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  • #9031
    Originally posted by UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA View Post
    Ohke brother lets see. 1 more ques- joel had told to put 2 gaskets below the big bore as the stock has just one. So can u plz tell me what is the essence of 1 extra gasket below. Nd if its nt put there what will be the consequences?

    The compression ratio will be very high if you do not use two gaskets. You piston may be forced for an abnormal operation due to the hig compression. Just assume a 190CC occupying the same space as the 180CC.

    If you enlarge the Head ports appropriately as advised by Joel then there is no need for two gaskets.

    You can use one single gasket as like the stock, or get the porting a bit more precise and even avoid a gasket, going traditional using Yamaha Bond adhesive to seal compression.
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    • #9032
      @prateek2210- the timing chain is for rs 450 check the google document of rtr 180 spare parts i have updated the details there.

      @abhi- joel didnt explain much , he said just to do so.

      @harishk- thnxx bro tht clarified my doubt totally, got every thing done today , didnt fiddle with the gaskets as the setup now is 2 under the bore and 1 above it. The tapets were very tight got them set to stock values given by joel, tht solved the prob. The compression is now 190 psi. But the only weird thing now is tht there is a whistle like sound when i ride at low rpms in low gears, the same which comes im splendors and unicorns
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      • #9033
        plz help me all banglorians specially rak2410..i have a few queries regarding the tps aka throttle switch. As im not able to get it here for the last 2 months, im thinkin of getin it frm bangy itself. I just want to knw
        1. Part no of tps
        2.which showroom is it available in...??
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        • #9034
          Originally posted by UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA View Post
          plz help me all banglorians specially rak2410..i have a few queries regarding the tps aka throttle switch. As im not able to get it here for the last 2 months, im thinkin of getin it frm bangy itself. I just want to knw
          1. Part no of tps
          2.which showroom is it available in...??

          1.Don't know the parts no
          2.Try it in Bridgestone TVS in Rajajinagar or if you want I will go to SC and check it out( My office is in Rajajinagar only).and let you know the availability.post your mob.No as message to my profile.

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          • #9035
            @Utkarsh : Thanks a lot buddy. I somehow missed that sheet. Saved it for future refernce
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            • #9036
              Originally posted by UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA View Post
              plz help me all banglorians specially rak2410..i have a few queries regarding the tps aka throttle switch. As im not able to get it here for the last 2 months, im thinkin of getin it frm bangy itself. I just want to knw
              1. Part no of tps
              2.which showroom is it available in...??
              Originally posted by sree_unicorn View Post
              1.Don't know the parts no
              2.Try it in Bridgestone TVS in Rajajinagar or if you want I will go to SC and check it out( My office is in Rajajinagar only).and let you know the availability.post your mob.No as message to my profile.
              Part number of Throttle Switch Assembly is M7160210.

              I don't know why most are changing the TPS. It is just a switch which should not go kaput as much as we see in the forum. The TPS helps to switch between just two ignition mapping for RTRs. A switch like this going bad is really remote. However, note that the TPS in RTRs needs adjustment. In my opinion, this is what the problem is with most of the hiccup issues reported here.

              If the ignition mapping is switched to advanced mode too early, hiccups can occur at low RPMs - the throttle will not be open enough to allow enough fuel for the advanced ignition mode. Make sure the TPS and throttle plate are in sync. This should probably resolve the hiccup (jerking) issue.
              Last edited by Zippo; 11-17-2011, 02:32 PM. Reason: Added info.

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              • #9037
                Originally posted by Zippo View Post
                Part number of Throttle Switch Assembly is M7160210.

                I don't know why most are changing the TPS. It is just a switch which should not go kaput as much as we see in the forum. The TPS helps to switch between just two ignition mapping for RTRs. A switch like this going bad is really remote. However, note that the TPS in RTRs needs adjustment. In my opinion, this is what the problem is with most of the hiccup issues reported here.

                If the ignition mapping is switched to advanced mode too early, hiccups can occur at low RPMs - the throttle will not be open enough to allow enough fuel for the advanced ignition mode. Make sure the TPS and throttle plate are in sync. This should probably resolve the hiccup (jerking) issue.
                Thnxx my main problem is not hiccups , the problem is tht on pressing the clutch the rpm gets stuck to 3 sometimes 4 and comes down to 1.4 really slowly. On my bike people have cleaned , tuned the carburettor N no of times but still no good. I had taken the bike to svc today. They did a CO test and the reading was 9.xx , even the tvs engineer from the office was here but could not do any good and after long time of applying their brains they said "CO bahut zyaada hai , Theek nai ho sakta"

                now can anyone tell me what this problem is all about..??
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                • #9038
                  Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post
                  Guys i lost my fuel pipe(the grey color one) ring....i dunno what to call that thing....its a small ring like circle which prevents the easy removal of the fuel pipe..what do i do??

                  what do i do guys?????

                  and how do i calculate fuel consumption by reserve method??

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                  • #9039
                    Originally posted by UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA View Post
                    plz help me all banglorians specially rak2410..i have a few queries regarding the tps aka throttle switch. As im not able to get it here for the last 2 months, im thinkin of getin it frm bangy itself. I just want to knw
                    1. Part no of tps
                    2.which showroom is it available in...??
                    Go to Bridgestone TVS in Rajkumar road,Bangalore. Its definitely Available there.

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                    • #9040
                      Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post
                      what do i do guys?????

                      and how do i calculate fuel consumption by reserve method??
                      About that ring thing, it may be called a 'Coupler' , not sure though!

                      Fill your tank little above reserve first.. then when it reaches reserve reset one of the trip meters. Then go and fill exactly 1 litre and again when it reaches reserve note down that trip meter which u had reset.. that will give a very close figure...! try it out few times to calculate the average!
                      Last edited by rak2410; 11-17-2011, 10:18 PM.

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                      • #9041
                        Originally posted by UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA View Post
                        Thnxx my main problem is not hiccups , the problem is tht on pressing the clutch the rpm gets stuck to 3 sometimes 4 and comes down to 1.4 really slowly. On my bike people have cleaned , tuned the carburettor N no of times but still no good. I had taken the bike to svc today. They did a CO test and the reading was 9.xx , even the tvs engineer from the office was here but could not do any good and after long time of applying their brains they said "CO bahut zyaada hai , Theek nai ho sakta"

                        now can anyone tell me what this problem is all about..??


                        about the rpm thing, even i had this problem sometime back.
                        tried everything from air filter cleaning, carb cleaning and adjustment, tappet adjustment,accelerator cable and what not! the culprit was actually faulty choke cable which was jammed and always made the mixture rich thus causing the rpm issue!!
                        btw mine was stock bike so there wasn't any compression issue! dunno if that causes the rpm to vary !
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                        • #9042
                          Originally posted by sid137 View Post
                          about the rpm thing, even i had this problem sometime back.
                          tried everything from air filter cleaning, carb cleaning and adjustment, tappet adjustment,accelerator cable and what not! the culprit was actually faulty choke cable which was jammed and always made the mixture rich thus causing the rpm issue!!
                          btw mine was stock bike so there wasn't any compression issue! dunno if that causes the rpm to vary !

                          thnx brother will change that today lets see if the problem gets solved.
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                          • #9043
                            Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post
                            what do i do guys?????
                            Just ask them a hose clip for the petrol pipe,SIMPLE!

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                            • #9044
                              Finally solved the problem, changing the choke cable also didnt help. The mechanic disconnected the wire of the TPS which is connected to the main wire along tci. The problem got resolved. I just wanted to knw tht will removing of this red wire create any problems on the long run...??
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                              • #9045
                                Originally posted by UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA View Post
                                Finally solved the problem, changing the choke cable also didnt help. The mechanic disconnected the wire of the TPS which is connected to the main wire along tci. The problem got resolved. I just wanted to knw tht will removing of this red wire create any problems on the long run...??
                                Is it a wire or socket which the Mech disconnected?
                                When I've experienced lag during 2.5K to 4.0K rpm, one of the Mech's at the SVC suggested to unplug the TPS. Yes, I've tried it. The lag would disappear, BUT, the initial engine response was missing. And the throaty roar from the exhaust, when throttle opened quickly especially at mid rpm, was not there as well. It's just the same tone. Also, felt the engine was not smooth post 6K rpm. Anyways, i didn't ride it like that with the TPS unplugged.

                                For me, replacing the TPS did the job. But, one should consider Zippo's suggestion as well. Refer his last post.

                                I know hiccups ain't the main problem of your ride. Just shared my experience while riding with the TPS unplugged

                                P.S. Not sure about this, but i feel the engine is idling pretty nice too after replacing the TPS. Previously, it used to get stuck at say 2.0K rpm while waiting at signal stops etc.,
                                Last edited by Rtrlover83; 11-18-2011, 10:04 PM. Reason: to add some more info
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