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  • Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
    I believe its reverse of the statement you made. at low RPMs, when running rich, extra un-burnt fuel consumes some part of heat generated to get inflammed. That reduces the expansion of air and kills the low and mid range performance. But at high RPMs, Rich mix is required to burn the fuel faster and expand air quicker, as time available for combustion is very less. When running lean at high RPMs, AF mix does not contain enough fuel molecules to form a uniform flame and the combustion becomes non uniform. Ultimately, that lowers the top whack.
    ++1........
    Nothing feels better than to gear up and burn some rubber ! ! !

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    • Originally posted by haxor View Post
      My friends RTR 180's coil burnt as well as clutch plates at 4k km :O


      Clutch plates wear could be due to the abuse of clutch i.e stunts, burnouts!!

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      • Originally posted by haxor View Post
        My friends RTR 180's coil burnt as well as clutch plates at 4k km :O
        Clutch plates gone at just 4k!

        BTW,I am planning my first ever road-trip with my RTR..The distance would be like 300km.Riding solo.Route is Delhi-Dehradoon..chaotic traffic expected! Any suggestions?
        If you ride like there's no tomorrow...worry not there won't be!

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        • got back my bike from first service. Ripped it a bit at 110!!

          The bike's sound has changed since the first service. Less sound.

          Removed grips from handlebar as it was poking, I can feel the bike vibrate like crazy now at 45-50kmph at around 5k rpm. Contrary to what some of them have posted here, I don't see vibrations at high speeds.

          Bike loses grip a lil when turning at high speeds, mainly due to the wind. Brakes are awesome though.

          Anything I should keep in mind after the first service?

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          • Sos!!

            Guys, One of my friend in Bangalore is facing a lot of problems in his RTR 180. Even after repeated visits to the Service Center(Meghdoot TVS) the issues still persist and now he is thinking of selling the bike.

            Does anyone has any contact numbers of local service heads/in-charges. I think the issue needs to be escalated to higher authorities so as to sort out it ASAP.The svc authorities are not paying heed to any of the queries put on them.

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              • Originally posted by shivank View Post
                Clutch plates gone at just 4k!

                BTW,I am planning my first ever road-trip with my RTR..The distance would be like 300km.Riding solo.Route is Delhi-Dehradoon..chaotic traffic expected! Any suggestions?
                Get a portable air pump,tubeless Tyre puncture kit,clutch cable.
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                • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                  Guys, One of my friend in Bangalore is facing a lot of problems in his RTR 180. Even after repeated visits to the Service Center(Meghdoot TVS) the issues still persist and now he is thinking of selling the bike.
                  What issues he's facing exactly????
                  The Magician"

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                  • He has facing vibration problems especially on rear foot pegs which is unbearable,Engine taking hiccups at 3k-5k rpm which has resulted in drop in performance. The front brake is not functioning properly and is tending to lock-up (happened after a minor spill). They are not able to sort it out and are absolutely clueless. Upon instigating, they say all Apaches are like this only!!

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                    • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                      He has facing vibration problems especially on rear foot pegs which is unbearable,Engine taking hiccups at 3k-5k rpm which has resulted in drop in performance. The front brake is not functioning properly and is tending to lock-up (happened after a minor spill). They are not able to sort it out and are absolutely clueless. Upon instigating, they say all Apaches are like this only!!
                      Vibrations at the pegs are the thing which one has to learn to live with in the RTR, as post 6500-7000RPm it becomes unbearable for the pillion.(My FI still gives one hell of a time to it's pillions still)

                      For hiccups probelm tell him to get both the jets cleaned and get the timing checked too.

                      Get the front brake's hose changed.
                      The Magician"

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                      • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                        Vibrations at the pegs are the thing which one has to learn to live with in the RTR, as post 6500-7000RPm it becomes unbearable for the pillion.(My FI still gives one hell of a time to it's pillions still)

                        For hiccups probelm tell him to get both the jets cleaned and get the timing checked too.

                        Get the front brake's hose changed.
                        Nops,My RTR doesnt have any unbearable vibrations at any rpm on both front and rear footpegs.

                        On the Hiccup problems i have already informed him about the said solution and asked him to get it done .But i wonder if they have actually opened the carb or not.

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                        • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                          Nops,My RTR doesnt have any unbearable vibrations at any rpm on both front and rear footpegs.

                          On the Hiccup problems i have already informed him about the said solution and asked him to get it done .But i wonder if they have actually opened the carb or not.

                          Lucky you for not having the vibes even at the high RPM's that too at the rear pegs

                          For the carb part, one has to stand on the heads of the SC guys to make sure they have done that.
                          The Magician"

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                          • hii

                            Hey guys, i am planning to buy new bike this month.
                            Have heard good things about apache rtr 180 bike, so i went for test ride of Apache rtr 180. Sitting posture, exhaust note and braking was good. But i was disappointed by its pick up, it was better by little margin from my Yamaha rx 135, may be bike was not tuned for performance. But that white color was looking awesome.
                            I asked them can i get my bike on 21st of this month, they told me yes i can, they told me i will get the one which i took for test ride, i told them how can they give me bike which is being used by everyone for test ride.... silly people. Than they told me ok they will let me know by day after tomorrow when can i get new RTR 180.
                            Than i went to test ride for p220 but that was not on road, so was not able to figure out about its handling capability. Regarding mileage both bikes gives between 40 - 45, that is what show room guys told me, would also like to hear from you guys.

                            Can you guys tell me which one will be a better option and more fun to ride. What are the pros and cons of both bikes. Price difference between the two will be around 2K, as i will be replacing the stock tyres of apache with nylo zapper FS and S.

                            Thanks
                            When approaching a corner, stay on the gas until you see Jesus. Then brake HARD.

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                            • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                              Yes, that is what usually happens. People tend to rip their bike more after 1st service/run-in and ultimately the mileage drops. Riding style is dependent on mileage, you see!!
                              Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                              Still 35kmpl after hard ripping is a very good average.
                              I guess both of you are right!

                              Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                              Vibrations at the pegs are the thing which one has to learn to live with in the RTR, as post 6500-7000RPm it becomes unbearable for the pillion.(My FI still gives one hell of a time to it's pillions still)
                              Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                              Nops,My RTR doesnt have any unbearable vibrations at any rpm on both front and rear footpegs.
                              Agree with chicane about the vibes on the front footpegs, on my bike its more of a constant tingling (ok a little more than tingling but not unbearable) on the sole and of course the handle bars but when you're post 100kmph there is so much of wind against you I guess it would damp your feel for the vibes. As for the rear foot rest I can't comment much on that because I have never been a pillion on the Apache except for this once when I was a pillion for about 500m in busy traffic.
                              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebars to the saddle.

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                              • Originally posted by abbydance4life View Post
                                Hey guys, i am planning to buy new bike this month.
                                Have heard good things about apache rtr 180 bike, so i went for test ride of Apache rtr 180. Sitting posture, exhaust note and braking was good. But i was disappointed by its pick up, it was better by little margin from my Yamaha rx 135, may be bike was not tuned for performance. But that white color was looking awesome.
                                I asked them can i get my bike on 21st of this month, they told me yes i can, they told me i will get the one which i took for test ride, i told them how can they give me bike which is being used by everyone for test ride.... silly people. Than they told me ok they will let me know by day after tomorrow when can i get new RTR 180.
                                Than i went to test ride for p220 but that was not on road, so was not able to figure out about its handling capability. Regarding mileage both bikes gives between 40 - 45, that is what show room guys told me, would also like to hear from you guys.

                                Can you guys tell me which one will be a better option and more fun to ride. What are the pros and cons of both bikes. Price difference between the two will be around 2K, as i will be replacing the stock tyres of apache with nylo zapper FS and S.

                                Thanks
                                Well i think this question is more apt at the What Bike thread. Anyways, comparing P220 with an RTR180 these are the pros and cons that they have:

                                1. RTR180 is a better handler any given day. Period. If you want a more flickable bike which is fun to negotiate the traffic then RTR wont disappoint you. P220 takes a little more effort in this regard.
                                2. RTR's initial pickup is equal (or better as some would say although by a very small margin) to that of P220. But i dont think you will be racing with a P220 if you buy an RTR or vice versa that these milliseconds would matter to you. But as the speed builds up, the 40cc extra obviously makes its presence felt and leaves the RTR behind. Having a better top end than RTR, the P220 engine is more relaxed at the same rpm than RTR which is good if you are into touring.
                                3. Suspension wise, the RTR's suspension is made for the track and hence feels a little stiff on the bad patches of road. P220 DTSI's suspension has been stiffened after DTSFI but still its better on the bad patches and not as good as RTR on the track or even for that matter on the twisties.
                                4. Looks are relative so i wont go into the debate of which bike looks better.
                                5. Riding position of the RTR is more on the sportier side than the P220. But its only a matter of getting used to before you feel comfortable.
                                6. Mileage is something plus minus 40kmph for the RTR, while the P220 DTSI has been known to give a variable mileage for different riders if you go through the P220 DTSI ownership thread.
                                7. Vibrations are there in the RTR from 4k to around 5.5k which is the speed zone of 55 to 68. P220 on the other hand is almost vibe free till you cross the 6.5k rpm. Now since you will be driving in the city, the RTR's vibe zone will have to experienced more than often as thats the speed we generally ride in cities.
                                8. Straight line stability of P220 is better compared to RTR.

                                Now coming down to the reliability, both the companies are reliable in present times. But face it, whatever bike you buy here, you will be facing some or the other problems, be it minor or major. In my city the Bajaj Probiking is much better than the TVS SVC. I dont know about your city. Ask some owners in your city about the SVC.
                                These were all the differences i could note about the two great bikes. See what you can bear with and what you cannot and then make your choice. Also others in this forum might add to the points i have mentioned. Take note of that too.
                                Last edited by theguitarfreak; 05-07-2010, 01:25 PM.
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