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**Garry_Menace** · 09-19-2011, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Sorry to burst the bubble but that is the SYM T2, 250 cc variant of the "SYM Wolf SB 125 cc" (which is nothing but the production version of the infamous "SYM Cevalo 125" concept).

Google for it.. you'll get the images/details.

Exactly!! Its SYM T2 250 only. Refer this

**julianpaul** · 09-20-2011, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

Hey guy's

I know good quality unleaded fuel from a reputed pump is best for our rides. But among BP Speed (been using this brand for some time) and IOC Xtra Premium, which one would you guy's vouch for our bike or bike's in general?

I'am inclined to use Speed/Xtra Premium as these fuels contain cleansers that might be of some help.

IOC because it's 91 octane vs speed's 87 (unless you're using speed 93 or 97).

**Abhii46** · 09-20-2011, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

Exactly!! Its SYM T2 250 only. Refer this

My bad

. I had read only the first post and not the rest of it.

**saipranav** · 09-20-2011, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

IOC because it's 91 octane vs speed's 87 (unless you're using speed 93 or 97).

Hey i'm not sure if there is anything like speed 87... because back in bharat stage III we had 89 octane as standard now we have 91 octane as standard so everyone must be using 91 octane as normal unleaded petrol... and i think one government company, BP has petrol above 91 octane with the name speed 93/97... i dont think anyone sells petrol below 91 octane now...
and i guess shell super unleaded is 93 octane... can someone please confirm this?

Can someone tell me what do tci and idi stand for... and how do i know if my tci,idi or coils are damaged... is there any way i can know without going to a mech ... a simple way to check?

**Garry_Menace** · 09-20-2011, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post

My bad

. I had read only the first post and not the rest of it.

Oh, so you posted it from there itself

. Nevermind, it happens

**gixxer_junkie_m** · 09-20-2011, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by saipranav View Post

Can someone tell me what do tci and idi stand for... and how do i know if my tci,idi or coils are damaged... is there any way i can know without going to a mech ... a simple way to check?

TCI= Transistor controlled ignition.
IDI= Inductive discharge ignition.

The ignition is of IDI type and it's controlled by TCI.It's the green box.Then there will be the ignition coil.

If there's a problem with these then there will be "missing" in revs.It will feel like the bike is being switched off and coming back to life.
The same thing will be felt if the carb setting is wrong(too rich).

**Rtrlover83** · 09-20-2011, 07:36 AM

@julianpaul, @saipranav

Thanks a lot buddies for your inputs

**saipranav** · 09-20-2011, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post

TCI= Transistor controlled ignition.
IDI= Inductive discharge ignition.

The ignition is of IDI type and it's controlled by TCI.It's the green box.Then there will be the ignition coil.

If there's a problem with these then there will be "missing" in revs.It will feel like the bike is being switched off and coming back to life.
The same thing will be felt if the carb setting is wrong(too rich).

Yesterday my mechanic cleaned the spark plug completely after which i went for a ride of about 5 kilometers... ripped the bike to check is there is any problem and the problem was still there, today morning i took a pic of my spark plug. Can someone tell me if this is rich or lean... i guess its normal...

Sorry for bad picture quality...

Took 3 pics...

http://i53.tinypic.com/15i3uie.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/10zxz84.jpg

**New guy** · 09-20-2011, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by saipranav View Post

Yesterday my mechanic cleaned the spark plug completely after which i went for a ride of about 5 kilometers... ripped the bike to check is there is any problem and the problem was still there, today morning i took a pic of my spark plug. Can someone tell me if this is rich or lean... i guess its normal...

Sorry for bad picture quality...

Took 3 pics...

http://i53.tinypic.com/15i3uie.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/10zxz84.jpg

Cant see the pic properly but if the tip is white its lean and if black its rich. Optimum colour should be golden/brown.

**New guy** · 09-20-2011, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Drifty View Post

Contact Nanotechnology(xbhp member) from Mumbai.He may help you.

Thanks a lot!

**rajeshmushtang** · 09-20-2011, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

IOC because it's 91 octane vs speed's 87 (unless you're using speed 93 or 97).

watz the use of useing 97 octane petrol in our byks....

**Abhii46** · 09-20-2011, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by rajeshmushtang View Post

watz the use of useing 97 octane petrol in our byks....

With the current rise in petrol prices you wouldn't even like to use petrol after some days.

**rajeshmushtang** · 09-20-2011, 01:24 PM

hey guys do they (svc) change the exaust under warrenty 8months n 11k km old
mine got fully rusted!!!

**julianpaul** · 09-20-2011, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by saipranav View Post

Hey i'm not sure if there is anything like speed 87... because back in bharat stage III we had 89 octane as standard now we have 91 octane as standard so everyone must be using 91 octane as normal unleaded petrol... and i think one government company, BP has petrol above 91 octane with the name speed 93/97... i dont think anyone sells petrol below 91 octane now...
and i guess shell super unleaded is 93 octane... can someone please confirm this?

I'm pretty sure that regular speed used to be 87 (might have been 88 or 89, kinda confused with all the numbers) octane back when it came out, which is why IOC had the advantage since it was 91. Now i'm not sure what the status is on speed, seems 93 isn't available any more, which makes sense if regular speed is 91 itself.

Originally posted by rajeshmushtang View Post

watz the use of useing 97 octane petrol in our byks....

who said we should use 97 in our bikes?

Originally posted by rajeshmushtang View Post

hey guys do they (svc) change the exaust under warrenty 8months n 11k km old
mine got fully rusted!!!

I got my fi silencer changed in warranty for excessive rusting, the entire bend pipe was rusted. They didn't accept easily and i had to contact a senior official for it. he did mention that he's doing it as a favour for me or whatever BS and that the new one would also rust in 6 months! and bingo, it's about as bad as the old one now. Plus the new one is probably from a cheaper oem because the welding is really crap compared to my old one. so if it's only the bend pipe that's rusted, no point bothering. i'm quite fed up with tvs parts quality now.

Edit: more on petrol, IOC actually:

from: http://www.iocl.com/Products/Gasoline.aspx

BS II and BS III http://www.iocl.com/Products/GasolineSpecifications.pdf

BS IV http://www.iocl.com/Products/MS_BS_I...0_Current_.pdf

Can someone make sense of this, i don't really have the time right now.

**rajeshmushtang** · 09-20-2011, 09:13 PM

hey mine got fully rusted ive just came from tvs SERVICE for my bike's big big service

and an mail to the head will surely will work i ve just mailed my inconvenience to them and replay came soon very soon

and guys from MUMBAI if u have any kinda problems with SVC then contact this guy he is chief of service dept in MUMBAI

huzaifa
9922990151

hope my MENACE will be back on road

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