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  • Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
    hi guys how are you? lot of in depth discussions going on any way i need a small help i wanted to know if there is a actual bend in the right side of the beam holding the tyres(silencer side) i mean are they really having a bend in all GS. Also i wanted to know how do i check the Oil if it is good or not i removed the cap from the engine part but hardly could i see any point where i could see the oil? Also I am almost reaching the min level so thinking of adding Gulf pride 4T is it mineral oil or semi-synth?

    And yes the 2010GS model are more Darker and i love it that way. I think i don't have any mileage issues currently but having done only 2.1k kms i can't comment fully yet to test the mileage completely. Even my Rear wheel rotates quite fast when in 1st gear in Central stand but i don't think it will have any effect on the Clutch plates because i have a activa and in that as well the rear wheel rotates.

    I am no expert but telling what i know. I am getting a thud sound While shifting from 1st gear to 2nd gear most of the time after that no issues and i don't use clutch for upshifts after 2nd gear, it increases the life of clutch plates and also a bit of fuel efficiency.
    Can anyone tell me is the chain noise common in all GS i am getting noise from it though not very loud but at low speeds i can hear it.


    p.s but i disagree too some extent that GS 150 is a very slow mover when it turns green may not be the fastest like the fz or RTR but surely better than Uni. Any body has tried both 09 and 10 model like me since i feel the 10 model has a little bit more punch and better refinement.
    The beam that holds the tyres at the back is called Swing-arm......I have found it coming out fork like in order to get the rear wheel assembly.........its normal.I dont know what type of bend you are talking about,please click some photos and post it to make it clearer

    Look for a oil level screen positioned on the transmission box,closer to the rear brake pedal,focus a torch on it,check the level through the level ruler placed there.Till now I found the Motul30004T plus as best for pick-up and engine smoothness,its a 20W40 mineral oil.Cant say about the Gulf product.Whatever engine oil you might use,always use the Suzuki Oil filter Purolator,this oil filter has much more depth and filtering abilities than any local filters.

    The gear shift would be a bit harder on the entirely new bikes,loosen the clutch play a bit,It would be ok.

    Honda Activa is a clutchless scooter.....so its normal that the variator rotates with RPMs.GSR is a clutch enabled bike,and its an added property that its wheel rotates in first gear on central stand.

    I have no complaints about its performance.........I roam the streets in the evening with my Local Xbhpian and buddy Nighthawk_Lee on his R15 and we jointly smoke numerous FZs and other air-cooled 150ccs here and there.

    Yes 2010 models are BS4 compliant and have a bit more characteristic punch.Best part it is that ,the other rider doesnt know but sees the GSR smoking him Silently Even if you high rev the bike.....its silent as ever.Gives a pseudo notion of being underpowered while it is actually going to fly
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    • Originally posted by Anupdas View Post
      The self tuning method mentioned before worked great for me. The only problem is that its a trial and error method. Its very safe as long as you remember what your original setting was. Usually the service centre guys set the bikes to a leaner side. You can adjust by making the it richer in steps, half a rotation of the screw at a time. Try to ride as you would normally do. Adjust the knob just as you set the trip meter say two litres will do fine.

      On first adjustment if the mileage is dropping, rotate the screw to the original position and turn the screw to opposite direction. Still NGK Iridium plugs are not available for our GS.
      Hi anup bro, after u do that half turn whether The RPM increase or decrease...?? or no change.....
      ABDUL KHADAR
      currently using GS150R
      PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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      • Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
        hi guys how are you? lot of in depth discussions going on any way i need a small help i wanted to know if there is a actual bend in the right side of the beam holding the tyres(silencer side) i mean are they really having a bend in all GS. Also i wanted to know how do i check the Oil if it is good or not i removed the cap from the engine part but hardly could i see any point where i could see the oil? Also I am almost reaching the min level so thinking of adding Gulf pride 4T is it mineral oil or semi-synth?
        Yes adi u can go now for Gulf 4T plus , which it do wonders for my bike except mileage(47kmpl) and valve noise.Rajesh116 told me it is semi.But don't belive it drain peroid 10,000km . change it at after running 3000km ,if u satisfied use it again otherwise move to motul or agip.
        I am satisfied so far , let see till i change it.to check oil normally in older bikes they have stick with cap so we can see whether oil is less or not by view the stick and also by touching that know how much viscous it have....
        I have no idea for GS
        ABDUL KHADAR
        currently using GS150R
        PULSAR 150 DTSI |CBZ|BAJAJ RTZ 125|RX135G|RX100|KAWASAKI RTZ 100|TVS CHAMP

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        • Originally posted by akfara View Post
          Hi anup bro, after u do that half turn whether The RPM increase or decrease...?? or no change.....
          I would be coming up with a carb tune method soon,just half rotation clockwise or anti clockwise does nothing.All Suzuki GSRs from factory settings run lean which results in low pick-up.Watch this space.I tuned my own bike and it responded beautifully
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          • @MACH50 here are some pics sorry for the quality my Digi Cam is knocked out using my Mobile. The First two pictures is what i am talking about. The later two just adding it since i didn't Post pics of my GS and also people don't think i don't have one .

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            • Carb Tuning

              Fuel screw : Turned in (clockwise) gives a lean mixture.
              Turned out : (anti-clockwise) gives a rich mixture.

              Air screw turned in (clockwise) gives a rich mixture
              Turned out (anti-clockwise) gives a lean mixture.

              Lean means more air, less fuel.
              Rich means more fuel, less air.
              Let’s get started…

              First ride the bike… I mean really ride (not just start and warm it up) for at least 15 minutes or so at varying speeds…. Try to reach above 60 km/hr…. Point is to get the engine nice and hot and prepare it for the tuning.
              Turn the engine idle screw … engine RPM should reach about 3000 RPM. Now tune the air / fuel screw to make the mixture leanest as possible (turn clockwise).
              As you make the air / fuel mixture leaner, the engine RPM slowly decreases… Go on doing this until you have put the fuel screw to the leanest possible point. At the same time, ensure that the engine does not stall, by turning the idle-screw.
              The engine is running and the mixture is lean. If you notice from the engine sound or if you see the tachometer, the engine RPM will not be steady at this point. Now very slowly start turning the fuel screw anti-clockwise, quarter revolution at a time. You will notice that the RPM increases slowly and steadily. Again, do this very slowly. Notice that when you have turned it to approx 3-4 full revolutions, the engine RPM gradually becomes constant. Now Stop Screwing Around… Climax has been reached …. You have attained optimal engine performance setting.

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              • @ Madhu Bhai

                Anxiously waiting for your reply. Don't worry bro, the S.C will take good care of your stead.

                @ Adi

                It took this much time for you to post a pic. I think Mach50 cleared your doubt. I checked my swing arm and its just like yours. Swing arm is a very important section and it will have almost zero tolerance to errors, if anything was wrong you couldn't have even kept bike in straight line,leave cornering.

                @ Abdul Bhai

                I read some tuning methods over net, all of them were done by noting the change in rpm of engine. When a optimum air-fuel mixture is reached the rpm remains constant. When I asked to tune carb, I saw the technician turning the screw more than 3 rotations. Compared to that half a rotation at a time is only a fine tuning and I didn't notice any significant change in rpm. But cold start problem I mentioned earlier have reduced to an extent.

                @ Mach50

                Waiting for that tuning method, if possible click lots of pictures and make a thread in D.I.Y section.

                @ Chiefashman

                I remember reading same method over **********. 4 Strokes only have air/fuel screw and 2 strokes have air screw, bro please edit the post so that we wont confuse anyone. Here is the link for a more elaborate explanation How To Tune Your Motorcycle For Performance and Fuel Efficiency
                Last edited by Anupdas; 07-02-2010, 01:06 PM. Reason: Added comment
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                • Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
                  @MACH50 here are some pics sorry for the quality my Digi Cam is knocked out using my Mobile. The First two pictures is what i am talking about. The later two just adding it since i didn't Post pics of my GS and also people don't think i don't have one .
                  @ Adi,

                  Per the pics it seems like normal and similar to my bike no need to panic

                  @ felix.raghav,

                  The service due date depends on either mileage or due date which ever occurs earlier

                  Example:: if your 4th service due date is aug 16th or 6500 kms

                  If you reach 6500 kms means go to service immidiatly ignore the date

                  If you reach the aug 16th early and the kms crossed is below 5000 or below the 6500 kms then go to service immidiatly don't bother the kms run
                  Sarcasm is my automatic response to stupidity

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                  • Adi........theres a dent in your swing arm
                    Fellow riders note that depression in his swingarm towards right.....did ya all see it ???
                    I dint find it on my ride !!!!!
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                    • Originally posted by thefalcon View Post
                      Did you consult with the service centre if we can fit RC1060 ?
                      I thought it may not be possible because our air filter seems to be enclosed in some cylindrical place..

                      Even i thought about fitting it, but without upjetting and if it does not decrease mileage. (just for the sound)
                      If i consult the SC regarding aftermarket Air Filter, they will surely stop me from fitting it and say that it will Void the Warranty n crap like that.
                      I think, we can fit a K&N in any Bike and space should not be a constraint.
                      I have read in the K&N Website's Comments Section that a Guy has fitted RC-1100 to his GS successfully and is happy with it.

                      If you fit K&N without Upjetting, then i think it will result in Reduced Pickup but better Mileage. For better Pickup, Upjetting is essential.
                      I am a Novice in this Process but i know a Guy who is into Bike Modding.
                      But after reading Mach50's Post, still not decided if to go for K&N now as it might mess up the ECO and POWER Mode Settings.

                      Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                      I wont Mod my GSR.............to me,the dual modes of ECO and PWR are fully functional and needs feedback from the ECU.Any unskilled mod to the air-fuel mixture system would screw the actual setting of the ECO,PWR modes.

                      But if u really intent to mod it,these are the things to watchout,
                      1.KN really increases thrust.....introduces a lot of cold air into the chamber,so upjetting is necessary.
                      2.While upjetting it would be difficult to find another jet size which would conveniently fit into the carb.You really need luck on this.Present carb on GSR is Mikuni BS26.......which ironically is the same carb used on the Kawasaki Wind 125 bike(a 125cc bike!!!).
                      New Pulsar150's UCD 29mm would be a good carb,but problem is,our GSR has got electronics fitted into the carb for mode alignment.So,if its possible to attach those electronic on the Bajaj Pulsar carb........go for it.But dont use anything less than 29mm,for a really big boost.
                      3.Since the Volumetric pressure inside the combustion chamber would be increased for the high air-fuel mix and ignition,try to get the Catcon out of your exhaust.You need to do this step seriously if you really need that power punch.A free flow exhaust is most welcome but,it will destroy the sweet tune of the bike and make the world know your bike is highly modded.(feels funniest when I smoked a P180 with a loud exhaust in my locality with my GSR )
                      4.Try getting your hands on a NGK Irridium CR7HIX spark plug if possible along with original spitfire power cables.These things would ensure that you get the fire to ignite your power at any rpms.
                      The mods mentioned above ironically also increases fuel efficiency when the vehicle is ridden normally !!!! Rip the vehicle and your FE would decrease to 40kmpl.

                      I hope thats all I can say about modding the GSR fruitfully.With these mods the functionality of PWR and ECO modes wont be hampered.
                      Woooooo. That's a lot of Mods Bro. I am a Novice when it comes to technicality of these Mods but i know a Good Guy here in Pune who is into Bike Modding. Also, i do not plan to change the complete Carb. as of now. Just planning to add more Jets to it to make it Optimum, if i go for K&N. Changing to a Bigger Carb or FFE, that i might think probably after the Bike has completed it's Warranty Period.

                      Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                      I would be coming up with a carb tune method soon,just half rotation clockwise or anti clockwise does nothing.All Suzuki GSRs from factory settings run lean which results in low pick-up.Watch this space.I tuned my own bike and it responded beautifully
                      Am eagerly waiting for this Space as somehow i feel that my Bike's Pickup is Low and i would like to tune it properly for Good Pickup but do not know the exact process. I would like to try this Process before i think about going for a K&N.

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                      • Yesterday I wanted to lube my chain and I thought of doing what I used to do on my cycle. After I cleaned the chain with kerosene I let it dry completely. Then I dissolved some grease in hot kerosene, then filled it ito an oiling can and lubed the chain while it was still hot. It works great.
                        The idea is that the grease will get into all the gaps without trouble like this and eventually the kerosene will evoporate away leaving only grease which will give superior lubrication. There wont be any excess grease to attract dust and sediments as well.
                        Last edited by BLITZ; 07-02-2010, 01:41 PM.
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                        • Originally posted by Anupdas View Post

                          @ Abdul Bhai

                          I read some tuning methods over net, all of them were done by noting the change in rpm of engine. When a optimum air-fuel mixture is reached the rpm remains constant. When I asked to tune carb, I saw the technician turning the screw more than 3 rotations. Compared to that half a rotation at a time is only a fine tuning and I didn't notice any significant change in rpm. But cold start problem I mentioned earlier have reduced to an extent.

                          @ Mach50

                          Waiting for that tuning method, if possible click lots of pictures and make a thread in D.I.Y section.

                          @ Chiefashman

                          I remember reading same method over **********. 4 Strokes only have air/fuel screw and 2 strokes have air screw, bro please edit the post so that we wont confuse anyone. Here is the link for a more elaborate explanation How To Tune Your Motorcycle For Performance and Fuel Efficiency
                          Suppose i try to tune my carb and forget the initial settings,
                          and it gets messed up (its a very possible situation )
                          How bad of a problem would it be to correct it back to optimum settings ??

                          I've not yet tried anything, i'm scared that i might end up with a bike giving low mileage and power forever, if i try anything.

                          Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
                          Adi........theres a dent in your swing arm
                          Fellow riders note that depression in his swingarm towards right.....did ya all see it ???
                          I dint find it on my ride !!!!!
                          I have a similar dent in my bike.. guess its normal....
                          check again on the right side swingarm(inner side). i think every bike has it.

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                          • Falcon......my swing arm is not dented........I can assure you.

                            CARB TUNING GUIDE :

                            For the Suzuki GSR........
                            Tune the carb as adviced in the Bike advice article.I also participated in making that article and you will find my suggestions under the name of Suddhatma Mukherjee.

                            Take note:
                            Mikuni BS26mm has Bronze colored Fuel screw on its left side.......or the left side of the bike.The Steel colored Idling screw is on the right side,pointing vertically upwards-supporting the dual throttle cable.I wont explain which side rotation makes lean or rich.....as I expect confusion out of it.Just follow whats written below


                            For the GSR,take the bike out for a ride-ride for about 15 minutes and do some 2-3kms,this is the perfect engine warm up.......
                            Next,bring the bike home or at garage,put it on central stand.
                            Get the screw driver out of your tool kit and proceed as follows-
                            1.raise idling to 3000 rpm by turning the idling screw,then turn the fuel screw clockwise till lock(count the clockwise rotations),rpms would come down to around 1400rpm.
                            2.Next lower the idling to 1000 rpm with the idling screw,the bike would be about to stall.This means you have reached leanest possible mixture.
                            3.Then turn the Fuel screw anti-clockwise,four rotations.........bingo,you are at optimum tune.Rpms would auto-matically rise to 1500-1600 rpms from 1000rpms lower the idling screw a bit to bring it around 1500rpms.

                            You will find the engine humming without any up or down or irregularities in engine beating.
                            Mine is at 4.5 rotations anticlockwise from lock,5.0 rotations anticlockwise from lock would make rich mixture.

                            While turning the fuel screw of my bike to lock position clockwise,It had 2.5 rotations on factory set up........which is at leaner position.But now its 4.5 rotations from Lock.

                            Tests to affirm if your tuning is ok.
                            1.After the tuning is over.......and you are done setting the idling rpm.........rev the engine till 6500rpm and leave the throttle.If the rpms falls and stops at 1500rpm exactly....then your tuning is alright.If it falls below idling rpm......your tuning is not stable......try it again.If the rpm fall at stop is higher than idling setting,lower the idling by the idling screw.Which means that your bike was not at normal temperature during the tuning.It was colder.

                            2.After you have been through the first test........keep the engine running,sit the bike on the central stand,engage the first gear,slowly engage the clutch fully.If the rear wheel keeps turning without jerks and without the engine stalling,it means your idling rpms are very much stable and the tuning is perfect.Shift gears and watch for the same in every gear.If its ok in every gears......congrats....you have tuned your bike well Go now smoke
                            Last edited by MACH50; 07-02-2010, 01:58 PM.
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                            • Originally posted by BLITZ View Post
                              I dissolved some grease in hot kerosene
                              How do you heat the kerosene here? Isn't there the risk of it igniting?
                              Also, where did you come across this menthod of lubing. Its probably my lack of knowledge, but haven't come across it earlier.

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                              The pleasure is when your rear wheel slides, and you bring it back; and when the front wheel lifts, you take your time bringing it back.

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                              • the bend is there in lot of bikes even CBZ xtreme but i am talking about the dent or whatever it is since i can't call it a dent if it is there in all bikes.The Bend is fine even i had doubts about the dent. If it is only in mine then i will go to the SVC does it come under warranty since i haven't had any accidents which will create a dent form inside.

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