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**Ivin** · 04-10-2017, 07:48 AM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post

If i remember well, FZ16 was available earlier but it disappeared from website only along with R3.
Something is going on and Yamaha is not ready to reveal the reason. Hope they give some statement but media needs to highlight this.

Yamaha Ray, FZ-S & Fazer Discontinued From the Indian Market - NDTV CarAndBike

Yamaha FZ-16 and FZ-S carb discontinued. - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/34061-yamaha-fz-16-fz-s-carb-discontinued-2.html

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Auto news back before an year ago confirms FZ 16 was discontinued, and was also confirmed by Yamaha according to the above news link and many other links across the net.

Later they put FZ 16 back on site, then removed again, then again back on site :P

**IamAditya** · 04-10-2017, 10:00 AM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Ivin View Post

Yamaha Ray, FZ-S & Fazer Discontinued From the Indian Market - NDTV CarAndBike

Yamaha FZ-16 and FZ-S carb discontinued. - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/34061-yamaha-fz-16-fz-s-carb-discontinued-2.html

Motorcycle news from around the world, worth a discussion!

Auto news back before an year ago confirms FZ 16 was discontinued, and was also confirmed by Yamaha according to the above news link and many other links across the net.

Later they put FZ 16 back on site, then removed again, then again back on site :P

May be stock clearance.

**dineshaugustin** · 04-10-2017, 11:29 AM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by IamAditya View Post

May be stock clearance.

FZ 16 carb was in sales along with the FI version for long time and Yamaha said it is due to the demand for the bike they dont want to discontinue, but fazer was discontinued immediately when FI was launched.
I dont think stock clearance was the reason but the BS4 norms maybe.

**Ron Syl** · 04-10-2017, 04:33 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Finally i upgraded to R3 from R15 (still have it with me)

Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post

But iam not sure what this has to do with removing the R3 from their web page.

I hope they dont remove R3 from India

They wont remove R3 from india.
As far as the removal from website is concerned, many are stumped by it but the reason is the BS3 - BS4 issue. It will be back once the BS4 stuffs are cleared.

Originally posted by NH08 View Post

This is a guess only. Regarding the removal of R3 from the website, it is stated that it was because of R3 not being BS 4 compliant. However, there is one question - are all other models (from 100cc commuters to 1800 cc Vmax) of Yamaha BS 4 compliant? They are still there. And also from other companies like CBR 250R, Navi etc. None has been removed from their websites.

R3 was BS4 compliant but yamaha had reg it just for BS3. God knows why though. There will be minor changes to the BS4 R3 that will be launched next which will probably be better than BS4 norms is what i heard. They are usually ahead in these things. Also removal from website might also mean some changes in spec sheets.

Originally posted by bikersdream View Post

Yamaha never revealed their launchs and plans aggressively like ktm or Mahindra.
so most Indians kept waiting, guessing or moved to other available options in market. Ultimately its loosing side for yamaha, why they don't understand God knows.

Yamaha never is open about its plans to its own company members,let alone general public. Thats how they work. ktm and mahindra need to make sound to sell.
not sure how yamaha is losing in your calculations. do you even know their sale figures or market shares ?

Originally posted by Deathwing View Post

Yamaha 's marketing only exists for scooters and bikes up to 150 cc with fz25 as a exception , is non existent, r3 just arrived at the showrooms without any TD or coverage, likewise there is a bike called the fz09 which is specified on the website , yet I'm yet to see one review of that bike by anyone and nobody even considers or some don't even know the bike is there in the market, such is Yamaha's ignorance. The ones who are considering the z800,900,1000,street triple, monster, I don't see fz09 on those lists.

Yes, yamaha was concentrating on scooter market for a while now. Why not get some share hold in scooters ? numbers matter right?. Yamaha has started to concentrate on performance segment now, with the launch of R3 and especially FZ25. More bikes to come in coming years.
You look like misinformed regarding R3 launch. There was press launch of R3 as well and not to forget the ride with lorenzo promo that happened in BIC where some xbhpians attended. also can u tel me where is FZ09 in the website ? its MT09 FYI, MT09 was launched in auto expo last year. These bikes dont require tele ads or promotional ads. ever seen ducati panigale ads in tv ? was there a ducati scrambler launch ? no right. MT09 was launched are reviewed long back in other countries. also lemme enlighten you, all MT09 that were imported into india are sold.

**Deathwing** · 04-10-2017, 05:25 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post

Finally i upgraded to R3 from R15 (still have it with me)

They wont remove R3 from india.
As far as the removal from website is concerned, many are stumped by it but the reason is the BS3 - BS4 issue. It will be back once the BS4 stuffs are cleared.

R3 was BS4 compliant but yamaha had reg it just for BS3. God knows why though. There will be minor changes to the BS4 R3 that will be launched next which will probably be better than BS4 norms is what i heard. They are usually ahead in these things. Also removal from website might also mean some changes in spec sheets.

Yamaha never is open about its plans to its own company members,let alone general public. Thats how they work. ktm and mahindra need to make sound to sell.
not sure how yamaha is losing in your calculations. do you even know their sale figures or market shares ?

Yes, yamaha was concentrating on scooter market for a while now. Why not get some share hold in scooters ? numbers matter right?. Yamaha has started to concentrate on performance segment now, with the launch of R3 and especially FZ25. More bikes to come in coming years.
You look like misinformed regarding R3 launch. There was press launch of R3 as well and not to forget the ride with lorenzo promo that happened in BIC where some xbhpians attended. also can u tel me where is FZ09 in the website ? its MT09 FYI, MT09 was launched in auto expo last year. These bikes dont require tele ads or promotional ads. ever seen ducati panigale ads in tv ? was there a ducati scrambler launch ? no right. MT09 was launched are reviewed long back in other countries. also lemme enlighten you, all MT09 that were imported into india are sold.

The fz 09 and mt09 are the same error except the name, I've seen one motovlogger doing a short review, companies like power drift, Autocar, etc yet to get a media bike to review. https://youtu.be/6GJqk75GSkg

**Ron Syl** · 04-10-2017, 06:34 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Deathwing View Post

The fz 09 and mt09 are the same error except the name, I've seen one motovlogger doing a short review, companies like power drift, Autocar, etc yet to get a media bike to review. https://youtu.be/6GJqk75GSkg

yes, both are same. since u said fz09 being on website i just pointed out the error. also there are minor differences apart from major similarities.

**Deathwing** · 04-10-2017, 06:42 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post

yes, both are same. since u said fz09 being on website i just pointed out the error. also there are minor differences apart from major similarities.

Are you talking about the tracer,xsr, etc, xsr 300 was spose to come, but mt-03 which was supposed launch last year Diwali didn't happen.

**Ron Syl** · 04-10-2017, 06:45 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Deathwing View Post

Are you talking about the tracer,xsr, etc, xsr 300 was spose to come, but mt-03 which was supposed launch last year Diwali didn't happen.

that mt03 was rumour. anyway this is all OT.

**Finney** · 04-10-2017, 07:03 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post

Finally i upgraded to R3 from R15 (still have it with me)

Congrats! Enjoy the ride!
What color? And which dealer? Do share some pics...

**dineshaugustin** · 04-10-2017, 08:02 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

As per this youtuber Yamaha R3 is confirmed for relaunch. Apparently BS4 issue.
New graphics are expected ( my fav 2017 red) and mechanically shall be same.
Personally i would like the same engine spec, otherwise in the name of 'PS' war, most of the time the torque is lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npNtlqjUpgc

**Finney** · 04-11-2017, 12:39 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by dineshaugustin View Post

As per this youtuber Yamaha R3 is confirmed for relaunch. Apparently BS4 issue.
New graphics are expected ( my fav 2017 red) and mechanically shall be same.
Personally i would like the same engine spec, otherwise in the name of 'PS' war, most of the time the torque is lost.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npNtlqjUpgc

Wow, Great news! this is the 2017 model with ABS!

**Deathwing** · 04-11-2017, 12:41 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Finney View Post

Wow, Great news! this is the 2017 model with ABS!

No abs for India, not even as a option, I guess only the 2018 or 19 models will have it.

**Finney** · 04-11-2017, 12:46 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Deathwing View Post

No abs for India, not even as a option, I guess only the 2018 or 19 models will have it.

Why you think so? 2018 is just 8 months away, they can bring ABS much before the 2018 deadline!

**Deathwing** · 04-11-2017, 12:58 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Finney View Post

Why you think so? 2018 is just 8 months away, they can bring ABS much before the 2018 deadline!

The fact of the matter is that they, won't, it's either expensive or Yamaha is not too bothered about the segment and abs. They could have at least offered it as a option in 2015 itself, in my view any bike over 200cc should be offered with abs atleast as a option.

**Chandan92** · 04-11-2017, 01:11 PM

Re: Yamaha YZF R3 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Deathwing View Post

The fact of the matter is that they, won't, it's either expensive or Yamaha is not too bothered about the segment and abs. They could have at least offered it as a option in 2015 itself, in my view any bike over 200cc should be offered with abs atleast as a option.

Agreed with your point but Kawasaki should have also offered ABS on N300 but they haven't. I guess yamaha would bring ABS early 2018. None of the 300cc CKD bike offers ABS. I think manufacturers are waiting for the government to make it mandatory just like BS4.

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