plan to buy it but the gear ratios of the new GS is as follows:

Primary reduction ratio: 3.476

1st gear: 33/12 (2.750)
2nd “: 29/15 (1.933)
3rd “: 26/20 (1.300)
4th “: 24/22(1.091)
5th “: 22/23 (0.957)
6th “: 20/24 (0.833)
Final reduction ratio: 3.000 (42/14)
Drive chain: R428, 126 links.
This modified gear ratios ensures better pickup than the old ones.

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