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  • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

    Originally posted by srinath2494 View Post
    Today while starting off from a signal the motorcyclist before me started and stopped all of a sudden. Since I started after him, I quickly had to hit the brakes. I had my right leg on the road so I hit the front brake lever quickly. As I had stated moving I had given some throttle too. From the front brake I heard a small krrr krrr sound and felt the feeling hard on the brake lever. I ride an rtr 180 ABS version and I need to know if it was the ABS working or some fault with the brake. But the vehicle stopped and after that I went near the pavement and checked the brakes. No visible change too. My bike is 10 days old.

    From what I have heard, abs works only above 10kmph. Since you were starting from a signal, what speed were you at?

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    • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

      Originally posted by srinath2494 View Post
      Today while starting off from a signal the motorcyclist before me started and stopped all of a sudden. Since I started after him, I quickly had to hit the brakes. I had my right leg on the road so I hit the front brake lever quickly. As I had stated moving I had given some throttle too. From the front brake I heard a small krrr krrr sound and felt the feeling hard on the brake lever. I ride an rtr 180 ABS version and I need to know if it was the ABS working or some fault with the brake. But the vehicle stopped and after that I went near the pavement and checked the brakes. No visible change too. My bike is 10 days old.
      Completely normal.Its the ABS module giving you feedback on the brake levers. During wheel lock the ABS comes into action but with stock tyres during that lock ,the tyres skid a little but ABS kicks in. Better tyres like MRF would not give you that little skid too. There is a flip side to this, try this on gravel and the ABS would not leave the brakes to lock and wheels keep spinning. Bear this in mind.

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      Originally posted by Abishek94 View Post
      From what I have heard, abs works only above 10kmph. Since you were starting from a signal, what speed were you at?
      You are right, but this is the condition only when the bike is started with the key and the ABS module keeps self checking(ABS light keeps blinking)until 10kmph. On engine cut off after 10kmph anytime the ABS module will stay switched ON and won't go to self check mode whenever below 10kmph.
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      • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

        .........test.......test.....

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        • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

          please advise me, i want to get my RTR180, 2010 model done 45k kms, overhauled. what parts i have to get changed, from where i may get parts at reasonable price and on demand. is there any spare parts dealer, pl.advise me address in new delhi or gurgaon area. how much it will cost to me. i want to get it done out side service centre of tvs. co. i do not want rebore. it is my first overhaul of my bike earlier i use to dispose off my bike.
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          • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

            Originally posted by bhadoriabtp View Post
            please advise me, i want to get my RTR180, 2010 model done 45k kms, overhauled. what parts i have to get changed, from where i may get parts at reasonable price and on demand. is there any spare parts dealer, pl.advise me address in new delhi or gurgaon area. how much it will cost to me. i want to get it done out side service centre of tvs. co. i do not want rebore. it is my first overhaul of my bike earlier i use to dispose off my bike.

            Why do you want to get it overhauled? :O is there any problem you are facing? And why not svc? Anyway, go to svc and get a quote from them for engine overhaul to get an idea about cost. Its better to get the work done at svc as they will use genuine parts.
            [MENTION=13887]prateek2210[/MENTION], sir you might be able to help him in this matter due to your experience with engine overhaul :P

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            • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

              Originally posted by Chris2292 View Post
              Completely normal.Its the ABS module giving you feedback on the brake levers. During wheel lock the ABS comes into action but with stock tyres during that lock ,the tyres skid a little but ABS kicks in. Better tyres like MRF would not give you that little skid too. There is a flip side to this, try this on gravel and the ABS would not leave the brakes to lock and wheels keep spinning. Bear this in mind.

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              You are right, but this is the condition only when the bike is started with the key and the ABS module keeps self checking(ABS light keeps blinking)until 10kmph. On engine cut off after 10kmph anytime the ABS module will stay switched ON and won't go to self check mode whenever below 10kmph.
              You're right, similar thing happened today i felt the pulses on the lever. Checked brakes and nothing happened to it. Thanks anyway.

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              • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                Originally posted by bhadoriabtp View Post
                please advise me, i want to get my RTR180, 2010 model done 45k kms, overhauled. what parts i have to get changed, from where i may get parts at reasonable price and on demand. is there any spare parts dealer, pl.advise me address in new delhi or gurgaon area. how much it will cost to me. i want to get it done out side service centre of tvs. co. i do not want rebore. it is my first overhaul of my bike earlier i use to dispose off my bike.
                Same question as abhishek's. What needs overhauling? The engine, the piston rings, the forks?
                There are spare parts dealer in Karol Bagh, and you can get them at cheaper price as they all buy it in lots. Second thing, buying and getting it done from svc gives one plus point, that if something happens you can always ask them to rectify it. A road side mechanic will not do it with full precision.
                Regarding costs, I shared the whole bill I incurred here on thread, if unable to find, let me know.

                Originally posted by Abishek94 View Post
                @prateek2210, sir you might be able to help him in this matter due to your experience with engine overhaul :P
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                • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                  Originally posted by satheez_7 View Post
                  Hi Apache owners, New Apache on the cards. Just now saw one test bike in Hosur.

                  Features which I have noticed.
                  1. Mono Suspension
                  2. Oil Cooled Engine
                  3. Split seat
                  4. Bigger box section swing arm
                  5. Front forks height are quite high
                  6. New 130 section rear TVS REMORA tyre
                  7. Regular tube handle bar (No Clip ons)

                  Test bike looks incomplete since most of finish works are not done yet. All body works are similar to outgoing model.
                  Originally posted by susheelkumar View Post
                  Probably a modded bike rather than an official one. I have been hearing such noise since long time & its high time they cross the 180 barrier.
                  Wont trust until they release it in flesh.
                  Susheel, This is not actually modded bike. This is facelifted Apache which will get launched soon I hope!!

                  Originally posted by vivekgautams View Post
                  Even I have got some insider intel about TVS-BMW motorcycles setting up shop (manufacturing unit) in Hosur-B'lore belt and that a "new" bike(200cc or more) is coming in 2015. The last time I got some "new" bike intel, it was just before the launch of the "facelifted" Apache..
                  Vivek, By seeing the bike pics below, there is no clue about BMW involvement because it is just oil cooled Apache engine. But anyway, I am also looking for TVS-BMW motorcycles eagerly.

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                  • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                    Originally posted by satheez_7 View Post
                    Susheel, This is not actually modded bike. This is facelifted Apache which will get launched soon I hope!!
                    Vivek, By seeing the bike pics below, there is no clue about BMW involvement because it is just oil cooled Apache engine. But anyway, I am also looking for TVS-BMW motorcycles eagerly.
                    Is that the new bike (in attached image) you are talking about. Then for my eyes it clearly look like a modded one because:
                    1. No tank air scoops. I dont see any reason why they have to remove it in the latest model as that only adds beauty to the bike.
                    2. Look at the gap between split seats. It doesnt look that professional.
                    3. I feel its the old apache 160 which is being modded. I feel older ones didnt have engine guards.
                    4. if its a test vehicle they will have temporary registration number . Did you find anything like that?
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                    • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                      Originally posted by susheelkumar View Post
                      Is that the new bike (in attached image) you are talking about. Then for my eyes it clearly look like a modded one because:
                      1. No tank air scoops. I dont see any reason why they have to remove it in the latest model as that only adds beauty to the bike.
                      2. Look at the gap between split seats. It doesnt look that professional.
                      3. I feel its the old apache 160 which is being modded. I feel older ones didnt have engine guards.
                      4. if its a test vehicle they will have temporary registration number . Did you find anything like that?
                      Actually TVS employee was riding this bike in Hosur and TVS Logo was there in his jacket and helmet. I spoke with him as well in moving busy traffic. Got just only one info from him, He said this bike is 180 CC. Please don't say this bike is modded any more as I already mentioned bike body parts are incomplete. Sorry to all Apache owners here for polluting this thread. I just thought of sharing this!. And yes bike have TEMP reg number. Attaching below the silencer pic which is again incomplete !

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                      • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                        Originally posted by satheez_7 View Post
                        Please don't say this bike is modded any more as I already mentioned bike body parts are incomplete.
                        Okay point taken buddy .
                        But still, I'm more disappointed that they are still toiling around 180cc.
                        Shame on them...Unlike Bajaj these guys are active in sport too. I believe they should have an advantage with more knowledge. It seems both those divisions have a communication gap or they have not yet found the magic to break the 180 barrier to build durable engines (as sport oriented engines are not meant for durability) for normal commuters.
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                        • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                          thanks for your replies. i have not given full details of my problems. my problems started when my bike done 42k kms. some smoke was coming from bike's silence and engine oil level was going done after 300 or 400kms. ignored this. now oil is coming from spark plug hole and smoke is coming from silencer, oil level is going down very frequently. i think service centres do not have good skulled workers at there centres. when a person becomes expert, he leaves svc and opens his own workshop. i know personally a mechanic who is working for last 20years and very expert in hero and honda engines but he does not have good knowledge of tvs engines. one option is change of head,piston,rings and other items such as bearings and repair and setting of crack shaft etc. second option is change of engine kit, third option is disposal of bike and purchase a new one. but problem is tvs has not changed engine of new bike in any way. no new 250cc bike is coming from tvs in near future. purchasing a new bike with same engine makes no sense. bike is power full, comfortable, light weight,handy and sporty too. please advise me what i should do.
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                          • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                            Guys my 180 chain got a bit loose 2 days before.. Got it tightened at authorized SVC.. But now i hear a small clicking sound from the chain while driving at lower gears.

                            I hear the sound while releasing the clutch too.. But the sound disappears while driving above 60..

                            Anyone with a solutionto stop it?

                            And please suggest me whether to go with TVS Chain Spray or Motul Spray and lube!!

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                            • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                              Hi guys quick question

                              Does the RTR 180 come with steel braided brake lines as part of the stock setup?. Also if not, has anyone tried to fit the pulsar 220's brake lines to the beast?. Any details on this would be appreciated
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                              • Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

                                Originally posted by bhadoriabtp View Post
                                thanks for your replies. i have not given full details of my problems. my problems started when my bike done 42k kms. some smoke was coming from bike's silence and engine oil level was going done after 300 or 400kms. ignored this. now oil is coming from spark plug hole and smoke is coming from silencer, oil level is going down very frequently. i think service centres do not have good skulled workers at there centres. when a person becomes expert, he leaves svc and opens his own workshop. i know personally a mechanic who is working for last 20years and very expert in hero and honda engines but he does not have good knowledge of tvs engines. one option is change of head,piston,rings and other items such as bearings and repair and setting of crack shaft etc. second option is change of engine kit, third option is disposal of bike and purchase a new one. but problem is tvs has not changed engine of new bike in any way. no new 250cc bike is coming from tvs in near future. purchasing a new bike with same engine makes no sense. bike is power full, comfortable, light weight,handy and sporty too. please advise me what i should do.
                                Maybe the engine seal bond is gone. I think the oil leakage will be easily visible in you bike. I think @vivekgautams had mentioned some issue related to this which he said is mainly due to fully synthetic oils from certain manufactures doesnt go well and degrades the bonding. If the smoke is white color that is due to oil burning. Try some other TVS SVC before u make the ultimate decision. If that doesnt help try some local mechanic. I feel its solvable. No need to change bike for the same unless the damage is big & it creates a big hole in your pocket.

                                Originally posted by kavb1986 View Post
                                Guys my 180 chain got a bit loose 2 days before.. Got it tightened at authorized SVC.. But now i hear a small clicking sound from the chain while driving at lower gears.

                                I hear the sound while releasing the clutch too.. But the sound disappears while driving above 60..

                                Anyone with a solutionto stop it?

                                And please suggest me whether to go with TVS Chain Spray or Motul Spray and lube!!
                                Try lubricating the chain. See if any particle or stuff has got stuck in between. Also are you sure they have tightened the chain perfectly. Ideal thing is, there should be some free play in the chain. I mean it shouldnt be complete tight & more loose than wanted. Keep the bike in center stand and crack the engine & put in 1st /2nd gear...see the movement of chain. There shouldnt be too much free play.
                                If that also doesnt help then I think its time for you to change the chain setup. Might cost around 1000/-rs + labor charge. Normally they worn out every 20k kms. But it highly depends on your riding style, tire size, burn-out stunts(if any), terrain(esp. off-road terrain its more pressure for the sprockets.).

                                Originally posted by obe_88 View Post
                                Hi guys quick question

                                Does the RTR 180 come with steel braided brake lines as part of the stock setup?. Also if not, has anyone tried to fit the pulsar 220's brake lines to the beast?. Any details on this would be appreciated
                                I believe the P220's are using brembo brakes(which is really good). But our stocks are as good as theirs and one of the best in this segment. What is your exact need to change? For the kind of power and speed the current setup is more than enough. Try brake efficiently with a ratio (front:rear = 70:30). If that doesnt help bleed the disk oil. and clean the calipers. I read somewhere in xbhp where a person setup them in his bike & he felt its not as good as the stocks. The thing is each bike has a different setup. The one which works well in RTR doesnt have to work good in other bikes, the same vice-versa.
                                So my advice:
                                'For peace of mind Stick with Stocks'
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