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**anoopkumar0** · 10-26-2016, 03:31 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Here is a blog review on long ride, Mumbai to Coimbatore return journey.

Honda CB Hornet 160R Long Term Review: After Three Months And 6,500km - Overdrive

**Abhik1** · 10-26-2016, 03:54 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Also just wanted to check if you guys are in a similar situation .

Initially when I start my bike and the engine is cool it runs smooth. After riding it for around 4 km the engine warms up and sounds rough and feels sluggish. Also
noticed between 4000 to 5000 rpm in 1-2 -3 gear it gives some noise. I stay at Hyderabad and finding it difficult to convince the SVC to troubleshoot this problem . Already got the 1st service done and oil change at 300km now the ODO is just 350km . Not sure whats the issue

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=vaRider;1260000]

Originally posted by motobiker View Post

Hey motobiker,
That's really great! Which engine oil you are using and any gear oil for smooth shifting

**Ananda** · 10-26-2016, 04:44 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by mkkvs View Post

To much information about the ingredients spoils the actual taste of the recipe.

I am closely reading all the problems discussed on the group and then observe it on my bike and believe me when I read a issue here, I face the same issue on my bike. Be it loss in pickup or vibrations or no lower-end torque. The same issue does not exist when I forget about it and read about a new issue. Actually its only in our mind.

I purchased the bike in June 2016 and till now completed 2900 KMs. Bike has become smoother day by day. I feel like this engine ages a little slower compared to other bikes. So the things you expect at 1500 Kms, you will get at 3000 Kms and what you expect at 3000 Kms you will get it may be at 5000 Kms. I hope this will also be the case of overall life of the bike. My engine still responds sometimes as if it is a brand new one or is in engine breaking period.

Main problems discussed in this group and my observations are mentioned below :

1) Rusting : This issue was reported very frequently in early posts but now this is not there, so i believe that initial batch of the bikes faced this issue. I had a faced minor rusting as i used to leave my bike in rain, but a quick water service followed up by polish took the rust away.

2) Gearing pattern : Tall gears they say..I dont know the meaning of tall gears but on my bike I feel that the bike can only be driven till 15KMPH on 1st gear, 2nd gear can range from 6-25 KMPH and 3 gear from 20-50, 4th can take us till 65-70 and 5th more than that without much growling. This I feel is good when I almost in dead stopping position I use gear 1 and I dont want to exceed 15 KMPH. For slow moving traffic I use 2nd gear as it can range from 6-25 KMPH. This bike even can start from stand still on 2nd gear but now I am not using it as advised by many members in the group. For most of the city ride 3rd and 4th gear are sufficient as it can take till 65. fifth gear i am mostly using on highways and open roads where I peaked till 90. Till now i had not tried the max speed of my bike.

3) Poor Headlight throw : Yes this problem exists. I am also looking for a solution, may be i will get some additional fog lights on leg guard as winter is coming (Any suggestions are welcome here) . For city driving I feel light is just sufficient.

4) Comparison with gixxer and apache rtr 160 : Most of the comparision is between these three bikes only and everyone is forgetting FZ. I believe the design of the three bikes is for different purposes.

Gixxer is more focussed on college students and hence very small pillion seat. Also the ground clearance of the bike is low. This makes the bike compact overall and hence is better flickable. Surprisingly though hornet is bigger and heavier it never disappoints when we try to flick the bike. Pillion seat is good and I did triples a few times (in the streets only) without any problem. [/COLOR]

RTR is a different concept and race inspired, when someone says its race inspired we feel that it has better lowend pickup and RTR does have that...but the vibrations still exists in the newer generation of RTR also. Hornet though has a very minor difference in lower end pickup but is vibration free (atleast till 80 after which some people faced vibrations).

Hornet is a more sporty type commuter which will suit college students as it is stylish, racing guys as it has decent pickup , mature guys as it has both comfort as well as mileage.

5) Stiffer suspension : I am a sufferer. This bike does have a stiff suspension so I have to slow down a bit when I see a pot hole. Any suggestions are welcome here.

Overall I am happy with the bike and having fun riding it. Hope that it has long way to go.

Bulls eye !!!!

**HornetRider** · 10-26-2016, 04:46 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

This is my first bike(Non CBS).The car in front of me braked suddenly and i was behind coming at a speed of 50 so i pressed the rear brake only a bit hard and the bike skidded and i fell.I was unaware of engine braking and pulse braking at that time.Did not face any injury as i was wearing gloves and a little bit scratch on my knee.The bike suffered little scratches near the Honda logo in the side of the Tank.Due to the crash while turning the bike it was not as free as before as some wires near the fork came in between.When i gave to Honda ASV the next day they repaired it and i was charged INR170.They changed one handle peg and placed the cables correctly.After this service i am seeing less pickup in my bike and its as if it has lost its earlier power.After the crash when i rode the engine was powerful and performing well.I did my first service at 350km and had changed engine oil at that time.The crash happened at 1650km.I went to the service centre again and the bike was carb tuned and the service centre guy ride rode the bike and said the bike is good but i am not feeling the earlier power surge.It used to accelerate with a little bit of rev but now i have to rev it little harder.It is at 2000km now and the engine is a bit rough or sluggish when i accelerate quickly.It is smooth when i accelerate linearly for few kms then after some kms the engine seems sluggish and rough and facing less pickup then before crash.Did the service centre guys do something to my bike.What should i do now to get the earlier pickup ?

**Ananda** · 10-26-2016, 04:52 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

[QUOTE=Abhik1;1259932]

Originally posted by Ananda View Post

I am a happy customer. I just followed valuable inputs given by our members and manual. now the engine is smooth and powerful. the below two point are the most discussed and is character of this bike. which cannot be coined as shortcomings.

1) first two gears are shorter and has no powerful lower end punch.
2) Switch gear has nothing flattening but serves the purpose.

Headlamp is letdown but alternatives are available which will not void warranty.

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Hi

I felt like my new bike was much smoother in the first 150km , post which I feel the engine has become rough and heats up easily . Also the sound is no longer that present . Got the 1st service done early at just 350km expecting a miracle but nothing helped so far . Would you mind sharing what helped getting your bike smooth and stress free. Also do suggest me a good headlight as the throw is terrible.

Thanks Bro

Dear Bro,

You have to wait till the engine break. One day all of sudden bike will feel smooth. This happened to my bike after i took for longer rides (say 60Kms every day). Honda mineral oil is also thin. You cant expect smoothness given by synthetic oil. Regarding headlamp, Well... join the club.

So wait for engine break. read manual carefully. stick to it. complete three services religiously. Then if it suits you..change to motul 10W30 oil. change headlamp (osram silver star).

Good luck.

**KnoXxX** · 10-26-2016, 05:47 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

[QUOTE=Abhik1;1260027]Also just wanted to check if you guys are in a similar situation .

Initially when I start my bike and the engine is cool it runs smooth. After riding it for around 4 km the engine warms up and sounds rough and feels sluggish. Also
noticed between 4000 to 5000 rpm in 1-2 -3 gear it gives some noise. I stay at Hyderabad and finding it difficult to convince the SVC to troubleshoot this problem . Already got the 1st service done and oil change at 300km now the ODO is just 350km . Not sure whats the issue

Thanks in advance

I am also facing exactly the same problem you are. What you have written is what I face too. No help from SVC guys. adjusted the tappets and changed to Motul 5100. But no luck. Bike is still vibey, jerking and the engine rattles after warmed up.

**Abhik1** · 10-26-2016, 06:39 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

[QUOTE=KnoXxX;1260044]

Originally posted by Abhik1 View Post

Also just wanted to check if you guys are in a similar situation .

Initially when I start my bike and the engine is cool it runs smooth. After riding it for around 4 km the engine warms up and sounds rough and feels sluggish. Also
noticed between 4000 to 5000 rpm in 1-2 -3 gear it gives some noise. I stay at Hyderabad and finding it difficult to convince the SVC to troubleshoot this problem . Already got the 1st service done and oil change at 300km now the ODO is just 350km . Not sure whats the issue

Thanks in advance

I am also facing exactly the same problem you are. What you have written is what I face too. No help from SVC guys. adjusted the tappets and changed to Motul 5100. But no luck. Bike is still vibey, jerking and the engine rattles after warmed up.

Hmm sounds we are on the same boat , I have launched a complain with Honda customer care and just got a call from the SVC I bought the bike from they said they will check and rectify the issue .

Below is the email from Honda

Dear Customer,

We thank you for sharing your concerns with us.
Your complaint is registered vide ticket no. 1-11206043919. Please quote this no. for future Inquiries.
We are looking into the matter and shall be getting back to you shortly. We request you to bear with us till such time.
Thanking you & assuring our best attention always .

**Ravii** · 10-26-2016, 06:52 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

My idle rpm is 1 k but when engine becomes warm they goes to 1.5 to 2 k as idle... Why this problem is coming??

**vaRider** · 10-26-2016, 08:27 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by Ravii View Post

My idle rpm is 1 k but when engine becomes warm they goes to 1.5 to 2 k as idle... Why this problem is coming??

I had also same issue and bike had hard time crossing 90. Then mechanic showed idle got high

Dunno how.... Very weird

**Jith_in** · 10-26-2016, 09:04 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by Ravii View Post

My idle rpm is 1 k but when engine becomes warm they goes to 1.5 to 2 k as idle... Why this problem is coming??

Lean afr thats why rpm varies this much it should be 1k during cold and 1.25 -1.5 when engine is warmed up. Get ur carb tuned from an experienced mech I repeat only experienced one can get it correct.

**SatSon** · 10-26-2016, 09:08 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Guys, at what RPM does the Hornet do 80km/h in 5th gear?

**Shashank K R** · 10-26-2016, 09:27 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Around 6000rpm.

**vaRider** · 10-26-2016, 10:03 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by Jith_in View Post

Lean afr thats why rpm varies this much it should be 1k during cold and 1.25 -1.5 when engine is warmed up. Get ur carb tuned from an experienced mech I repeat only experienced one can get it correct.

Any pointers on AFR adjustment? How to know when it's right

**Jith_in** · 10-26-2016, 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by vaRider View Post

Any pointers on AFR adjustment? How to know when it's right

Here u go http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/showthread.php?p=904152
Thanks for this very informative post [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] [emoji4]
This method is for the keihin carburetor I don't know which carb does the hornet have. if it is from mikuni then no need of inceasing rpm to 3 k and don't remove the tube going to carb insulator.

You can check the afr by looking Spark plug it should have a brick red / brownish color for ideal mixture. Whitish is lean and black is rich.
Unsteady rpm when idling, poor pickup, engine heating, rpm takes time to come down when reved, cold start issues are symptoms of lean afr.

**vaRider** · 10-26-2016, 11:43 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by Jith_in View Post

Here u go http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...-hunk-697.html
Thanks for this very informative post @sibun [emoji4]
This method is for the keihin carburetor I don't know which carb does the hornet have. if it is from mikuni then no need of inceasing rpm to 3 k and don't remove the tube going to carb insulator.

You can check the afr by looking Spark plug it should have a brick red / brownish color for ideal mixture. Whitish is lean and black is rich.
Unsteady rpm when idling, poor pickup, engine heating, rpm takes time to come down to zero when reved, cold start issues are symptoms of lean afr.

Wow!Awesome post!!!My idle doesn't drop fast. Probably that's the indicator afr adjustment required for me. 4900 km now.

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