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**Adarsh_Bk** · 11-08-2013, 01:12 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by Abishek94 View Post

and for the rear tyre, what difference does a 120 section make with regard to fuel economy and road grip? how has ur experience been?

120 size hardly makes any difference in fuel economy. I have a 120/80-17 Zapper Vyde and it has good grip in almost all road conditions. Now I am considering dual purpose tyres like CEAT vertigo (120-80-17) as I have started enjoying off roading too ;D

Originally posted by Abishek94 View Post

EDIT: question for everyone : i have been riding with tappet noise for the past 1000 odd km. I have run 3k on the odo. during second service i told them to adjust it but they did not do it. my local mech told me that upto 5000km the svc doesnt touch the engine parts as it has to set, hence the loose tappets were not adjusted etc. now i have the required tools for a DIY on tappet adjustment so should i do it now or should i run with tappet noise till i reach 5k on the odo??

I think the local mech was right, the tappet adjustment interval is 5k kms so the SVC wont bother to touch it

Are you really sure it is not the normal tappet noise? You can try DIY, if you are confident enough (Hope you have seen the DIY thread here in xbhp, its very informative), but it will still take lots of time. I did it twice myself and was really tired and frustrated both times in the end, though I successfully managed to do it

**believeme** · 11-08-2013, 01:24 PM

Re: TVS apache 180 problem

Originally posted by ranju567 View Post

Adjust the tappet first and thn tune the carb,,i should recomnd it to b dne by the SVC person orelse some good machnic buddy,,dnt do it by urself.

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Will find a guy in svc who knows much, and get it done by him....
also what are the symptoms of badly tuned carb.... ?
i read somewhere it was white smoke from exhaust, carbon deposits on exhaust, is it correct ? and any other symptoms ??

Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

I think I faced similar issue like this.

For me, the bike would be fine for around 5 mins after starting (cold engine) and then the sound would change as if it has K&N air filter

And the bike would rattle more than usual. I dont know how the bike sounds with K&N, but mine sounds heavier than stock and less refined.

The culprit is the engine foundation bolts being loose. Just get it tightened and I am sure this issue will be solved.

I wonder how did the SVC guys say it was fine!!

Which bolts exactly..? pics would be really helpful

This is most probably due to dirty air filter. Just see if it has become black. You can try to clean it yourself (There is a DIY thread in xbhp, please search

) or you can get a new air filter which should cost around 120.

Wow pleased to hear that, i am not the only one facing this issue and that its isnt a major issue

. Also i gave a look at the DIY threads and to be frank, i am not messing with anything, let the svc guy handle it xD.
thanks adarsh really helpfull, and thx for the price quote too *thumbs up* .

Dil ko thandak ponhachi

**Adarsh_Bk** · 11-08-2013, 01:37 PM

Re: TVS apache 180 problem

Originally posted by believeme View Post

Wow pleased to hear that, i am not the only one facing this issue and that its isnt a major issue

. Also i gave a look at the DIY threads and to be frank, i am not messing with anything, let the svc guy handle it xD.
thanks adarsh really helpfull, and thx for the price quote too *thumbs up* .

Dil ko thandak ponhachi

Glad to be of help buddy!

SVC ppl will know what engine foundation bolts are.. anyways, you can find the pics in this post http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post905550 And yes, in my case, it was sounding lot less refined.. mainly when you let go of throttle and rpm is around 4k.

And you mentioned that only rpm meter fluctuates between 6k-7k, so does it mean the bike was smoothly going ahead at same speed & there were no jerks?? (Then it is the tachometer needle issue

)

**prateek2210** · 11-08-2013, 01:41 PM

Re: TVS apache 180 problem

Originally posted by ranju567 View Post

Adjust the tappet first and thn tune the carb,,i should recomnd it to b dne by the SVC person orelse some good machnic buddy,,dnt do it by urself.

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Refrain from using sms language.

Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

This is most probably due to dirty air filter. Just see if it has become black. You can try to clean it yourself (There is a DIY thread in xbhp, please search

) or you can get a new air filter which should cost around 120.

Cleaning the filter is one of the easiest DIY that I did, might go for GS150's filter now.

Originally posted by believeme View Post

i read somewhere it was white smoke from exhaust, carbon deposits on exhaust, is it correct ? and any other symptoms ??

If I am not wrong :
Black Smoke : Carb Issue
White Smoke : Piston / Valve issue

Please check whether you are running lean or rich, check the color of the tip of your spark plug.

**Adarsh_Bk** · 11-08-2013, 01:49 PM

Re: TVS apache 180 problem

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

Cleaning the filter is one of the easiest DIY that I did, might go for GS150's filter now.

Nooooooo! Dont go for it!

I forgot to mention my experiences with it.. here goes..

I had tried the GS150R's air filter since it was a direct fit. All was fine in city, sub 6k rpm riding... The bike would sound slightly different.
I had a solo trip planned that time and went ahead with this filter the next day.. Big mistake!

At highways, the bike wasnt crossing 7k rpm! I couldnt even reach 100kmph! I was doubting something else was wrong in my bike and my mech suggested me to check the air filter. The GS filter comes with a plastic flap like thing and after removing this, it would go upto 120 with lots of vibes.. riding at lower speeds were fine though.. Had to do my entire trip with that filter and changed to stock the moment I came home..

So yes, nothing beats a stock air filter!

**prateek2210** · 11-08-2013, 02:00 PM

Re: TVS apache 180 problem

Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

Nooooooo! Dont go for it!

GS150's Air Filter?? What is that , never heard of it. Who says I am changing

**aditya_iyer** · 11-08-2013, 02:30 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

i am curious regarding k&n's filter effect on performance or is it just cosmetic though i don't have any intention to use it

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**believeme** · 11-08-2013, 02:31 PM

Re: TVS apache 180 problem

Originally posted by Adarsh_Bk View Post

Glad to be of help buddy!

SVC ppl will know what engine foundation bolts are.. anyways, you can find the pics in this post http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post905550 And yes, in my case, it was sounding lot less refined.. mainly when you let go of throttle and rpm is around 4k.

And you mentioned that only rpm meter fluctuates between 6k-7k, so does it mean the bike was smoothly going ahead at same speed & there were no jerks?? (Then it is the tachometer needle issue

)

ofcourse there were jerks

**prateek2210** · 11-08-2013, 02:33 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by aditya_iyer View Post

i am curious regarding k&n's filter effect on performance or is it just cosmetic though i don't have any intention to use it

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After Market Filter = R.I.P Bike engine

**believeme** · 11-08-2013, 02:36 PM

Re: TVS apache 180 problem

Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post

Cleaning the filter is one of the easiest DIY that I did, might go for GS150's filter now.

If I am not wrong :
Black Smoke : Carb Issue
White Smoke : Piston / Valve issue

Please check whether you are running lean or rich, check the color of the tip of your spark plug.

Might eventually change the air filter.
So the bike doesnt pops any coloured smoke from exhaust. Will check the spark plug and update later !

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**ranju567** · 11-11-2013, 11:42 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Hey guys im having a cold start problem in my RTR160,,,is it beacuse i change my oil grade from 20w40 to 15w40? I have done with castrol power1 this time...please let me know
Thank you

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**vivekgautams** · 11-12-2013, 12:56 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by ranju567 View Post

Hey guys im having a cold start problem in my RTR160,,,is it beacuse i change my oil grade from 20w40 to 15w40? I have done with castrol power1 this time...please let me know
Thank you

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The recommended oil grade is 10W30,so,you better stick to the "10" & vary the "30", if more lubrication is required.. As you use(ed) "15"&"20" the viscosity during cold start is very high.. Bring back the 15/20 to 10 & you won't face any starting issues..
Give Shell Advance series a shot..

Go throught the Engine oil thread to gain more knowledge..

Cheers..!!

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**ranju567** · 11-12-2013, 07:17 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Thanks vivek but someone here told me that recomended viscosity for apache is 20w40, is it 10w or 20 w ?

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**susheelkumar** · 11-12-2013, 12:46 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 180

Originally posted by ranju567 View Post

Thanks vivek but someone here told me that recomended viscosity for apache is 20w40, is it 10w or 20 w ?

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If xWy is the series, it always good to have lesser x value for colder conditions & higher y value for hot conditions.
So if you reduce your 15Wy to 10Wy series it will help during cold start.
Go for Shell Advance AX7 10w30 semi-synthetic oil if you have crossed around 7000+ km in your odo.

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