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**shivank** · 11-04-2011, 05:44 PM

^^ It's been quite a while now since TVS has done something interesting for us bikers (barring the ABS, of course!). Even this scoop suggests that it's kind of a cosmetic makeover only.

TVS has got enough resources and potential. I firmly believe a 200-250cc is not far away from now.

Ah, imagine a 250cc screamer based on the RTR series. Kick-a$$, wouldn't it be?

**Himalayan Rider** · 11-04-2011, 06:02 PM

buddy may b its bcoz of the static charge which attract dust particles because ur jeans rub with the tank part

**pranav_salieri** · 11-04-2011, 07:36 PM

^^^ shivank- if rtr even comes with a 200 CC with liquid cooling and Fi it will beat the shit out of the new R15 and even the 2012 pulsar 220 thats for sure!!! cuz RTR 180 it self performs better than r15(even v2) and comes close to 220.only loses out on the top end.....

and my mech told me that my front tyre's beading is not okay its becuase of that my handlebar is wobling...is it true???

and my back right footpeg is ver loose every time i take the bike above 100 km/h it comes off its fold.any soltuion to this??

**Drifty** · 11-04-2011, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by lijok View Post

Actually, I'm sure the coil is intact. The rewinding was done by the GOD of Lighting, as we call him, DR. Vivek aka drvmtm. It could be something else in the circuit that follows. As I have the stock things with me, I'll be (not yet done) putting them back on and checking.

Ok,just keep us updating.

Originally posted by shivank View Post

Ah, imagine a 250cc screamer based on the RTR series. Kick-a$$, wouldn't it be?

What I want from the TVS stable is a smooth refined screamer unit,just like the R15, with loads of torque and better top end.Am just fed up of the vibrations in this bike!

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

my mech told me that my front tyre's beading is not okay its becuase of that my handlebar is wobling...is it true???

and my back right footpeg is ver loose every time i take the bike above 100 km/h it comes off its fold.any soltuion to this??

Your mech is right,get the tyre installed correctly.And regarding footrest,check whether the cotter pin is at its place,if it is,get it tightened with the help of plier.

Update:Recently I had poured Motul 15W50 SS oil in the bike,after some 1500kms of riding found that the bike has lost its revveability.I was better off with the Shell 10W40 oil.Previously,the bike used to rev at 11k easily but now its worse,feels like something is preventing it from revving freely above 6k,there is resistance and its the oil.The W50 grade oil is just too thick for the RTR.Neither I found any great noticeable difference with Motul oil,only the engine remains a bit cooler and less tappet noise.So will drain the oil in some 1k kms and stick to Shell AX-7 10W40 or Shell Advance Ultra 10W40.

**shivank** · 11-04-2011, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

^^^ shivank- if rtr even comes with a 200 CC with liquid cooling and Fi it will beat the shit out of the new R15 and even the 2012 pulsar 220 thats for sure!!! cuz RTR 180 it self performs better than r15(even v2) and comes close to 220.only loses out on the top end.....

and my mech told me that my front tyre's beading is not okay its becuase of that my handlebar is wobling...is it true???

and my back right footpeg is ver loose every time i take the bike above 100 km/h it comes off its fold.any soltuion to this??

You are hard behind R15's a**!

Lets not speculate. A 200cc could well do that, no doubt. But what if all this speculation-of a 2xx bike turns out a complete bummer (stickering job).

As for the beading part in the tire, I have been given the same explanation by a mechanic at TVS service center. My front tire is still doing the job fine. But the rear is now showing signs of ageing. 10k-odd kilometers and IRC is now skidding under hard braking, which was not the case in earlier days. I am satisfied with the performance though. It was super-sticky during its golden days.

I have also dumped the old battery for new Amaron one. Set me back by 1700 bucks!

Along, with the battery change I have also installed the Philips Diamond vision bulb. Rating of 55W as opposed to the stock 35W. To sum it up in one simple word, USELESS. It will drain your battery real quick and doesn't illuminate unless you are doing a million revs. Only that it looks cool with blue tip and goes with white bike. I will be taking it out in a couple of days.

**saipranav** · 11-04-2011, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by shivank View Post

^^ It's been quite a while now since TVS has done something interesting for us bikers (barring the ABS, of course!). Even this scoop suggests that it's kind of a cosmetic makeover only.

TVS has got enough resources and potential. I firmly believe a 200-250cc is not far away from now.

Ah, imagine a 250cc screamer based on the RTR series. Kick-a$$, wouldn't it be?

I asked a TVS engineer if we could expect a higher capacity RTR range bike, he said he is not expecting tvs to launch a bigger cc bike in the near future.
If TVS is launching a bigger cc bike, we would know it very much before the actual launch because TVS does extensive testing before launching a bike, and the news would be leaked somewhere before.

I read somewhere that they test it in some race tracks in foreign countries and all kinds of roads in india.

**pranav_salieri** · 11-04-2011, 09:24 PM

drifty-i feel that the apache is quite smooth only! even r15 vibrates like at 10 k RPm trust me on that..even a well maintained r15.....but tis quite refined in the lower city speeds.this is where RTR loses out....

and the cotter pins are in place...now how do i tighten them with a piler press it hard????

shivank-yeah...its high time tvs becomes the king of peformance bikes....yamaha is an international brand..it gets it technology and styling from bigger CC bikes..whereas poor tvs and bajaj work really hard without any help...and do thier own styling....and of course its VFM!!!

and hate to keep hearing this from some r15 oweners "just beacuse you couldnt afford r15 you bought the RTR"(which was not the case when bought the RTR.i wanted the RTR more than the r15)

when 200RTR comes that will hopefully shut these guys up

**Drifty** · 11-04-2011, 11:12 PM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

the cotter pins are in place...now how do i tighten them with a piler press it hard????

Twist one arm of the pin so that it fits tightly.

Opened the block for some reason a few days ago,clicked a few pics...

MY BIKE after a nice wash....

**Garry_Menace** · 11-05-2011, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by Drifty View Post

What I want from the TVS stable is a smooth refined screamer unit,just like the R15, with loads of torque and better top end.Am just fed up of the vibrations in this bike!

Update:Recently I had poured Motul 15W50 SS oil in the bike,after some 1500kms of riding found that the bike has lost its revveability.I was better off with the Shell 10W40 oil.Previously,the bike used to rev at 11k easily but now its worse,feels like something is preventing it from revving freely above 6k,there is resistance and its the oil.The W50 grade oil is just too thick for the RTR.Neither I found any great noticeable difference with Motul oil,only the engine remains a bit cooler and less tappet noise.So will drain the oil in some 1k kms and stick to Shell AX-7 10W40 or Shell Advance Ultra 10W40.

This is not expected from you, Drifty.

+1

Originally posted by shivank View Post

You are hard behind R15's a**!

Lets not speculate. A 200cc could well do that, no doubt. But what if all this speculation-of a 2xx bike turns out a complete bummer (stickering job).

I have also dumped the old battery for new Amaron one. Set me back by 1700 bucks!

+1

I got it for 1400 (the highlighted "")

**prateekm** · 11-05-2011, 12:57 AM

Someone burnt a firecracker on my bike, got to know it after about 10 days since I was out of town. The glass has got burnt which is marked in the picture with an arrow and when I asked the service center, the guy told me that the whole console has to be changed for 3000. Is there any other solution?

**Krish1417** · 11-05-2011, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

@Krish1417
Bro, the best way to check engine oil is to do it yourself. It's one of the easiest DIY jobs out there. Heck, even i do it

I guess you know it, but i'll advice. Put the bike on central stand on level ground. Wait for some 10 minutes. Use ordinary nose pliers if the gauge oil level cap is too tight. Remove the gauge, wipe it clean and insert by threading in. Once again, remove it and check the level, it should be between the lower and upper level markings (the diagonal shaped textured area seen on the bottom shows the lower/upper levels). If level is less than lower level, top it up.

Now, the tank sides where we rest our thighs (actually holding tight when going in a staight line) with time, gets a very slight cream color tint. I presume yours is a pearl white menace. Just clean on a regular basis. That's what i'am doing.

Thanks for the reply bro..I just bought Veedol Super-swift 10w40 Semi-synthetic,will be using it in the 3rd service

Cost 295 INR.

**adityazawesome** · 11-05-2011, 01:41 AM

what is counnter steering guys..
read that if u push left handlebar at speeds more than 10 wheel turns to right but bike turns left...
though i am a novice rider but have riden a bike at 80 kmph i nevva felt that thing... plz tell about it...

**Rtrlover83** · 11-05-2011, 08:40 AM

@Drifty
Thanks a lot for those pics. Getting to know more about engine internals.
Your bike looks great

@Krish1417
Welcome Bro.
My humble advice is, next time up avoid the Super Swift. I've read some where on the internet that it's not a good oil to go for. Also, it's best if mineral oil's are used for at least 5000km. ELF Moto 4 Pro/Gold, Gulf Pride 4T Plus, Motul 3000 4T Plus, Shell Advance AX 5 etc., are good choices.

@lijok
So happy to see your Leh ride featured in today's The Hindu Metro Plus Weekend. Enjoyed reading it

**Drifty** · 11-05-2011, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by sheelpriye

How? Where? When?

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Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

This is not expected from you, Drifty.

Well,well,I actually used a wrong statement there,its not the usual vibrations from the handlebar or footrests(they are absent),but everytime I try to rev it above 6k the needle refuses to budge,it feels like I am stressing the engine a lot.The W50 oil is to be blamed for this.Anyways will report after changing the oil cause I had checked all other possibilities and everything seems to be alright.Guys think twice before you pour in the W50 grade oil,thats it.

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

@Drifty
Thanks a lot for those pics. Getting to know more about engine internals.
Your bike looks great

@Krish1417
Welcome Bro.
My humble advice is, next time up avoid the Super Swift. I've read some where on the internet that it's not a good oil to go for. Also, it's best if mineral oil's are used for at least 5000km. ELF Moto 4 Pro/Gold, Gulf Pride 4T Plus, Motul 3000 4T Plus, Shell Advance AX 5 etc., are good choices.

Thanks buddy.

ELF Moto4 gold 20W40 or Shell AX-5 20W40 mineral oils well suits the RTR.Tried both of them but I feel Shell is much much better if compared to Elf.

**psr** · 11-05-2011, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Drifty View Post

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Well,well,I actually used a wrong statement there,its not the usual vibrations from the handlebar or footrests(they are absent),but everytime I try to rev it above 6k the needle refuses to budge,it feels like I am stressing the engine a lot.The W50 oil is to be blamed for this.Anyways will report after changing the oil cause I had checked all other possibilities and everything seems to be alright.Guys think twice before you pour in the W50 grade oil,thats it.

Thanks buddy.

ELF Moto4 gold 20W40 or Shell AX-5 20W40 mineral oils well suits the RTR.Tried both of them but I feel Shell is much much better if compared to Elf.

What you have observed about the oil is correct...When I tried a 20w50 mineral in Karizma the bike was quick till 60 Kmph ,but after that became lazy to rev,though was able to do 110 Kmph, it took more time to reach the speed.The difference was the bike was not able to rev as quickly as when 20w40 was in the engine...
Presently running with HONDA 20w40 made by Tide water oil co., and seems to be as good as the Gulf pride 4T 20w40..

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