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**elviento** · 12-20-2019, 10:43 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by FreeSpiritedBiker View Post

How did you modify the seat?
Please post the photos.

And no, service center guys won't help you with the modifications.
We have to find an expert mechanic outside.

This way..I made the rider seat little bit wider and longer. This allows me to sit back but the handle reach becomes bit difficult, so I wanted to rotate it towards me.

**gowthamh** · 12-21-2019, 09:25 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Even for some good bikes like CBR 250RR, new 150R, they are restricting the sales to other markets alone....

Originally posted by elviento View Post

Honda only works on its scooters and 125cc bikes. Its disappointing. Their portfolio of premium bikes is rarely updated and they just have been sluggishly adhering to the indian compliance. The motogp version was a beauty they just discontinued it..if only they had kept it updated like the r15..I really wanted to buy that.

**Bismaya** · 12-21-2019, 11:27 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by gowthamh View Post

So wat do u think abt the low end performance, is any possibility that honda can work on that??? Am not too technically strong about engine working mechanism. Wat i would like to know is, what on honda can work to improve low end grunt? gear ratios/bore-stroke/installing radial tyres/ wat else?? without redesigning the entire engine.

To be completely honest, I like the low end on this bike, next to Gixxer. The bike is a long stroke and under squared engine. It has a great amount of torque right from the low end. This is something you don't find in other 160cc bikes. A lot of people confuse power for torque. The gearing is tall and the shifts get good after a while. You don't need a radial tyre on a commuter. This is not a hardcore track machine. It's a commuter bike with flat profile and ample grippy tyres. Engine kill switch, better lighting and a less weight (unnecessary on the current model) would be nice additions to the bike. The tyres should be replaced with the ones on xBlade as it's more responsive than the Hornet (tyre size matters; you don't need chunky 140mm rear for good performance).

**#bpk** · 12-21-2019, 01:17 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by Bismaya View Post

To be completely honest, I like the low end on this bike, next to Gixxer. The bike is a long stroke and under squared engine. It has a great amount of torque right from the low end. This is something you don't find in other 160cc bikes. A lot of people confuse power for torque. The gearing is tall and the shifts get good after a while. You don't need a radial tyre on a commuter. This is not a hardcore track machine. It's a commuter bike with flat profile and ample grippy tyres. Engine kill switch, better lighting and a less weight (unnecessary on the current model) would be nice additions to the bike. The tyres should be replaced with the ones on xBlade as it's more responsive than the Hornet (tyre size matters; you don't need chunky 140mm rear for good performance).

Yeah, i don't find trouble in torque, it revs freely and accelerates fast.

**gowthamh** · 12-21-2019, 10:09 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

I find it hard mainly on stop and go traffic, where frequent gear shift is required between first and second. As a result of more shifts, the chain get loosen and lowers the throttle response.. On free roads, it's always a pleasure to ride this beast...

Originally posted by Bismaya View Post

To be completely honest, I like the low end on this bike, next to Gixxer. The bike is a long stroke and under squared engine. It has a great amount of torque right from the low end. This is something you don't find in other 160cc bikes. A lot of people confuse power for torque. The gearing is tall and the shifts get good after a while. You don't need a radial tyre on a commuter. This is not a hardcore track machine. It's a commuter bike with flat profile and ample grippy tyres. Engine kill switch, better lighting and a less weight (unnecessary on the current model) would be nice additions to the bike. The tyres should be replaced with the ones on xBlade as it's more responsive than the Hornet (tyre size matters; you don't need chunky 140mm rear for good performance).

**Bismaya** · 12-22-2019, 11:51 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by gowthamh View Post

I find it hard mainly on stop and go traffic, where frequent gear shift is required between first and second. As a result of more shifts, the chain get loosen and lowers the throttle response.. On free roads, it's always a pleasure to ride this beast...

Is yours one of those so called "Special Edition" models? If so, the chain quality should be better. Also, literally every bike needs shift in stop and go traffic. Using half clutch will loose the chain quicker. I usually tighten the Hornet chain somewhere between 900 to 1200kms. With my riding style, it doesn't get loose that often. I fit 2018 Model's chain on my friend's Hornet and it;s working well so far. Frequently gear shifts are required but if you think the chain is getting abnormally loose, I would suggest getting the chain adjuster/guide and the slackness checked instead.

**gowthamh** · 12-22-2019, 10:13 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

I own a 2017 special edition _ mars orange color...

I never denied that gear shifts are must in traffic for all motorcycles but what i feel is, In hornet the torque in second gear is not sufficient to move the vehicle forward after hitting a considerably large speed breaker/slowed to a single digit speed, engine wants badly to get shifted to first gear.

I used to ride my cousin bro's apache RTR 180, in which it's not the case, With the above mentioned scenario the bike can easily glide in second gear, even with honda shine i feel the torque is good in second gear.

Originally posted by Bismaya View Post

Is yours one of those so called "Special Edition" models? If so, the chain quality should be better. Also, literally every bike needs shift in stop and go traffic. Using half clutch will loose the chain quicker. I usually tighten the Hornet chain somewhere between 900 to 1200kms. With my riding style, it doesn't get loose that often. I fit 2018 Model's chain on my friend's Hornet and it;s working well so far. Frequently gear shifts are required but if you think the chain is getting abnormally loose, I would suggest getting the chain adjuster/guide and the slackness checked instead.

**#bpk** · 12-22-2019, 10:18 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by gowthamh View Post

I own a 2017 special edition _ mars orange color...

I never denied that gear shifts are must in traffic for all motorcycles but what i feel is, In hornet the torque in second gear is not sufficient to move the vehicle forward after hitting a considerably large speed breaker/slowed to a single digit speed, engine wants badly to get shifted to first gear.

I used to ride my cousin bro's apache RTR 180, in which it's not the case, With the above mentioned scenario the bike can easily glide in second gear, even with honda shine i feel the torque is good in second gear.

Check your chain slack. In my case it pulls cleanly even from 8kmph in 2nd gear. Also my bike feels very punchy . Something is wrong with your bike, also check clutch freeplay.

**gowthamh** · 12-22-2019, 10:21 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Guyz,

Would like to know what's the mileage yu all r getting in dense traffic conditions, that requires frequent gear shifts/clutch-brake usage.

Daily I used to commute for office in dense traffic of around 15km in bangalore. Whenever it becomes late for office, i used to harsh ride a bit to cope up with office timings (occasionally).

With the above said scenario, i used to get a mileage as bad as around 40kmpl.. so what about yu???

**Bismaya** · 12-22-2019, 10:44 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by gowthamh View Post

Guyz,

Would like to know what's the mileage yu all r getting in dense traffic conditions, that requires frequent gear shifts/clutch-brake usage.

Daily I used to commute for office in dense traffic of around 15km in bangalore. Whenever it becomes late for office, i used to harsh ride a bit to cope up with office timings (occasionally).

With the above said scenario, i used to get a mileage as bad as around 40kmpl.. so what about yu???

In dense traffic it's impossible to get above 43-45kmpl. 42 is the worst I have got. On my CB Unicorn it's an entire different story. Even with rides like Hornet I've got 47-48kmpl and best I have got is 56kmpl. Again, the high tyres are a sort of Achilles heel for this bike. If a bigger bike and heavier like Unicorn and Unicorn (same engine) can work with a 100 & 110 rear, why not this bike? Honda feel the need to cope with gimmick of FZ & Gixxer and gave the 140 rear tyre. Any 160cc bike with 140 rear tyre has poor mileage. Apache 1604v recently joined the bandwagon when it upgraded from the 110 rear to 130.

It's simple physics. The more effort you put on a vehicle, more fueling is required. I don't see the point of having a 140 rear on a 160cc bike apart from chunky looks and huge cornering stability (why the hell would you corner on a commuter bike?). Anyone who has ever rode a Pulsar 220 can say with certainty that the 120 rear does a good job on that bike and mind you a 220 is far more powerful and has a crazy amount of torque (long stroke engine and with a huge powerband).

Originally posted by gowthamh View Post

what i feel is, In hornet the torque in second gear is not sufficient to move the vehicle forward after hitting a considerably large speed breaker/slowed to a single digit speed, engine wants badly to get shifted to first gear.

It's not the gearing that's at fault here. The torque delivery is same on the xBlade and Unicorn 160. The chunky tyres of Hornet make it a tad difficult in terms of gearing at times. I believe the Unicorn 160 tyre size should have sufficed for this bike or a 120 rear at max but they decided to overtyre it and there we have all these strange gearing ratios. Ride an xBlade and you'll feel the difference.

**gowthamh** · 12-22-2019, 11:07 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

With xblade, it's fine...

Originally posted by Bismaya View Post

In dense traffic it's impossible to get above 43-45kmpl. 42 is the worst I have got. On my CB Unicorn it's an entire different story. Even with rides like Hornet I've got 47-48kmpl and best I have got is 56kmpl. Again, the high tyres are a sort of Achilles heel for this bike. If a bigger bike and heavier like Unicorn and Unicorn (same engine) can work with a 100 & 110 rear, why not this bike? Honda feel the need to cope with gimmick of FZ & Gixxer and gave the 140 rear tyre. Any 160cc bike with 140 rear tyre has poor mileage. Apache 1604v recently joined the bandwagon when it upgraded from the 110 rear to 130.

It's simple physics. The more effort you put on a vehicle, more fueling is required. I don't see the point of having a 140 rear on a 160cc bike apart from chunky looks and huge cornering stability (why the hell would you corner on a commuter bike?). Anyone who has ever rode a Pulsar 220 can say with certainty that the 120 rear does a good job on that bike and mind you a 220 is far more powerful and has a crazy amount of torque (long stroke engine and with a huge powerband).

It's not the gearing that's at fault here. The torque delivery is same on the xBlade and Unicorn 160. The chunky tyres of Hornet make it a tad difficult in terms of gearing at times. I believe the Unicorn 160 tyre size should have sufficed for this bike or a 120 rear at max but they decided to overtyre it and there we have all these strange gearing ratios. Ride an xBlade and you'll feel the difference.

**gowthamh** · 12-22-2019, 11:32 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

8kmph on 2nd gear,

Yeah, as a solo rider.. it works fine. Same punch can't be felt with a pillion

**#bpk** · 12-23-2019, 12:04 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by gowthamh View Post

8kmph on 2nd gear,

Yeah, as a solo rider.. it works fine. Same punch can't be felt with a pillion

I am saying this with pillion . Check your throttle freeplay .

**raaz321** · 12-24-2019, 12:30 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by gowthamh View Post

I own a 2017 special edition _ mars orange color...

I never denied that gear shifts are must in traffic for all motorcycles but what i feel is, In hornet the torque in second gear is not sufficient to move the vehicle forward after hitting a considerably large speed breaker/slowed to a single digit speed, engine wants badly to get shifted to first gear.

I used to ride my cousin bro's apache RTR 180, in which it's not the case, With the above mentioned scenario the bike can easily glide in second gear, even with honda shine i feel the torque is good in second gear.

mine is also 2017 special edition mars orange and i feel the same 2nd gear can't pull when slowed down to single digit speed or going through steep slope.

**#bpk** · 12-24-2019, 01:23 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by raaz321 View Post

mine is also 2017 special edition mars orange and i feel the same 2nd gear can't pull when slowed down to single digit speed or going through steak slope steep slope.

In 2019 model it has been resolved .

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