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  • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

    Originally posted by #bpk View Post
    Yeah, hornet wakes up only from 3rd gear, due to low speed limits of 1st and 2nd gear, acceleration feels sluggish. Hornet is more suitable for open roads, i guess. But in some YouTube videos I've seen hornet doing the maximum speed of 45kmph in 1st gear itself, i don't know how their bikes are so free revving. Search hornet 1st gear challenge in YouTube.
    I checked speed yesterday.
    From 1st gear to second when it it start rolling around 15kmph.
    I ride with pillion and mostly up-shift from 2nd gear at 35Kmph which is ideal to accelerate quickly. On upward inclination I reached at 45Kmph in 2nd gear at around 6K RPM and pull was really great leaving behind cars and other bikers were creeping.
    A little training to bike, running in higher RPM makes great difference, also it makes grunt bassier.
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    TravelLog: Hyderabad to Hampi
    Honda Hornet 160R Owner's Manual / Serviceshop manual

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    • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

      Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post
      I checked speed yesterday.
      From 1st gear to second when it it start rolling around 15kmph.
      I ride with pillion and mostly up-shift from 2nd gear at 35Kmph which is ideal to accelerate quickly. On upward inclination I reached at 45Kmph in 2nd gear at around 6K RPM and pull was really great leaving behind cars and other bikers were creeping.
      A little training to bike, running in higher RPM makes great difference, also it makes grunt bassier.
      That's nice to hear, i will train my bike after 2nd servicing as per your method. [emoji2]

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      • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

        Did anyone got waterproof seat cover?
        I have the official seat cover like following. It sucks when it rains. I put the bike cover but that is not complete waterproof.
        I socked the water and I have to office like I wetted my pant

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        Originally posted by hisham2k9 View Post
        Attaching herewith the Hornet's seat cover, grip cover and chrome bar ends


        This claim to be waterproof:

        Any recommendation.
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        TravelLog: Hyderabad to Hampi
        Honda Hornet 160R Owner's Manual / Serviceshop manual

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        • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

          Originally posted by #bpk View Post
          Are u facing any leakage in engine due to thicker oil. In a YouTube video a hornet engine got seized due to pouring motul 20w 50 oil.
          Yes even my unicorn 150 got seized at mere 25k kms on odo when I changed to 20w50 grade oil from savsol. Previously I was using motul 300v 10w30. The total cost incurred for that was around 13k[emoji17] . So its better to stick with 10w30 rather than going for thicker grade oil.

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          • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

            Originally posted by vengymgen View Post
            Yes even my unicorn 150 got seized at mere 25k kms on odo when I changed to 20w50 grade oil from savsol. Previously I was using motul 300v 10w30. The total cost incurred for that was around 13k[emoji17] . So its better to stick with 10w30 rather than going for thicker grade oil.
            Yes, we should use 10w 30 grade only

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            • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

              Originally posted by #bpk View Post
              Yes, we should use 10w 30 grade only
              10w40 works fine too... Using yamalube FS 10w40 for the second time...
              Next summer I might try castrol power 10w50...
              The first no. Of the oil is for its thinness and in how much lower temperature it would support... The latter no. In oil denotes it resistance to heat at certain temperature....
              As long as we keep oil grade at 10 or even 5 it would be ok... The latter grade shouldn't go bellow 30...
              Check the oil chart in the manual.... There is a limit on what tolerance of oil to use

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              • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                Originally posted by adityagaur51 View Post
                10w40 works fine too... Using yamalube FS 10w40 for the second time...
                Next summer I might try castrol power 10w50...
                The first no. Of the oil is for its thinness and in how much lower temperature it would support... The latter no. In oil denotes it resistance to heat at certain temperature....
                As long as we keep oil grade at 10 or even 5 it would be ok... The latter grade shouldn't go bellow 30...
                Check the oil chart in the manual.... There is a limit on what tolerance of oil to use
                But similar cases of engine failure happened to a fz 250 rider named cherry (source : YouTube ) He put 10w 50 grade instead of Yamaha recommended 10w 40

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                • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                  Originally posted by adityagaur51 View Post
                  10w40 works fine too... Using yamalube FS 10w40 for the second time...
                  Next summer I might try castrol power 10w50...
                  The first no. Of the oil is for its thinness and in how much lower temperature it would support... The latter no. In oil denotes it resistance to heat at certain temperature....
                  As long as we keep oil grade at 10 or even 5 it would be ok... The latter grade shouldn't go bellow 30...
                  Check the oil chart in the manual.... There is a limit on what tolerance of oil to use
                  Originally posted by #bpk View Post
                  But similar cases of engine failure happened to a fz 250 rider named cherry (source : YouTube ) He put 10w 50 grade instead of Yamaha recommended 10w 40
                  You can stick with 10w-40, Aditya, but go ahead and experiment if you're curious. 10w40 is perfect for Indian summers too. When your vehicle really gets old and starts to sip oil or just before that, you can shift to a 15w-50 or 10w-50. Honda's chart in the Owner's manual is wrong, I think.

                  Higher the temperature outside, difficult for the engine to lose heat, i.e., it will run slightly hotter. Bajaj recommends 10w-40 for some of their vehicles sold in Russia !

                  xW-50 will stick to the bore better than xW-40. But at operating temperature, xW-40 will flow better. This ease-ness of flow too is important. Except a few vehicles where a dedicated nozzle sprays oil to the piston pin, most of the cylinder-piston is "splash lubricated", i.e., oil goes inside rotor filter, gets filtered, goes "into" the hollow of the crankshaft and reaches the connecting rod bearing (big end). Then it simply exits that bearing and "splashes" on the bore/piston/rings. Have you seen South Indian ladies/petty shop owners splash water before their houses/shop early in the morning? Like that.

                  Some bikes like RTR 4v, GS150, Gixxer, some Pulsars (I think NS & 220, not sure) have a dedicated jet/nozzle that sprays the underside of the piston/pin with oil. But in those bikes too splash lubrication is employed chiefly for the bore.

                  Cherry thinks 50 grade oil damaged the engine but it might not be the reason. Dirty oil of wrong grade flowing inside the engine and lubing the parts fairly good is better than no oil. Of course, the SVC will be happy to blame the 50 weight oil as then they can now refuse warranty benefits. Yamaha's manual used to recommend 20W50 and 20w40 in FZ V1 (the SVC/User can make a choice). I also don't think 20w50 damaged the Hornet (Can you share that Youtube link please?), must be some other reason.

                  Interestingly, the very very early Hondas had 10w-40 recommendation, but in India, they chose the 20w40. At the same time, Honda recommended 20w50 for bikes like CBF150 (essentially Unicorn 150) sold in places like Peru. Then, overnight, almost all Hondas throughout the world came with a 10w30 recommendation. It helps in low emissions and better mileage. Another prime factor that will make a manufacturer chose a particular grade is tolerance - the gap between the gears, the gap between the ball of a bearing and it's outer race, etc - this gap should ideally be filled with the oil. More the gap, thicker the grade they prefer.

                  X-Blade is eating into Hornet's sales:

                  Indian 2 Wheeler Sales Figures – July 2018 – Auto Punditz
                  Last edited by ashwanth.r; 09-06-2018, 10:21 PM.

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                  • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                    Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
                    You can stick with 10w-40, Aditya, but go ahead and experiment if you're curious. 10w40 is perfect for Indian summers too. When your vehicle really gets old and starts to sip oil or just before that, you can shift to a 15w-50 or 10w-50. Honda's chart in the Owner's manual is wrong, I think.

                    Higher the temperature outside, difficult for the engine to lose heat, i.e., it will run slightly hotter. Bajaj recommends 10w-40 for some of their vehicles sold in Russia !

                    xW-50 will stick to the bore better than xW-40. But at operating temperature, xW-40 will flow better. This ease-ness of flow too is important. Except a few vehicles where a dedicated nozzle sprays oil to the piston pin, most of the cylinder-piston is "splash lubricated", i.e., oil goes inside rotor filter, gets filtered, goes "into" the hollow of the crankshaft and reaches the connecting rod bearing (big end). Then it simply exits that bearing and "splashes" on the bore/piston/rings. Have you seen South Indian ladies/petty shop owners splash water before their houses/shop early in the morning? Like that.

                    Some bikes like RTR 4v, GS150, Gixxer, some Pulsars (I think NS & 220, not sure) have a dedicated jet/nozzle that sprays the underside of the piston/pin with oil. But in those bikes too splash lubrication is employed chiefly for the bore.

                    Cherry thinks 50 grade oil damaged the engine but it might not be the reason. Dirty oil of wrong grade flowing inside the engine and lubing the parts fairly good is better than no oil. Of course, the SVC will be happy to blame the 50 weight oil as then they can now refuse warranty benefits. Yamaha's manual used to recommend 20W50 and 20w40 in FZ V1 (the SVC/User can make a choice). I also don't think 20w50 damaged the Hornet (Can you share that Youtube link please?), must be some other reason.

                    Interestingly, the very very early Hondas had 10w-40 recommendation, but in India, they chose the 20w40. At the same time, Honda recommended 20w50 for bikes like CBF150 (essentially Unicorn 150) sold in places like Peru. Then, overnight, almost all Hondas throughout the world came with a 10w30 recommendation. It helps in low emissions and better mileage. Another prime factor that will make a manufacturer chose a particular grade is tolerance - the gap between the gears, the gap between the ball of a bearing and it's outer race, etc - this gap should ideally be filled with the oil. More the gap, thicker the grade they prefer.

                    X-Blade is eating into Hornet's sales:

                    Indian 2 Wheeler Sales Figures – July 2018 – Auto Punditz
                    Yeah sir i agree with you that 10w40 is perfect but a little experiment here would help my experience...[emoji38]

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                    • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                      Originally posted by adityagaur51 View Post
                      Yeah sir i agree with you that 10w40 is perfect but a little experiment here would help my experience...[emoji38]
                      Please drop the 'sir'. Yes, yes, go ahead and do it, I too have tried a 20w50 in my GS (It was Valvoline, SS). Initially I thought the vehicle was sluggish but later brushed it off as a psychological thing that happens after an oil change.

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                      • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                        Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post
                        IMO, XBlade looks better with tank and underbelly design. It's more practical with 130 section tyre.
                        X-Blade should really sport the exhaust from Hornet and dual disc breaks and ABS.
                        It would be just killer package.
                        Manufacturers are utter fools.


                        Activa and Splendor are still kind of Indian road. TVS NTorq is gaining the pace.
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                        TravelLog: Hyderabad to Hampi
                        Honda Hornet 160R Owner's Manual / Serviceshop manual

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                        • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                          Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post
                          IMO, XBlade looks better with tank and underbelly design. It's more practical with 130 section tyre.
                          X-Blade should really sport the exhaust from Hornet and dual disc breaks and ABS.
                          It would be just killer package.
                          Manufacturers are utter fools.


                          Activa and Splendor are still kind of Indian road. TVS NTorq is gaining the pace.
                          Xblade has better puckup due to 130 section tyre. Also, i dont understand why honda doesn't give features like gear indicator in premium hornet, but gives it on xblade, due to these reasons hornets production will be stopped due to poor sales, also xtreme 200 r will kill hornet. Hornet will be extinct [emoji22][emoji22]

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                          • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                            Originally posted by #bpk View Post
                            Xblade has better puckup due to 130 section tyre. Also, i dont understand why honda doesn't give features like gear indicator in premium hornet, but gives it on xblade, due to these reasons hornets production will be stopped due to poor sales, also xtreme 200 r will kill hornet. Hornet will be extinct [emoji22][emoji22]
                            If you compare the looks of hero xtreme 200r and hornet, hornet looks better (I don't like xtreme 200r headlight design)..also I don't think as xtreme is much smoother as hornet in its midranges...As a owner of hornet 160r, I can say the main problem with hornet is its low power Delivery in low RPM (this is where gixxer,fz scores I think) ,may the engine power delivery is linear (raises gradually, not instantly). If you blame the reason for low power in low RPM is hornet tyres, then in gixxer this is not the case(having similar kind of tyres). Also the chain getting loose frequently is an another annoying problem in hornet.
                            Last edited by gowthamh; 09-07-2018, 01:01 PM.

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                            • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                              Originally posted by gowthamh View Post
                              If you compare the looks of hero xtreme 200r and hornet, hornet looks better (I don't like xtreme 200r headlight design)..also I don't think as xtreme is much smoother as hornet in its midranges...As a owner of hornet 160r, I can say the main problem with hornet is its low power Delivery in low RPM (this is where gixxer,fz scores I think) ,may the engine power delivery is linear (raises gradually, not instantly). If you blame the reason for low power in low RPM is hornet tyres, then in gixxer this is not the case(having similar kind of tyres). Also the chain getting loose frequently is an another annoying problem in hornet.
                              Fz and gixxer weights roughly about 134kgs also their tyres are radial which causes less drag, but hornet weighs almost 141 kilograms( abs) ,also it doesn't have radial tyres, due to which hornet has less pickup than the duo. Xtreme 200r is a scaled down version of fz 250 with good low end torque and 18.4bhp of power due to which xtreme will be much peppier than 160cc bikes

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                              • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                                Originally posted by #bpk View Post
                                Fz and gixxer weights roughly about 134kgs also their tyres are radial which causes less drag, but hornet weighs almost 141 kilograms( abs) ,also it doesn't have radial tyres, due to which hornet has less pickup than the duo. Xtreme 200r is a scaled down version of fz 250 with good low end torque and 18.4bhp of power due to which xtreme will be much peppier than 160cc bikes
                                I think In hornet the tyres are radial tyres... Correct me if am wrong.

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